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Re: [tor-relays] Guard flag flapping
by torrry＠Safe-mail.net 10 Aug '15

10 Aug '15

> Thanks for running the tests. Which exit nodes led to poor performance? I would like to try to reproduce any performance problems. I did not record the nodes (they were in Europe). A simple test you could run on your server is fetching directory info from nodes that have directory functionality enabled. wget http://<relay IP>:<dir port>/tor/server/all e.g.: wget http://176.126.252.11:443/tor/server/all You can get a bandwidth-sorted list of nodes at: https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ There is a column that has the directory port. > How would you measure performance between my node and a given exit without being influenced by the properties of the middle relay? You can only set me as an entrynode, and you can't pick a specific middle, You are wrong. :-) You can build arbitrary circuits by hand. There are libraries like Stem, Txtorcon, TorCtl and there is a text based, SMTP-like protocol that you can use directly: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/control-spec.txt > so how would you know that the low performance was my node and not the random middle relay? Your node would be a non-random middle relay. > > The bandwidth auths probably downrate the measurement results of your server severely because of those slow connections. > > Probably? How can we investigate further? AFAIK, the raw bandwidth auth measurements are not published, only the total result.

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Re: [tor-relays] I.P. being Blocked?
by Carlin Bingham 10 Aug '15

10 Aug '15

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015, at 05:19 AM, Roman Mamedov wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:02:14 -0400 > Zack Weinberg <zackw(a)cmu.edu> wrote: > > > several "this IP is a source of spam" blacklists indiscriminately list _all_ > > Tor relays, whether or not they are exit nodes. > > Now this is just unnecessarily FUDish, at http://bgp.he.net/ one can check > their IPs against 49 RBLs, I checked several of my long-running relays' IPs, > and they are on none of the 49. > Try MX Toolbox's blacklist check[0], it searches over 90 blacklists and you'll find at the very least you're on one of the Tor-specific lists. [0] https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx -- Carlin

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I.P. being Blocked?
by Kurt Besig 09 Aug '15

09 Aug '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Without going into any detail at this point I'm wondering if others, running a simple middle relay, have encountered any governmental harassment as a direct result of running a relay. The blocking of state agencies e.g, CA.SDI.gov, CA.DMV.gov? Over the past month I've noticed regardless of which browser, machine on my LAN, and wired or wireless connection utilized it's become impossible to connect to any ca.gov site. I've researched my router, cable modem, and firewall settings, all appear to be fine. Spoke with my ISP, for whatever worth that might have, and was assured no blocking or filters were in place that would keep me from reaching these services and my settings looked fine from what they could see from their end. I'm able to connect to ca.gov sites using my phones 4G network or through Tor, however for some reason my home network and associated I.P. is poison. Any experiences/input would be appreciated. Thanks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVx4UrAAoJEJQqkaGlFNDPILMIALq/zYHqdm/QpThUI/vbr74L Q5lzLiVJBbxOxC3nWX/fuJL35FyS2FwOY4K+piI0EcDpY+wZ/m2hZh7wJLzwh9ok z0j0Dcp7GL3N2c64UP/7XFCrlaNtMm/0ke1xsxUkd0NahZNDCqv7BOkR9IX5yAfx lK5qOw9fpjyzVIdLd1LM1VArWGoEI6dR8PI3rmmGmzP6m9OGC8MxqW2rx+g1p0C5 0F+wDgnmM9rUa2VcgGXf7F4lJkEpUOtjwrsrasclLE8WbwBVv47a84eSSCLKCnUm rD5fUjFBgcaJtrVRgrwydWBcCuIujfxyiCz+Ku8+jtazB5cMdeiZjZN1pgRgKS8= =z1cc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: [tor-relays] Guard flag flapping
by torrry＠Safe-mail.net 09 Aug '15

09 Aug '15

-------- Original Message -------- From: Green Dream <greendream848(a)gmail.com> Apparently from: tor-relays-bounces(a)lists.torproject.org To: tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Guard flag flapping Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:49:16 -0700 > I've learned from this thread that the Guard flag flapping is a direct result of the low measured bandwidth. I still have no idea why the measured bandwidth is so (terribly, comically) low. The fact that it's so wrong is somewhat telling. Actual performance on the network is like 1000 times better than what the measured bandwidth says! Something feels very broken here. I ran some tests against your node. While performance is generally very good, it has very low performance connecting to some exit nodes. The problem is likely that your ISP is routing some traffic via an overloaded peering point. Some ISPs have been know to do that on purpose, e.g. to make connections to Netflix or Youtube extremely slow while claiming not to do throttling. The bandwidth auths probably downrate the measurement results of your server severely because of those slow connections.

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BoingBoing: What happened when we got subpoenaed over our Tor exit node
by starlight.2015q3＠binnacle.cx 08 Aug '15

08 Aug '15

http://boingboing.net/2015/08/04/what-happened-when-the-fbi-sub.html check out comment #2 as well as the blog article

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Re: [tor-relays] Guard flag flapping
by torrry＠Safe-mail.net 08 Aug '15

08 Aug '15

-------- Original Message -------- From: starlight.2015q3(a)binnacle.cx Apparently from: tor-relays-bounces(a)lists.torproject.org To: tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Guard flag flapping Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:39:48 -0400 > My advice is that this QWest service is third-rate > and rather than bleeding for the length of the > contract, run for the hills! > > If you are still in the 1-month cancellation > period (relays are about a month old), terminate > the service immediately and place an order for > Verizon FiOS. Verizon is one of those ISPs who have played routing games, slowing down Netflix and other traffic that happens to use use the same routing: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/186576-verizon-caught-throttling-netfl…

