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Updating tor relay software to 0.3.4.9 through google backup and sync on Windows 10
by Keifer Bly 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Hello list, So I am in a bit of a dilemma. I am currently away from the computer where my obfs4 bridge at https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/148BD64BED9F2C27637D986DE032… runs off of and will be so for the next two weeks. I had set up TeamViewer so I could remote administer my bridge while I could not physically access the machine. But then, like a complete dork, I forgot TeamViewer automatically changes the connection password every few days or so, I am waiting to hear back from them if they can reset it for me. I am trying to access it because my bridge is currently running tor 0.3.4.8 (via the tor expert bundle) and am trying to update it to tor 0.3.4.9, but now may not be able to do so because the TeamViewer password changed (smacks face for forgetting it does that). I am running my relay via the tor expert bundle, which is just checked and is still on tor 0.3.4.8 (I am guessing the tor expert bundle is updated on a somewhat different schedule). I use Google Backup and Sync to automatically backup my tor bridge keys, etc, and tor.exe is also backed up. Probably not, but I wonder if there would be a way to upload tor 0.3.4.9.exe in place of 0.3.4.8 and sync it to my computer? Probably not as this bridge is running on a Windows machine, but thoughts are appreciated. Thank you.

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cyb3r1n73L Relays MyFamily Configuration
by nusenu 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

Hi cyb3r1n73L, thanks for adding so many new tor exit relays to the network. Please do not forget to set your "MyFamily" configuration parameter on all your relays, so Tor clients are not at risk of using your relays in multiple positions in a single circuit. You can find the instructions in the Tor relay guide: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#Importantifyour… > 2018-11-17 > > | Up | Ext | JoinTime | IP | AS | CC | ORp | Dirp | OS | Version | Nickname | eFamMembers | FP | > |------+-------+------------+--------------+--------------------+------+-------+--------+-------+-----------+------------+---------------+------------------------------------------| > | 1 | 1 | 17:17:39 | 158.255.3.14 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | hollow | 1 | 008164D073537EEE099B83935A87A80FABCE365D | > | 1 | 1 | 17:36:32 | 158.255.3.22 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | plague | 1 | 04148208898E2CB692E66545AC3999F2E46EFC9F | > | 1 | 1 | 20:00:36 | 158.255.3.37 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | crow | 1 | 1AAE2E257FBD5669C3788BC9152CFCC3F08A2005 | > | 1 | 1 | 20:00:45 | 158.255.3.27 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | phoenix | 1 | 069CBCAC9BA17A7DB338EADB77B583DB3B9EB575 | > | 1 | 1 | 20:00:45 | 158.255.3.35 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | charade | 1 | B7130260E4FCBE73EB3A0707925C5C64693777C5 | > | 0 | 1 | 20:00:46 | 158.255.3.39 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | aspect | 1 | 97EEA4F9B39405D7B33C154CB5E346FFBAE520AA | > | 1 | 1 | 20:00:46 | 158.255.3.36 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | oddity | 1 | B79B76BECA45EDC29E36CCBF8DD614F9214B69FC | > | 1 | 1 | 20:00:47 | 158.255.3.38 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | acid | 1 | D95ADED4FF29B2C256FD3AA67C1E2A662F751D89 | > | 1 | 1 | 21:37:25 | 158.255.3.39 | Mir Telematiki Ltd | ru | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | aspect | 1 | C8DA052842E29A8153A2F769BC387865C2F75F4C | > 2018-11-14 > > | Up | Ext | JoinTime | IP | AS | CC | ORp | Dirp | OS | Version | Nickname | eFamMembers | FP | > |------+-------+------------+-----------------+------+------+-------+--------+-------+-----------+------------+---------------+------------------------------------------| > | 1 | 1 | 19:08:13 | 185.234.217.231 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | indie | 1 | B82A940CDAD62501EB8B1BB74FAE2D11B72D9F18 | > | 1 | 1 | 19:20:08 | 185.234.217.232 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | coyote | 1 | 171BD73EB0C2B0AA37769716B6CAE903B7A364E1 | > | 1 | 1 | 19:26:20 | 185.234.217.233 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | cryo | 1 | 1A5AB832F2091EB5AFAD1FFB1895FBA4D7EFB6BC | > | 1 | 1 | 19:31:16 | 185.234.217.234 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | rags | 1 | E1430BEB656EA0702636CCF5722DADFE30C5B581 | > | 1 | 1 | 19:36:11 | 185.234.217.235 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | gigi | 1 | 34CB1480BD47F7258E86496900B2AC169E19EEA5 | > | 1 | 1 | 19:43:12 | 185.234.217.241 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | slash | 1 | 927ABD6372C0A333E2FD74248267CF29DE6C0CC2 | > | 1 | 1 | 19:47:10 | 185.234.217.242 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | rebel | 1 | F9211E9641A980BD24D3C3D6AEC289A303B50A44 | > | 1 | 1 | 19:50:57 | 185.234.217.243 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | reaper | 1 | 27157FFFF473AF58B66B43EA1DEF8B38DC480C10 | > | 1 | 1 | 19:55:32 | 185.234.217.244 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | buster | 1 | 42B4FE0E2DED79C3C76E0847C2BC5280763A9184 | > | 1 | 1 | 22:31:42 | 185.234.217.245 | None | ie | 9001 | 80 | Linux | 0.3.4.9 | jazzy | 1 | 35832538B8EF7577628DC65AA489B0DFD7ECEA16 | -- https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu

