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Re: [Tor-censorship-events] [IMPORTANT] How sad would you be if we shut down this mailing list?
by Karsten Loesing 20 Aug '15

20 Aug '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Moving this thread back to the list.] On 16/08/15 12:50, l.m wrote: > So how does one actually fix it. All I've read here is that there > may be a new version, and thanks for anyone who makes an effort. > Who makes an effort? How to make an effort. It should be obvious > why the list should stay. It makes censorship visible which then > makes analysis easier. > > If you're not going to provide method that people can contribute to > a fix you might as well get rid of it then. I could imagine two scenarios here: - Somebody writes a better censorship detector on their own which produces fewer false positives than the one we currently have [0], and at some point we start running that on a Tor host and possibly have it send notifications to this list. - The Tor Measurement Team sketches out requirements and possibly a design for a future censorship detector and finds somebody to work on it with the goal to run it on a Tor host and possibly send notifications to this list. The planning part here may take another four to six weeks [1], and it's yet uncertain whether this project will be higher priority than all the other things that need doing. Karsten [0] https://research.torproject.org/techreports/detector-2011-09-09.pdf [1] https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/measurement-roadmap.pdf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV0G+IAAoJEJD5dJfVqbCr6GEH/2hqv0LUsiM8YicQHWHrEVuQ qb/pKl+tHexW0CcqdzPfXG8AmZsnFKof9ADewoNUX04kSXeizt6PyuvgSOP8/KhS YwIw2oHg3AFB5sfi+xLFuWB8WSmEr38K8ctJx8Vmjt2s+pDjiuLRkvxFU5Iemaa6 4Qezgk43zxK8r5O+Z2lvxguOkQfalqot0eN695glQ5iNDmynrsOAGiwJrv+QcCtB V3GWeflbYe19pp3XDDxIweIksaz4AW4E/C7E/IMdM3MPrL2R5gfsekwqLqkmzJ5e jbUok4mmUqho3XgAztgXpdtaJoHsrC8EizKTum8hCLldCe8GrhAbf7MeKvsUFwg= =bUUH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[IMPORTANT] How sad would you be if we shut down this mailing list?
by Karsten Loesing 13 Aug '15

13 Aug '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear person who is interested in Tor censorship events, how sad would you be if we shut down the tor-censorship-events@ mailing list? I'm asking, because I'm about to move the Metrics website to a new host, and I'd want to leave behind any unused parts while doing so. This list very much looks like the perfect candidate for not being moved. Here's why: - All mails sent to this list in August covered July 30, and yet nobody noticed. - A couple months back I changed how userstats are updated from daily to every three days, but I didn't adapt the script sending out these mails, which still only covers a single day, and yet nobody noticed. - The links contained in these emails have been broken since November 2014, and yet nobody noticed. Note that I understand the desire to be informed about automatically detected censorship of the Tor network. But this script and mailing list is not what we want, it just leaves us under the impression that we have a somewhat working solution. We don't. And maybe that even prevents people from building something better. Here's my plan: - If I hear a convincing reason why we should keep this mailing list in the next 72 hours (that would be Wednesday, August 12, 12:00 UTC), I'll move it to the new host and will even try to fix the bugs above. - If I don't hear such a reason, I'll kill the list with fire. Thoughts? (Just respond to this list, and I'll manually approve your posting, despite this list not being a discussion list.) All the best, Karsten -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVx0DBAAoJEJD5dJfVqbCr43UH/jcytvnuNY4x6+iFSV7ggq3x 3SBB9dqY/ftkPOVrQ+oOsuweM5UVOfr2Brne0o2cjVSz0blsIYGk/iW60/J7jdWJ P1qZlh1qhpmZ+CjccTPT1hJJJhfo5HfWbcvHvYev4YV65/pzkdxAN9FxDJmkegFS +fnvUWY/hqxOCHBMFoAeOKtFRp0EX1LLpumi0HDP3PizhadmchTf18EgXC29SF1a v0XJhyChLNz8Q5MmtzyKovR8uZ3xwv5RMbmg6CZaU84z7Jh9moO8cDDgL0fRUheS 3KXQ9e1S7Lv93XM0nFj3jOEXFSrXiHyhPWNkDMtPofqXOI6C+Q3ih5o7QY5ApGs= =f2AD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 12 Aug '15

12 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-08-09 ======================= We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Nauru (1 upscores, 13 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 11 Aug '15

11 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-08-09 ======================= We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Nauru (1 upscores, 13 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 07 Aug '15

07 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-07-30 ======================= We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Republic of Moldova (users: 8008, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in South Africa (users: 6877, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Northern Mariana Islands (users: 68, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in China (1 upscores, 3131 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Bangladesh (1 upscores, 2218 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 06 Aug '15

06 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-07-30 ======================= We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Republic of Moldova (users: 8008, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in South Africa (users: 6877, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Northern Mariana Islands (users: 68, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in China (1 upscores, 3131 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Bangladesh (1 upscores, 2218 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 05 Aug '15

05 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-07-30 ======================= We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Republic of Moldova (users: 8008, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in South Africa (users: 6877, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Northern Mariana Islands (users: 68, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in China (1 upscores, 3131 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Bangladesh (1 upscores, 2218 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-07-30 ======================= We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Republic of Moldova (users: 8008, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in South Africa (users: 6877, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Northern Mariana Islands (users: 68, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in China (1 upscores, 3131 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Bangladesh (1 upscores, 2218 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 03 Aug '15

03 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-07-30 ======================= We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Republic of Moldova (users: 8008, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in South Africa (users: 6877, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Northern Mariana Islands (users: 68, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in China (1 upscores, 3131 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Bangladesh (1 upscores, 2218 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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Possible censorship events
by metrics＠yatei.torproject.org 02 Aug '15

02 Aug '15

======================= Automatic Censorship Report for 2015-07-30 ======================= We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Republic of Moldova (users: 8008, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in South Africa (users: 6877, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected 1 potential censorship events in the Northern Mariana Islands (users: 68, upscores: 0): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in China (1 upscores, 3131 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta… We detected an unusual spike of Tor users in Bangladesh (1 upscores, 2218 users): https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&sta…

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