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estimating traffic/bandwidth needed to run a Tor node
by Razvan Dragomirescu 24 May '16

24 May '16

Hello everyone, I'm working on an Internet of Things project and Tor will be a part of it (Hidden Services to be more precise). The nodes however may be battery powered or have slow (or metered) Internet connectivity, so I'm trying to estimate the traffic patterns for a fully functional Tor node. Has this been measured at all? I mean how much traffic should I expect per hour/day/month whatever in order to maintain a good "Tor citizen" node, serving a very low traffic hidden service? I do remember reading something about it needing 4MB per day or something like that, but I can't seem to find that link or page anywhere now... :(. Any hints on where to find this type of info (or maybe how to measure it myself) would be appreciated. Thank you, Razvan -- Razvan Dragomirescu Chief Technology Officer Cayenne Graphics SRL

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Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224
by str4d 22 May '16

22 May '16

On 20/05/16 18:23, grarpamp wrote: > On 4/30/16, str4d <str4d(a)i2pmail.org> wrote: >> On 27/04/16 22:31, grarpamp wrote: >>> I think there are a nontrivial number of users interested in, and >>> using, non-strictly-TCP transport over an IPv6 tunnel interface. >>> For example, look at users of CJDNS... >>> >>> For which we should try to continue a way, in v2, to do that over >>> anonymous overlay network Tor / I2P. >>> >> >> There is already some work on doing this in I2P: >> >> https://github.com/majestrate/i2p-tools/tree/master/i2tun >> https://github.com/majestrate/i2p-tools/tree/master/pyi2tun >> >> I2P also natively supports non-TCP protocols if that helps (only >> datagrams implemented thus far). > > You mean just UDP? How would you move ICMP, GRE, raw IP/packets? > Do you have to implement each one? I mean that I2P has a numbered protocol system (like IP protocol numbers). Currently we only have three protocols defined: streaming (our TCP-like protocol), repliable datagrams (our UDP-like protocol) and non-repliable/raw datagrams (c/f raw sockets). Our higher-level APIs map clearnet TCP data onto streaming, and clearnet UDP data onto repliable datagrams. > That seems more work > than implementing a generic data conduit, or an IPv6 conduit (as > a more specific, host stack oriented, interoperable form). > Though yes UDP would be the most useful for people after TCP. It is relatively easy to use repliable or raw datagrams as a conduit for any other protocol. That's how i2tun is implemented. str4d

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Memory usage of Tor daemon
by Rob van der Hoeven 21 May '16

21 May '16

Hi, I'm running Tor on a router and was wondering why the Tor daemon uses so much memory. Did a pmap: pmap `pidof tor` And got the following result: 1703: /usr/sbin/tor --PidFile /var/run/tor.pid 00400000 1024K r-x-- /usr/sbin/tor 0050f000 4K r---- /usr/sbin/tor 00510000 20K rw--- /usr/sbin/tor 00515000 12K rwx-- [ anon ] 00ae9000 36K rwx-- [ anon ] 00af2000 17288K rwx-- [ anon ] 7713a000 7140K r---- /tmp/lib/tor/cached-microdescs 77833000 516K rw--- [ anon ] 778f5000 348K r-x-- /lib/libuClibc-0.9.33.2.so 7794c000 60K ----- [ anon ] 7795b000 4K r---- /lib/libuClibc-0.9.33.2.so 7795c000 4K rw--- /lib/libuClibc-0.9.33.2.so 7795d000 20K rw--- [ anon ] 77962000 80K r-x-- /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 77976000 60K ----- [ anon ] 77985000 4K rw--- /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 77986000 12K r-x-- /lib/libdl-0.9.33.2.so 77989000 60K ----- [ anon ] 77998000 4K r---- /lib/libdl-0.9.33.2.so 77999000 4K rw--- /lib/libdl-0.9.33.2.so 7799a000 76K r-x-- /lib/libpthread-0.9.33.2.so 779ad000 60K ----- [ anon ] 779bc000 4K r---- /lib/libpthread-0.9.33.2.so 779bd000 4K rw--- /lib/libpthread-0.9.33.2.so 779be000 8K rw--- [ anon ] 779c0000 1300K r-x-- /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 77b05000 64K ----- [ anon ] 77b15000 72K rw--- /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 77b27000 4K rw--- [ anon ] 77b28000 292K r-x-- /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 77b71000 60K ----- [ anon ] 77b80000 20K rw--- /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 77b85000 176K r-x-- /usr/lib/libevent-2.0.so.5.1.9 77bb1000 64K ----- [ anon ] 77bc1000 4K rw--- /usr/lib/libevent-2.0.so.5.1.9 77bc2000 88K r-x-- /lib/libm-0.9.33.2.so 77bd8000 60K ----- [ anon ] 77be7000 4K rw--- /lib/libm-0.9.33.2.so 77be8000 56K r-x-- /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.8 77bf6000 60K ----- [ anon ] 77c05000 4K rw--- /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.8 77c06000 28K r-x-- /lib/ld-uClibc-0.9.33.2.so 77c1a000 8K rw--- [ anon ] 77c1c000 4K r---- /lib/ld-uClibc-0.9.33.2.so 77c1d000 4K rw--- /lib/ld-uClibc-0.9.33.2.so 7f9a0000 132K rw--- [ stack ] 7fff7000 4K r-x-- [ anon ] total 29360K As you can see there is a large 17288K block which turns out to be a heap (of course). When I dumped the block and looked inside I found it was full of router data. Looks like it is mostly an in-memory database of the router list. This worries me. If in the future the router list grows, my router (and many other routers running Tor) can run out of memory. For me, it looks a little bit strange to have an in-memory database of the router list. Is there a reason for having this data in memory? And, can something be done about it? Rob. https://hoevenstein.nl

