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Tor Relay Software Warns When Current Running Version Of Tor Is No Longer Recommended, But Not When A Newer Version Is Available?
by Keifer Bly 21 Sep '18

21 Sep '18

Hello, A few days ago, I upgraded my version of tor from 0.3.3.9 to tor 0.3.4.8. I noticed, however, that tor does not tell me when a new version is available. But in the past when I was a few versions behind, it popped up with a message saying “WARNING: this version of tor is out of date or no longer recommended.” So, I am just wondering, why is it that the tor software warns when the current version is “no longer recommended” but does not warn when an update is available? Thanks.

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IPv6 on DSL
by Paul 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Can Tor cope with a daily changing IPv6 Address? If so, are there any additional inputs in torrc to be made as "ip addr|grep inet6|grep global" is not giving a fix value (global noprefixroute dynamic ) Thanks Paul

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More IPv6 questions
by Paul 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#Parttwo:technic… uses "ORPort [IPv6-address]:9001" - so can i use the same port number for IPv4 and IPv6? If I run more than one instance on the same machine, can i use the same IPv6 address like in the first instance - as i can do in IPv4? "ip addr|grep inet6|grep global" doesn't give an answer on every server - what to do instead please to fill the square brackets? Thanks Paul

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Help! TOR Relat dead after upgrading Ubuntu to 18.04
by Ben Riley 19 Sep '18

19 Sep '18

First off, will outline that I am very much a newbie, but was able to get a relay up and running on a Ubuntu machine. It was running fine for maybe 12 months (MelbTorBox), with a few resets and software updates along the way. Just doing my bit to help the network. Anyway, after the Ubuntu upgrade, I had to re-install TOR and I believed I did it basically the same way. Unfortunately, that appears not to be the case. I've posted the error messages on the Ubuntu forum hoping to get assistance, but no joy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1070469/18-04-tor-relay-error-could-not-bin… I'm now coming to the experts to see if I can resurrect relay before I pull the pin on the idea. I have BASIC Unix knowledge (I can type commands and that's about it). I think I might have a couple of copies installed in different places and I know I have the TOR browser installed (it works fine). When I type 'nyx' it replies with: Unable to connect to tor. Maybe it's running without a ControlPort? So I type 'tor' and get Sep 19 21:34:24.819 [notice] Tor 0.3.4.8 (git-5da0e95e4871a0a1) running on Linux with Libevent 2.1.8-stable, OpenSSL 1.1.0g, Zlib 1.2.11, Liblzma 5.2.2, and Libzstd 1.3.3. Sep 19 21:34:24.819 [notice] Tor can't help you if you use it wrong! Learn how to be safe at https://www.torproject.org/download/download#warning Sep 19 21:34:24.819 [notice] Read configuration file "/etc/tor/torrc". Sep 19 21:34:24.823 [notice] Based on detected system memory, MaxMemInQueues is set to 2862 MB. You can override this by setting MaxMemInQueues by hand. Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Scheduler type KIST has been enabled. Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Opening Socks listener on 127.0.0.1:9050 Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Opening Control listener on 127.0.0.1:9051 Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Opening OR listener on 0.0.0.0:9001 Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Opening Directory listener on 0.0.0.0:9050 Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [warn] Could not bind to 0.0.0.0:9050: Address already in use. Is Tor already running? Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Closing partially-constructed Socks listener on 127.0.0.1:9050 Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Closing partially-constructed Control listener on 127.0.0.1:9051 Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [notice] Closing partially-constructed OR listener on 0.0.0.0:9001 Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to bind one of the listener ports. Sep 19 21:34:24.824 [err] Reading config failed--see warnings above. I 'think' my original torrc file may have somehow survived the Ubuntu upgrade, but I don't know how as I did a wipe and re-install of Ubuntu. But when I edited it, there were my contact details sitting there. Very appreciative of any help! Thanks Ben.

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Repeated warning in an exit relay
by livak 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

The relay repeatedly casts the following message: Sep 18 08:19:58.000 [warn] Tried to establish rendezvous on non-OR circuit with purpose Acting as rendevous (pending) What does it mean ? Livak Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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maha's tor-latest on COPR?
by renke＠mobtm.com 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

Hi *, does anyone know if maha still supports his Fedora/Epel repo for the latest Tor release[1]? I'm nearly sure he announced his repo on the list some time ago, but I don't find the mail anymore... With 0.3.3.10 (and 0.3.4.8) released and not really happy with compiling it myself[2] an up to date repo for redhattish distributions would be very nice. Thanks Renke [1] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/maha/tor-latest/ [2] too lazy :)

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A bug or a feature ?
by livak 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

The ORPort option of torrc was changed fom 9030 to 80, the relay was sent a HUP signal: kill -HUP [PID] and exited with: Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [notice] Received reload signal (hup). Reloading config and resetting internal state. Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [notice] Read configuration file "/usr/share/tor/tor-service-defaults-torrc". Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [notice] Read configuration file "/etc/tor/torrc". Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [notice] Opening Directory listener on 0.0.0.0:80 Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [warn] Could not bind to 0.0.0.0:80: Permission denied Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [notice] Closing no-longer-configured Directory listener on 0.0.0.0:9030 Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to bind one of the listener ports. Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [err] Reading config failed--see warnings above. For usage, try -h. Sep 18 07:59:04.000 [warn] Restart failed (config error?). Exiting. When the relay was manually restarted and it successfully ran. Can it be considered a bug ? Livak Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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Torservers relay family decreased?
by Tobias Westerhever 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

