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Cheapest HW to get 20Mbit?
by Daniel Armyr 28 Aug '16

28 Aug '16

Hi Since a few months back I have two RPi running Tor relays and delivering about 1Mbit each of peak throughput. Now my ISP has increased my max upload speed and I am looking to contribute more, somewhere in the 20Mbit range or possibly more. But what hardware do I need? Has anyone written down a list of minimum requirements to get a certain throughout? I have tried to google, but failed. Sincerely Daniel Armyr.

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Re: [tor-relays] Cheapest HW to get 20Mbit?
by Pi3 28 Aug '16

28 Aug '16

Hi Daniel, Judging from my pi3 mid relay where 5mbit traffic is about 20% of 1 core (tor uses 1 core mostly) 20-25mbit should be fine for pi3. In the peak hours it will be probably close to maximum what pi3 is capable on 1 core but when cost is a factor I would not think of anything else 1gb ram is more than enough, my tor uses about 150mb If you think of exit, cpu load may be higher

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Re: [tor-relays] interesting network sockets pattern
by Toralf Förster 28 Aug '16

28 Aug '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/25/2016 07:02 PM, Toralf Förster wrote: > This is a fresh new Tor exit, setup 4 days ago, https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/BE2FA9FCB6242567B93ED99FEC5543FC517C9… , where I do wonder how to interpret the attached screen shot. The full SVG graphic can be derived from http://www.zwiebeltoralf.de/torserver/graph-20160825.svg (scroll down to the end) - -- Toralf PGP: C4EACDDE 0076E94E, OTR: 420E74C8 30246EE7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF0EAREIAAYFAlfAOBwACgkQxOrN3gB26U7NEAD/U8eOOYq+sArqaGdrJ5+RzTUY G8duzPfhX6bbiI2u55cA93IBBN/7Hog4WhftxhM681ntxKk44KkYOryqyIaBZp4= =WWe1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [tor-relays] interesting network sockets pattern
by Jivan Amara 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

> On Friday 26 August 2016 14:37:48 Toralf Förster wrote: >> On 08/25/2016 07:02 PM, Toralf Förster wrote: >>> This is a fresh new Tor exit, setup 4 days ago, >>> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/BE2FA9FCB6242567B93ED99FEC5543FC517 >>> C9276 , where I do wonder how to interpret the attached screen shot. >> The full SVG graphic can be derived from >> http://www.zwiebeltoralf.de/torserver/graph-20160825.svg (scroll down to >> the end) > Hi Toralf, > > I see the same patterns on my relays from time to time. Please see my 2012 > posting https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2012-December/001781.html on [tor-relay] on that subject. I still have no idea what > causes the pattern. > > Regards, > > torland > I suspect this is due to a circuit built with a node that has lower max bandwidth settings than yours. The regular bandwidth cap holds traffic back for a time, then the burst bandwidth cap lets some through at a higher speed for a short period. -J

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GeoIP
by Fred Rauch 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Hi, I just started up another relay, and atlas' GeoIP data on it is incorrect (says it is in Netherlands when it is in fact in Lithuania). Where does Atlas get its GeoIP data from? Can this be corrected? It's not a huge issue but it would be nice for the correct country to be displayed. albino

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Some information about Tor relays
by Liu, Zhuotao 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Hi Folks, This is Sky from University of Illinois. Currently we are working on research project related with Tor. To help us to better design and evaluation our proposal, we need some information about the Tor relays that is currently unavailable from the Atlas. Thus, if someone who operates Tor relays could provide us such information, your help will be greatly appreciated. :) We hope to have an estimate about computation capacity of Tor relays. For instance, how many circuits a relay can maintain when its CPU is driven to about 100%? On average, how many circuits are maintained by a busy guard and what the CPU utilization is. These kinds of information would be really helpful. Further, in Sep 2013, Tor saw a spike in its clients. https://blog.torproject.org/blog/how-to-handle-millions-new-tor-clients The suspicion is that a botnet used Tor as its C&C channel. Is there any data about the relay utilization during that time? For instance, how many more circuits a relay had to maintain during that time? Thanks a lot for your help. :)

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BSD buildbot: call for enrollment
by George 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