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[GSoC] Tails Server - status report 2
by segfault 20 May '16

20 May '16

Hi everyone, this is the second status report on the Tails Server GSoC project. In the last two weeks I worked on these things: * Discussing the design of the GUI on the Tails-UX mailing list. I sent the last prototype of the GUI two weeks ago and we have been discussing it since. * Write a specification proposal for the service API [1] * Continue implementation of the GUI. I restructured the project and implemented some more features like monitoring the service's status via systemd manager. Next I plan to get a fully functional prototype of the GUI, to be able to conduct first user tests. This also requires some more features of the CLI. I also plan to discuss the service specification. Cheers! [1] https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/tails_server/#index4h1

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Work in tor messenger
by AKASH DAS 18 May '16

18 May '16

Sir, I want to work in tor messenger and want to know what all I have to do to get in the flow of the work. Any help would be very helpful. Regards, Akash Das IIIT-Sricity

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Re: [tor-dev] tor-dev Digest, Vol 64, Issue 26
by AKASH DAS 17 May '16

17 May '16

hello all, I am an aspirant for gsoc 2017 studying cse in IIIT-Sricity and i want to contribute to this community..can i get some help to start/cope up with the work that is going on.. Regards, Akash Das IIIT-Sricity On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:30 PM, <tor-dev-request(a)lists.torproject.org> wrote: > Send tor-dev mailing list submissions to > tor-dev(a)lists.torproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tor-dev-request(a)lists.torproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tor-dev-owner(a)lists.torproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tor-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: onionoo.tpo stuck at 2016-05-13 12:00 (Karsten Loesing) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 10:57:45 +0200 > From: Karsten Loesing <karsten(a)torproject.org> > To: nusenu <nusenu(a)openmailbox.org> > Cc: "tor-dev(a)lists.torproject.org" <tor-dev(a)lists.torproject.org> > Subject: Re: [tor-dev] onionoo.tpo stuck at 2016-05-13 12:00 > Message-ID: <573ADD09.1020104(a)torproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 14/05/16 12:00, nusenu wrote: > > Hi Karsten, > > Hi Nusenu, > > > I was surprised that ornetradar did not send a single email for > > yesterday's new relays. > > > > After looking into it, it turned out it is an onionoo problem. > > > > "relays_published":"2016-05-13 12:00:00" > > > > https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?limit=4 > > It looks like the Onionoo host has some serious load problems (again). > It's at "relays_published":"2016-05-16 19:00:00" now, so it didn't > stop entirely, but it's still behind. I just kicked it, maybe it'll > catch up in the next few hours. > > As a short-term fix, feel free to switch to the Onionoo mirror: > > https://onionoo.thecthulhu.com/summary?limit=0 > > As a medium-term fix, extend your client to fetch both headers > (/summary?limit=0) and get the full details from the host with more > recent "relays_published" line. > > As a long-term fix we should fix most/all inconsistencies between > Onionoo instances (different encodings and other minor problems) and > add a hostname that round-robins requests to all available mirrors. > > > regards, nusenu > > Thanks for letting me know! > > All the best, > Karsten > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXOt0JAAoJEC3ESO/4X7XBLqIH/RYSZrlcKE3+Z9tx0dvdeYRN > OTvwX632AGnfn8Ej2x9mGzf12Qkv3ED6Of979z5Zu02uCgTpOfgKy8MxxjnW0qDu > oWvAw1OeO0T+kw+tD5IbjKhqDX0dYgNzoiYS2W/SwkR+OmGEX1i5/nVZm/M7hJFo > VWikP0th4ajVhIRwTEILjuMK3DS6UruHYYX7gCrLdvYOC3R11h3AXOWBgbblT8wz > x0jPKmNiOSWSKdpPCD5DHQbHaifNWMTqvZEqURhDpSKpfqUDZ82i7b/rG5bXlYZM > KdjMUdF0e5NIxzKhg0rQkaJFAeSdgXhj++yqJdGfNXYgtu4QDccTCaKdQKb67gs= > =AmcN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > tor-dev mailing list > tor-dev(a)lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-dev > > > ------------------------------ > > End of tor-dev Digest, Vol 64, Issue 26 > *************************************** >

