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Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China
by Tony Xue 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

> Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:20:22 -0500 > From: that guy <grep(a)gmx.us> > To: tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China > Message-ID: <528746E6.1030208(a)gmx.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 11/15/2013 06:20 PM, tor-relays-request(a)lists.torproject.org wrote: >> I've heard that some ISPs in China provide uncensored network >> access to foreign companies. But this is hearsay > > You are correct but it is not that simple nor widespread. What I've > seen most often is execs from big companies getting special > considerations so while "uncensored" might be a stretch there is some > truth to the above. I can find out more any time if anyone needs some > info please contact me any time as I don't think it will be a big > topic of discussion here:) I have seen heavy use of VPN's by western > students visiting, or studying in Bejing w/out issue. I'll have very > current info and can get some near instant feedback in the next day or > two. > > And to the guys saying "avoid the ussa like the plague" this wanna-be > expat agrees 100%. Sadly! And for a whole lot more than just Tor nodes. But keep in mind that Chinese people like to do things in a tricky way. They might say not censored network but they didn't say they're not monitoring it. The gov has said that they will be strict on "ideology" in any situation. I did hear about someone in "a famous Finnish mobile phone company which will belong to a US operating system making company" said they can access facebook directly but I haven't got a chance to see whether they are using an enterprise level VPN or uncensored network. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > PGP Fingerprint : > 7770 D186 A06E A329 2217 > 3161 63EB F269 37B8 8644 > > http://pastebin.com/8W8vyNjb > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers > from > the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government > becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter > or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its > foundation on > such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall > seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." > > >From the United States of America's Declaration of Independence > July 4, 1776 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ >

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Building on a Udoo Dual
by Richard Budd 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

Does anyone know if the Tor Project has sources for top that can be compiled on a Udoo Dual? It's running Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) on a ARMv7 processor. I've tried following the instructions on https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian, but I get an Err http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/ experimental-oneiric/main tor 0.2.4.17-rc-1~oneiric+1 (dsc) 404 Not Found [IP: 38.229.72.14 80] error when trying to run the "sudo apt-get source tor" command. I had no problem compiling on a Raspberry Pi, but of course this is a different animal. Thanks, Richard

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor relay in Russia/China
by that guy 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

On 11/15/2013 06:20 PM, tor-relays-request(a)lists.torproject.org wrote: > I've heard that some ISPs in China provide uncensored network > access to foreign companies. But this is hearsay You are correct but it is not that simple nor widespread. What I've seen most often is execs from big companies getting special considerations so while "uncensored" might be a stretch there is some truth to the above. I can find out more any time if anyone needs some info please contact me any time as I don't think it will be a big topic of discussion here:) I have seen heavy use of VPN's by western students visiting, or studying in Bejing w/out issue. I'll have very current info and can get some near instant feedback in the next day or two. And to the guys saying "avoid the ussa like the plague" this wanna-be expat agrees 100%. Sadly! And for a whole lot more than just Tor nodes. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprint : 7770 D186 A06E A329 2217 3161 63EB F269 37B8 8644 http://pastebin.com/8W8vyNjb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." >From the United States of America's Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [tor-relays] Running random web services on a bridge-server?
by Kostas Jakeliunas 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

On Nov 16, 2013 1:01 PM, "Martin Kepplinger" <martink(a)posteo.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry for being lazy, I'm not sure if I can figure it enirely out > myself: Is there _any_ implication on the status of a bridge in the Tor > network when I run random web services like an open website, xmpp > server, whatever, on the same device/IP? It'll somehow be more exposed > that way but I'd be happy on any opinion. I guess probability that > someone finds out that there is a bridge behind my IP is rising. I really have nothing to back this up but I would *think* that additional services on the same IP might mask the bridge from / confuse some active/reactive probing based bridge disovery attacks. Then again, if active probing is usually only done on a particular (ip, port) pair (the one that someone in China is connecting to, for example), then there's probably no difference anyway.