There is a BSD-focused buildbot at https://buildbot.pixelminers.net/ for admins running *BSD relays: FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD. . . The buildbot is a useful tool for Tor developers working on development versions of Tor. The BSDs are particularly important for a variety of reasons, including addressing portability issues with Tor code. Certainly the operating system monoculture problems with the Tor network shouldn't need any comments at this point (ie RFC5961). For those interested in enlisting their BSD relay, this TDP blog post provides more information: https://torbsd.github.io/blog.html#buildbot http://bptfp7py2wclht26.onion/blog.html#buildbot g -- 5F77 765E 40D6 5340 A0F5 3401 4997 FF11 A86F 44E2

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Tor not running since last Debian update
by Martin Kepplinger 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Hi So I think 2 days ago I updated tor on my debian stable machine and since then it's seen as not running anymore. It should be a relay. And locally it doesn't listen on port 9050, so it's not even a client now. My torrc hasn't changed. What's going on? Any config changes I missed? thanks martin

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#torstrike
by Arisbe 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

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halp #2
by Markus Koch 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Sorry to bother you guys again Its 6am here and after reading the FAQ and other install guides I am out of ideas I just complied TOR (hurray!) on a NON-ROOT server. 1. Issue: I cant find the torrc file. I found out that the rest of the stuff is in ~./tor but no torrc at all. Where is it/should I put it? 2. Issue: I only need the complied TOR executable and I can safely delete all the other stuff? Cheers, Markus

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HALP!
by Markus Koch 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

I just deleted my best running exit node to move to another vps. I copied /etc/tor and /var/lib/tor + keys dir and moved it to the new vps. I double-checked the files/keys are the same but i still get a new fingerprint. Wtf is wrong with me? Markus Sent from my iPad

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Re: [tor-relays] GeoIP
by Tristan 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Well, as canonizing ironize says on Tor's StackExchange, "GeoIP is bullshit." https://github.com/epidemics-scepticism/tor-misconception/blob/master/READM… On Aug 23, 2016 10:10 AM, "Fred Rauch" <albino(a)autistici.org> wrote: Hi, I just started up another relay, and atlas' GeoIP data on it is incorrect (says it is in Netherlands when it is in fact in Lithuania). Where does Atlas get its GeoIP data from? Can this be corrected? It's not a huge issue but it would be nice for the correct country to be displayed. albino _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

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relay on a vps not exclusively used for tor?
by jensm1 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Hi, I'm planning to get myself a small VPS for simple things like calendar-synching and backup of important data. Since these things are very light on resource-usage, I thought about putting a tor relay (non-exit) on the server, so it does something useful instead of idling most of the time. Is this advisable, or are there reasons why I shouldn't put a relay on a server that is used simultaneously by other things? Thanks for your advice!

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Accounting and the 'Stable' flag
by Ralph Seichter 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Hello list, I have enabled daily accounting on a non-exit Tor relay some days ago. On the first day, the transfer threshold was reached and the relay entered hibernation for a few hours, as expected. On the next day, I reduced RelayBandwidthRate to ensure that the accumulated transfer would fall just short of the AccountingMax value. During the last days, the relay has only been offline once for a couple of minutes (software update), besides the previously mentioned single hibernation period. As of today, the relay seems to have lost the 'Stable' flag, which I don't really understand. Am I missing something here? I could not find documentation mentioning a relationship between accounting and the 'Stable' flag. -Ralph

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Re: [tor-relays] #torstrike
by Pi3 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Or six-years-old-sandbox(a)lists.torproject.org This whole manifesto sounds like it was written by spoiled teenager or counter intelligence agent who is trying to incite unrest. Its designed to provoke emotions and doesn't deal with anything real. And I think its really awesome. This means that tor is a pain on someone's ass and doing its job for people who really need it. This someone is likely from said intelligence because spinning sexual scandals and building new stuff on those "scandals" is their way of doing their job where people get socially crucified without any evidence or legal conduct. Even when and _if_ such conduct happens it _always_ ends fast and without conclusions, but the harm was already made. Noise around tor is good for tor - it means its alive. Its just sad to see that people can get destroyed in this information war. Actually this stuff made me to slap another relay somewhere On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 9:08 AM, I <beatthebastards(a)inbox.com> wrote: This thread should be moved to [ tor-knitting-circle(a)lists.torproject.org ] or write to The Tor Corporation you think exists. Robert