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Exitmap's control flow
by Philipp Winter 17 May '16

17 May '16

Hi Mridul, I'm copying tor-dev@, so other folks can chime in. On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:16:45AM +0530, Mridul Malpotra wrote: > a) Can you give me a short description about the program flow on how the > EventHandler class enables modules to be executed in exitmap? From my > initial pondering over the code, the circuits seem to be created in > succession. Then for each circuit creation, the listener catches the event > and starts by calling module_closure for invoking probe() function specific > to each module. However, I am having trouble understanding the role of the > command utility and IPC queue, for which I can see a separate queue having > the exit_fingerprint and socket pairs but fail to comprehend how it is > being used. Like you said, circuits are created sequentially in exitmap.py:419. We have configurable inter-circuit delay (exitmap.py:442) to reduce the load on the Tor network. Before exitmap asks Stem to create circuits, it registers event listeners for all circuit and stream events (exitmap.py:371). So whenever Tor tells Stem that a circuit or stream has changed, Stem notifies exitmap. We only care about a subset of all circuit and stream events, though. All the event code is in eventhandler.py. Once Tor managed to create a new circuit, it tells Stem, which tells exitmap. We catch this event in the new_circuit() function (eventhandler.py:254). Now here's where the command utility come in. Exitmap modules can do one of two things. They can either use pure Python to do their scan (e.g., by using httplib to fetch a web site), or use an external tool and parse its output (e.g., by running the openssl command line tool). For the first case, we offer the function run_python_over_tor() (command.py:37). It basically monkey-patches Python's socket.socket and makes it go over Tor. External programs are a little bit more tricky, and handled by the Command object (command.py:58). We will have multiple instances of our command line tool running at the same time, and they all connect to Tor's SOCKS port. Exitmap then maps a stream (e.g., whatever openssl does) to a circuit. But how does exitmap know which one among the, say, 10 streams belongs to a given circuit? If we don't attach them correctly, we can still detect MitM attacks, but we will get the alert for the wrong exit relay. To correctly attach streams to circuits, exitmap modules remember the source port of the command line tool and hand it back to exitmap (note that a module runs in a different process than exitmap) over the queue. We can get the source port by parsing the output of torsocks. However, the current version of torsocks does not implement this yet. > b) For calculating all possible exits and creating circuits, > ServerDescriptors is set to 0 probably to avoid conflict with changed > consensus data in the middle of module execution. Also, for each module run > in the same execution, the original consensus downloaded during > bootstrapping Tor is being used. In my use case however, which involves > long duration scanning, we will need to update the cached-consensus after > some iterations. One way I think this can be made possible is by having an > asynchronous task that updates the consensus after say, an hour or so. > Conflicts could be avoided mid-module execution by either stalling > execution if near the DA consensus time period or use the old > cached-consensus. I would like to ask you whether my conclusion is correct > and if so, what other ways can I explore? Yes, that sounds reasonable to me. In fact, we might as well periodically download server descriptors instead of consensuses, so we can also scan relays that don't have the Exit flag, but have an exit policy. The consensus does not necessarily tell us what a relay's exit policy looks like. For more information, see: <https://github.com/NullHypothesis/exitmap/issues/13> > c) In exitmap, we are taking in the analysis_dir parameter in the command > line and storing it in a global variable in util.py. However, nowhere is > the dump_to_file function [1] being called to report on bad exits. What was > the working that was thought of behind this function? Was exitmap to dump > the log entries in files inside the analysis_dir for every false negative? > Can't seem to find code where the function is called. dump_to_file() is only used in modules, and not by exitmap itself. You certainly have a point here; the way exitmap logs stuff is inconsistent because it's entirely module-driven. Seems worthy of some improvements. I hope that clears things up a bit. Let me know if you want me to elaborate on something. Cheers, Philipp