Hello, recently, I noticed some strange aspects related to networks of Torservers/Zwiebelfreunde. Since there was no way to get any further information on this topic so far, I am posting it here. Maybe someone can help. (a) Torservers relay family decreased? The organisation used to maintain much more relays than their family [1] currently contains. At the moment, only four relays located in NL belong to them, while the Metrics page indicates some orphaned family members. This coincidences with [2], but I am unaware of any announcements of Torservers/Zwiebelfreunde itself (i.e. tight financial situation). Does anybody have further details here? (b) Who is the operator behind family B771AA877687F88E6F1CA5354756DF6C8A7B6B24 ? There are some /24 IPv4 BGP allocations claiming to belong to the umbrella organisation "Zwiebelfreunde e.V.", which operate(d|s) the relay family mentioned above. I will ask further questions about this in (c) . However, there is a _huge_ relay family (27 members, with a total bandwith of ~ 1,245 MB) located in 185.220.101.0/24 , which uses Zwiebelfreunde as a contact role and has not been changed since 2017-09-08. The relays itself, however, all use <abuse(a)to-surf-and-protect.net> as contact address (which does not seem to be related to Zwiebelfreunde at all) and use a description beginning with "nifty". Since most of them have both Guard and Exit flag assigned, I figure they are handling a huge consensus weight. Does anybody know the person/organisation behind them? Are they related to Zwiebelfreunde/Torservers? What is the physical location of the servers (BGP claims DE, but upstream AS200052 uses UK)? (c) Strange BGP allocations using Zwiebelfreunde as contact role At the moment, 9 IPv4 BGP prefixes with a length of /24 are known to use a contact role pointing to Zwiebelfreunde [4] . These are as follows: - 37.218.246.0/24 (Upstream AS47172 "Greenhost", claims EU, but is likely NL, 0 Tor relays found) - 193.235.207.0/24 (Upstream AS196689 "Digicube", claims EU, but is likely FR, 0 Tor relays found) - 192.36.61.0/24 (Upstream AS60781 "Leaseweb", claims EU, but is likely NL, 0 Tor relays found) - 192.36.41.0/24 (Upstream AS34305 "BaseIP", claims EU, but is likely NL, 0 Tor relays found) - 192.36.27.0/24 (Upstream AS60729 "Zwiebelfreunde" !, claims EU, physical location unknown, 0 Tor relays found) - 185.220.102.0/24 (Upstream AS60729 "Zwiebelfreunde" !, claims EU, physical location unknown, 0 Tor relays found) - 185.220.101.0/24 (Upstream AS200052 "Joshua Peter McQuistan", claims DE, physical location unknown, 27 Tor relays found) What puzzles me here is: 1. None of these networks has any Tor relays known (or Metrics does not show them), which is strange as Torservers/Zwiebelfreunde is more or less dedicated to operate relays. 2. The appearing relays solely belong to the strange and huge family mentioned in (b) , which cannot be exactly pinpointed to be run by Torservers/Zwiebelfreunde. 3. I suspected the mentioned IP ranges to be fakely allocated, but most of them were not changed for more than half a year. Further, I never observed any traffic from or to these networks. If anybody does, please drop me a line. 4. All for relays which do belong to Torservers are located in AS43350 ("NForce Entertainment") and do not have their own IPv4 prefix. *** As of these coincidences, and the observations mentioned in (a) and (b), I suspect something nasty (or highly unusual) is going on, but I have no clue what this might be. It would be great if someone who is in Tor more deeply than I am could take a look at this. Also, if there is further information available, please tell me. "Mit dem Wissen wächst der Zweifel. / Doubt grows with knowledge." -- Goethe Best regards, T. Westerhever Links: [1] https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/family:0FF233C8D78A17B8DB7C82… [2] https://blog.torservers.net/20180704/coordinated-raids-of-zwiebelfreunde-at… [3] https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/family:B771AA877687F88E6F1CA5… [4] https://bgp.he.net/

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New exit node
by livak 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

Just wanted to tell I could set up a new relay with fingerprint Akbash 7C5032CF2545636FEECCE1065A25944FF49C09F7 The relay is been running for more than a day and gathered the Exit, Fast, Running, V2Dir and Valid flags. However this hardworking relay would not continue its earnest efforts unless it could find a wealthy and amenable sponsor. Livak Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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Exit friendly ISPs
by grarpamp 17 Sep '18

17 Sep '18

On 9/17/18, niftybunny <abuse(a)to-surf-and-protect.net> wrote: > [cost, cost, cost] >> freedom is a profitable business model. We charge double and up rates to ignore and manage everything, short of legal process served, with you on point in role until you're not. Exits, torrents, gaming, IRC, shells, free speech, social nets, researchers, political sites, any legal business... all fine... bring it. Who's in? >>> reputation costs >> >> So these ISPs get a bad reputation mark on the list of >> bad isp's, on forums, on lists, etc. > > No, they don’t. We (the Tor people) are a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction > of a tiny fraction. Nobody really cares about us. Opinion: RIMU hosting sucks. Why: Because they refuse to host legal exits, or state / negotiate any upstream terms regarding them. Changepoint: When they do either or both of those. There, that should search rank before long. > They have 1 Million websites hosted, who cares > about 2-3 people complaining they do not host Tor exists? If that was an ISP's ratio they'd have much bigger things to deal with, and efficiences in dealing with them, than to care about banning a handful of exit customers. Absent prohibition in law or upstream contract, most ISP's banning such things simply haven't done much to develop and... >> Explore the possible.

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