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Tiny computers (RPi-like) for exit nodes?
by Zack Weinberg 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Has anyone had any experience running *exit* nodes on Raspberry Pi-grade hardware, or slightly beefier? We are thinking of replacing the old, bulky, power-hungry machine currently running exit 78C7C299DB4C4BD119A22B87B57D5AF5F3741A79 with something on that level. It only has to hit 10Mbps. thanks, zw

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Re: [tor-relays] #torstrike
by AMuse 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

I'm not switching off my relay, primarily because I'm lazy and can't be arsed to figure out what all the politics bullshit is about. Some project member did some shit and other project members are mad at them. Other people may or may not be righteously mad at the first people for reasons I haven't bothered to learn. I started my relay so oppressed people in third world countries could communicate with the outside world and each other in relative safety. If that objective is still being achieved by the software, I could give a shit what beefs the coders have with each other. On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 8:14 PM, krishna e bera <keb(a)cyblings.on.ca> wrote: > On 21/08/16 10:02 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Fact: Jacob Applebaum's directory authority was a target of NSA's > > XKEYSCORE: > > https://contraspin.co.nz/the-weaponising-of-social-part-3- > the-resurrection-of-ioerror/ > > Of course, perhaps they all are. > > > Fact: Jacob Applebaum got kicked from Tor Inc, prior to a proper > > investigation. > > Any organization would do the same with similar allegations. If he was > exonerated, he could rejoin afterwards. > > > > Fact: The investigation done by Tor Inc, was run by the primary accusers > > of Jacob Applebaum. > > Evidence? > > > > In the USA's war against Bradley Manning, Julian Assange, Wikileaks and > > Edward Snowden, Jacob Applebaum was a very high target, and caused the > > three letter agencies a lot of problems. > > > > So yes, operation of the network you use for -genuine- privacy needs, is > > very much dependent on those running the organisation. > > > > > > Fact: The ENTIRE board of Tor Inc got replaced after Jacob was given the > > boot! > > > > My conclusion: This was a coup, blunt and bloody, take no prisoners, > > respect no righteousness. > > Overdramatic. Where's the blood? Who was behind the coup, and what > hard evidence do you have? Are you looking for #torstrike to prompt > leaks of such info? > > Makes more sense for the Board to be distinct from the day to day > operations people anyway. > > > > My conclusion: The operation of the Tor directory authorities can no > > longer be trusted. > > Perhaps it never could be. Are you ready to run one? > > > > My conclusion: The deployment of TBB by Tor Inc can no longer be > > trusted. > > Fork it. > > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >

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ExoneraTor down
by Alexander Dietrich 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Hi, I just tried to use ExoneraTor, but it seems to be down: https://exonerator.torproject.org/ Best regards, Alexander -- PGP Key: https://dietrich.cx/pgp | 0x52FA4EE1722D54EB

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Re: [tor-relays] relay on a vps not exclusively used for tor?
by Tristan 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Honestly I have no idea how provides would enforce that rule anyway for that very reason. My guess is that it's a technicality, since Tor _can_ but isn't specifically _designed_ to max CPU usage. On Aug 21, 2016 10:47 PM, "Green Dream" <greendream848(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Most AUPs ban the use of programs designed to use 100% CPU >> >> A well-utilized Tor node will max out CPU... > > Mine hasn't. It peaks at about 30%. It can't even hit the 150Mbps limit I > set. Let me rephrase it then: a well-utilized Tor node _can_ max out CPU. I have two guard/middle nodes with maxed out cores. CPU is actually their bottleneck. They have high consensus weight and get a lot of use though. My point was just that if a VPS provider has a policy against software that maxes out CPU, Tor could cause that condition. Whether or not a provider would actually enforce this against a Tor node is another question. I haven't heard of it happening but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

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issues with a fresh new tor server
by Toralf Förster 21 Aug '16