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Request for feedback/victims: cfc-0.0.2
by Yawning Angel 16 May '16

16 May '16

Hello, Thanks for the feedback so far. [ PEOPLE THAT HAVE BIG SCARY ADVERSARIES IN THEIR THREAT MODEL STILL SHOULD NOT USE THIS. ] New version with changes some that add functionality, some code of quality stuff, hence a version bump to 0.0.2, especially since it'll probably be a bit before I can focus on tackling the TODO items. Source: https://git.schwanenlied.me/yawning/cfc XPI: https://people.torproject.org/~yawning/volatile/cfc-20160327/ Major changes: * Properly deregister the HTTP event listeners on addon unload. * Toned down the snark when I rewrite the CloudFlare captcha page, since I wasn't very nice. * Additional quality of life/privacy improvements courtesy of Will Scott, both optional and enabled by default. * (QoL) Skip useless landing pages (github.com/twitter.com will be auto-redirected to the "search" pages). * (Privacy) Kill twitter's outbound link tracking (t.co URLs) by rewriting the DOM to go to the actual URL when possible. Since DOM changes made from content scripts are isolated from page scripts, this shouldn't substantially alter behavior. * (Code quality) Use a pref listener to handle preference changes. TODO: * Try to figure out a way to mitigate the ability for archive.is to track you. The IFRAME based approach might work here, needs more investigation. * Handle custom CloudFlare captcha pages (In general my philosophy is to minimize false positives, over avoiding false negatives). Looking at the regexes in dcf's post, disabling the title check may be all that's needed. * Handle CloudFlare 503 pages. * Get samples of other common blanket CDN based Tor blocking/major sites that block Tor, and implement bypass methods similar to how CloudFlare is handled. * Look into adding a "contact site owner" button as suggested by Jeff Burdges et al (Difficult?). * Support a user specified "always use archive.is for these sites" list. * UI improvements. * More Quality of Life/Privacy improvements (Come for the Street Signs, stay for the user scripts). * I will eventually get annoyed enough at being linked to mobile wikipedia that I will rewrite URLs to strip out the ".m.". * Test this on Fennec. * Maybe throw this up on addons.mozilla.org. Regards, -- Yawning Angel

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[GSoC] Tails Server - status report
by segfault 16 May '16

16 May '16

Hi everyone, this is the first status report on the Tails Server GSoC project. I officially began working on it on April 25th, although I already did some work in the weeks before. This is what I have done so far: * Updating the blueprint of the Tails Server [1] * Implementing two iterations of prototypes of the GUI. The most recent one is available on gitlab [2]. * Discussing the design of the GUI on the Tails-UX mailing list [3][4] * I began implementing the CLI, the current code (not ready for review yet) is also available on gitlab [2] Next I plan to continue the design of the GUI, after others commented on the new prototype. There are still some features missing which I will implement in time. In parallel I will continue implementing the CLI and discussing the design decisions. I did quite a lot during the last two weeks and I will have some other work to do in the next two weeks, so I expect to get less work done until the next report. Cheers! [1] https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/tails_server/ [2] https://gitlab.com/segfault_/tails_server [3] https://mailman.boum.org/pipermail/tails-ux/2016-April/thread.html#919 [4] https://mailman.boum.org/pipermail/tails-ux/2016-May/thread.html#953

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Firejail Integration
by bancfc＠openmailbox.org 13 May '16

13 May '16

Hi Yawning. We are thinking about how to integrate your Firejail profile [0] in Whonix. Do you plan to upstream the changes in the start-tor-browser script soon? If not then what is the best way to ensure the custom script survives TBB upgrades? [0] https://git.schwanenlied.me/yawning/tor-firejail

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