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Running random web services on a bridge-server?
by Martin Kepplinger 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

Hi, Sorry for being lazy, I'm not sure if I can figure it enirely out myself: Is there _any_ implication on the status of a bridge in the Tor network when I run random web services like an open website, xmpp server, whatever, on the same device/IP? It'll somehow be more exposed that way but I'd be happy on any opinion. I guess probability that someone finds out that there is a bridge behind my IP is rising. thanks, martin

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Tor replay in Finland
by Anonymous 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all list readers, Someone has experience with Finland tor replays/exits? Do you know any problem with running it from the lagal side? I may say that I'm currently hosting an tor exit node in Finland, but unsure if it's an good idea. - -- Best Regars, Anonymous - Supporter of Free Speech. GPG: 0x78612223 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJShplBAAoJEFy6M0x4YSIj9N4P/1Mj3Dclm4yJqDqPz2GfsFTk iksvd6y7hiFrSQoEle19DQ7Z/mxC2GFjohJ2zrYNnjEfRb/sUDbyLFbF21CRjrZV spmyv0cvi33hBSEvAB3IHKGj9wMkRU9Yd0DNV58YkrvqavDEPd/8UN+u7GKowuGK ms0Z+wFuIlBeqAA5gdoQZoARbULuXZrIvuJbbmadgXLmBss80YG2UFhLKAt5oJN4 CtW5wibpmIRAxOqBlCJTTGxHatxWarGovgMG4evdSYqqThg7rMf17NXHNIrT6qX/ BELlUn5lkKYoGg5/yxXSUAP9+S2KEnRvEaP0bgPybYhzTs2Y4OAJlkbayq67NMS4 VmiE9aBn3etDSxGGsLtafXWWw1XCN2jIJVkevGTB/Pbr5aBKe48jjAHoQqooHHpQ iRe/G4esipaficbD/74cEOe8yD0Dbt9KDpG+Eqj5NuSJLwqnJdJFXXWVWpNuWVMj TZaCrxArLScdw/2BlfgbQc4sidSGRs6YhijbE1fCe2zq6Jh/KOBentXVGgl8XWel crrjpr0lvg0km076RyMW6Jy9eF6pQSlcHMPP32sfZmQ+V1sZCzfORMxRCSUQmjda jA8ZNXN9yoTHM5pEuTjgl74TaebBjxoI2ZCD6FnP8D5S9vy2lIwT2DYFz8klyrC/ 7p56MdJhPzawQrLnJHdv =Q86H -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Tor relay in Russia
by jj tor 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

Hi, list readers, Someone has experience with russian tor relays? Do you know of any legal problem for an exit relay ? Thank you

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Exit nodes on a Gandi VPS
by Eric van der Vlist 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

Hi list, I am a (happy) Gandi customer and I'd like to support the Tor project by setting up an exit node on one of their VPS (https://www.gandi.net/hosting/iaas) As mentioned on the list of Good/bad ISPs, (https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs Gandi does accept Tor exit nodes. I have contacted their technical support who said they did support the Tor project but wouldn't ne able to do specific ARIN declarations and that it would be my responsibility to be reactive to abuse complaints. Despite this perspective (and Julien Robin's bad experience) I am still willing to give it a try. Gandi have data centers in Paris (France), Luxembourg and Baltimore (US) that I can use with the same cost and efforts and I am wondering which of these locations would be more useful for the community. Thanks for your advises! Eric

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Ingoing & Outgoing connections
by earlgrey 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

Hello, is it possible to achieve this behaviour : RELAY RELAY RELAY RELAYRELAY RELAY | | | | | | +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+ | | ( internet connection 1 ) | | MY RELAY ( on computer #1 ) | | ( LAN connection ) | | PROXY ( on computer #2 ) | | ( internet connection 2 ) | | +---------------+---------------+----------------+ ||| | EXIT_CONNECTION EXIT_CONNECTION EXIT_CONNECTION EXIT_CONNECTION I cant find / undertand the options in torrc documentation. In fact I would have a "ExitConnectionProxy IP:Port" option. Any idea ?

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Bad idea to switch from a relay to a bridge?
by Nick 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

Hi, I've been running a very low bandwidth relay for a little while with my home ADSL connection, but given the up speed is so poor, and (more importantly) my ADSL provider has stopped switching my IP about every 24 hours, I'd like to switch to be a bridge. However, I'm wondering whether the fact that my IP is already known as a relay means that it wouldn't be useful? That is, if the people bridges try to foil are likely to just blacklist any relays they see by default (it wasn't an exit or guard). Thanks for any advice, Nick

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