21 Aug '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I made the following steps to have /var/lib/tor encrypted under an ext4fs under a stable Gentoo Linux: at a local system: head -c 16 /dev/random | xxd -p > ~/tmp-salt.txt; echo 0x`cat ~/tmp-salt.txt` > ~/.cryptoSalt; rm ~/tmp-salt.txt picked up a password from: pwgen -s 16 open the remote directory: scp ~/.crypto{Pass,Salt} user@host:home; ssh user@host 'cat ~/.cryptoPass | sudo e4crypt add_key -S $(cat ~/.cryptoSalt) /var/lib/tor; rm ~/.crypto{Pass,Salt}' debug.log tells me: ... Aug 21 15:09:23.817 [notice] Opening Directory listener on [2a01:4f8:190:514a::2]:80 Aug 21 15:09:23.000 [warn] Your log may contain sensitive information - you're logging more than "notice". Don't log unless it serves an important reason. Overwrite the log afterwards. Aug 21 15:09:23.000 [debug] tor_disable_debugger_attach(): Attemping to disable debugger attachment to Tor for unprivileged users. Aug 21 15:09:23.000 [debug] tor_disable_debugger_attach(): Debugger attachment disabled for unprivileged users. Aug 21 15:09:23.000 [info] tor_lockfile_lock(): Locking "/var/lib/tor/data/lock" Aug 21 15:09:23.000 [warn] Couldn't open "/var/lib/tor/data/lock" for locking: Operation not permitted Aug 21 15:09:23.000 [err] set_options(): Bug: Acting on config options left us in a broken state. Dying. (on Tor 0.2.8.6 ) and indeed : # ls -alR /var/lib/tor/ /var/lib/tor/: total 12 drwxr-xr-x 3 tor tor 4096 Aug 21 15:09 . drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Aug 21 03:10 .. drwx------ 2 tor tor 4096 Aug 21 15:09 data - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Aug 19 14:47 .keep_net-misc_tor-0 /var/lib/tor/data: total 8 drwx------ 2 tor tor 4096 Aug 21 15:09 . drwxr-xr-x 3 tor tor 4096 Aug 21 15:09 .. Any hints ? - -- Toralf PGP: C4EACDDE 0076E94E, OTR: 420E74C8 30246EE7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAle5qVMACgkQxOrN3gB26U6DKwD+KqNyqPlp3QvnSbC375p0sqe8 u9EeBJHUVX2xQxSIg9QA/icPTjMdK5iKh0uAgreqKi5T0g+JmxyGYg/Tp9ePJANl =w8Jd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Question about the stable flag.
by tmbates12 21 Aug '16

21 Aug '16

Due to some problems with my VPS provider lately my relay hasn't been up consistently the past two weeks since it was created. I was wondering if it would be better to start from scratch again to get the stable flag considering my relay's bad history.

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Guard Flag without stable Flag
by tmbates12 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

My relatively new Tor relay has somehow managed to get a Guard flag without having the Stable flag, I'm not sure if this is supposed to happen though..? https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/ABF5C38A93F2D7E77A226871AB0ADB052279B…

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Relay vs exit node
by majacobs 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Is my understanding correct that is NOT possible to run an accesspoint that connects to tor running a relay instead of an exit-node? I am able to torify programs running on the system , but need the acces point to be torified for some clients that need to go through tor. I am aware that this is possible if I run an exit node but my isp is seeing malware traffic every week or do if I do so... the white rider (Het leuke van ... is

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Fwd: Problems with isp's onestrike policy
by majacobs 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

>> >> Cut off three times because of worm spread alert. I ran an exit node for just a couple of weeks. First came in while i was away on holiday . Could not connect to my vpn but noticed that one of my consumer routers send a reboot message around the first day of my vacation and didn't think about it again , that is till I got home and really started to run the node . Node 0d0a was running fine and well when the net was cut of for a second time just a few days before the third and last time. I contacted support , sought advice I was told to better run a relay. >> No way! I thought! >> To cut a story short, I know run in bridged mode (obsfs4proxy) but I am looking for solutions as to how Tor can help not seeing exit-nodes coming and going because of worm spreading? >> >> >> >> the white rider >> (Het leuke van ... is

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Re: [tor-relays] Tiny computers (RPi-like) for exit nodes?
by Pi3 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Im running 5 Mbits mid node on Pi3. Cpu load is 25-30% on 1 core with full steady traffic - no aes-ni here. Things should improve greatly when this ticket will go live in 0.2.9.x https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/7572

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