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Guard flag flapping
by starlight.2015q3＠binnacle.cx 08 Aug '15

08 Aug '15

[apologies to all for thread-breaking, am really going on hiatus but the horror-show performance GBE topic was too darn interesting--last post I promise!] >I would call it a dedicated gigabit link. This is >probably up for debate. The provider's overall >capacity is very likely not [number of customers] >x [1 Gb/s] but I've never witnessed signs of >throttling or over-subscription. Pulling a whois on the IP 184.100.166.110 and a quick Google turned up that you are probably a bleeding-edge subscriber to this new Quest service: https://www.centurylink.com/fiber/ Running a filter on Blutmagie hostname contains quest shows that your relays are, by a huge margin, the fastest of about a dozen. My advice is that this QWest service is third-rate and rather than bleeding for the length of the contract, run for the hills! If you are still in the 1-month cancellation period (relays are about a month old), terminate the service immediately and place an order for Verizon FiOS. FiOS costs more, but sells real bandwidth instead of imaginary bandwidth. You can run a relay on a 75/75 MBit link (like mine) and obtain respectable bandwidth ranking. FiOS goes up to 1/2 GB for about $300-400 per month but the bandwidth is real and the network is good-to-excellent. Either that or switch to leasing a colo server in Germany or some other country where bandwidth is extremely cheap, or perhaps finding a cheap bandwidth colo in the US. QWest GBE looks like a turkey.

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Guard flag flapping
by starlight.2015q3＠binnacle.cx 08 Aug '15

08 Aug '15

>The problem is likely that your ISP is routing >some traffic via an overloaded peering point. Running traceroute -w 1 -q 5 -A <bwauth-IP> 1400 may provide more detail on this issue. The -A option causes 'traceroute' to show Autonomous System numbers with each route hop, where ASNs are Internet routing domains associated with different network providers. One can readily see where big increases in latency are occurring along the path and what peerings are associated with it. Note that some big increases are justified--such as with a hop over a transatlantic cable. Setting -q 5 (or bigger) causes traceroute to attempt each hop that many times. If you see asterisk characters, that's packet loss and may indicate congestion points. Setting the packet size to 1400 will increase the probability that network congestion will impact the results. Try pulling up https: // torstatus dot blutmagie dot de which shows IPs together with other relay attributes and experiment tracing to various major relays.

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Guard flag flapping
by starlight.2015q3＠binnacle.cx 08 Aug '15

08 Aug '15

>. . .have physical access to the . . . ONT. > Doubt this is the case, but on the off chance that the ONT is configured to flow IP traffic over a coaxial cable attached to a CPE router (customer premise equipment), the configuration should be changed to deliver data over a Gigabit Ethernet directly to a good-quality GBE switch provided by you. New eight-port Netgears are surprisingly good managed switches for around $100. For under $600 you can purchase used 24-or-48-port Nortel/Avaya 5510/5520 switches on eBay. Though old, these enterprise grade switches have astounding performance characteristics due to the Broadcom silicon switch-fabric chipset. Were around $7000 new when they were current-gen. All above switches have VLAN support so one switch can operate as multiple isolated networks. I run a Verizon FiOS 75/75 and the default setup is for Internet traffic to pass to a Verizon supplied Actiontec router over a coax cable. Fortunately I hung out with the installer and found out up front--had it switched to the GBE from the outset. For any VZ customers reading this, note that you can connect the Actiontec to your network so it can obtain TV programming information. The coax will continue to carry video and phone data which are on separate fiber optic wavelengths/channels.

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onionoo.thecthulhu.com: 500 Server Error
by nusenu 08 Aug '15

08 Aug '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Thomas, in case this is not known to you yet: There appears to be a problem with your onionoo instance: https://onionoo.thecthulhu.com/summary?limit=1 Error 500 Server Error -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVxZ6AAAoJEFv7XvVCELh05cUQALASqTfj6gZTb8gd73WT/9mB gcUHqhl6scGBNW9Vl88X0uAk55HdO36nqOc/rTv9GaMSFQQ1bgO1nUIFWTvDcpNG /yLTHwWOshoaVNLmL6kJV4KiaLDtUjA3jY8knh59mIYBjL6gLaIKjp8c55i4HUzM UmYa9vPVVOmdWhAuIoIImbEfQqRcR61Ig0NBGheYWF7AAPBgQUv9c+c4fCYOBnla hs9pEMQJ/5u860RJqfETbEe/JVwD3zD+gJL9S7tshQNWKFAShPElgVMRvPu0aRK2 7IIG4szdinqXKd/7Ii9ZtllhWGu9vDGYeFP+9U/sHg4RGZ7bJhLwsMd5VTOgLGpb b5IEPxfTxfSN27FJig+bj6NNCtsVEmYKFayeWhAbml2Rip60a9fc+OBd9tGP6jlb pGCtox02kVUt+7zFJv1sqdf3Qp05RwvETr0it5d0V2+Lm68MRfVZDZ7O24IOTaYp eG6gBMnkmL2hNbgNgUMlvqOOiLYOyjlzhJx1toFLJcdWm9yfSTn90DrfaDFzMacF RRa7oW/mCzo0vseYhTWKJO8w4HJZJUbumZ0w11liqJbJQc1bg4nSVHurVf88Fb6H 5E80IsSFqNA1/vp15tTQsuAkTCK/ycLkKpPYd4Sz8ZEGiKXVqCNszG0QX8MCgk9Q QHz0wwggcg9wGiHFG13l =9H2Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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