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upgrade theonionbox
by TorGate 17 Nov '18

17 Nov '18

Hi to all, i have truble with a upgrade of onionbox. :~ % sudo pip install --upgrade theonionbox Password: Collecting theonionbox Using cached https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/f6/90/bab164846bc3f59c2b05f9c15bcf6… Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: psutil>=5.4.0 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (5.4.3) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: requests>2.18 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (2.18.4) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: PySocks>=1.6.7 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.6.8) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: bottle>=0.12.13 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (0.12.13) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: stem<=1.6,>=1.5.4 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.6.0) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: tzlocal>=1.5 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.5.1) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: urllib3>=1.22 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (1.22) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: apscheduler<3.*,>=2.1.2 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (2.1.2) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: futures>=3.2 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from theonionbox) (3.2.0) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: chardet<3.1.0,>=3.0.2 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from requests>2.18->theonionbox) (3.0.4) Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: certifi>=2017.4.17 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from requests>2.18->theonionbox) (2017.11.5) Collecting idna<2.7,>=2.5 (from requests>2.18->theonionbox) Downloading https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/27/cc/6dd9a3869f15c2edfab863b992838… (56kB) 100% |################################| 61kB 1.4MB/s Requirement already satisfied, skipping upgrade: pytz in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from tzlocal>=1.5->theonionbox) (2017.3) Installing collected packages: theonionbox, idna Found existing installation: theonionbox 4.1 Uninstalling theonionbox-4.1: Successfully uninstalled theonionbox-4.1 Error unknown encoding: string-escape while executing command /usr/local/bin/python2.7 -u -c "import setuptools, tokenize;__file__='/tmp/pip-install-6jsgKW/theonionbox/setup.py';f=getattr(tokenize, 'open', open)(__file__);code=f.read().replace('\r\n', '\n');f.close();exec(compile(code, __file__, 'exec'))" install --record /tmp/pip-record-saoyTd/install-record.txt --single-version-externally-managed --compile Running setup.py install for theonionbox ... error Rolling back uninstall of theonionbox Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/cli/base_command.py", line 143, in main status = self.run(options, args) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/commands/install.py", line 366, in run use_user_site=options.use_user_site, File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/req/__init__.py", line 49, in install_given_reqs **kwargs File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/req/req_install.py", line 791, in install spinner=spinner, File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/_internal/utils/misc.py", line 659, in call_subprocess stdout=stdout, cwd=cwd, env=env, File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 394, in __init__ errread, errwrite) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1046, in _execute_child child_exception = pickle.loads(data) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/pickle.py", line 1388, in loads return Unpickler(file).load() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/pickle.py", line 864, in load dispatch[key](self) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/pickle.py", line 977, in load_string self.append(rep.decode("string-escape")) LookupError: unknown encoding: string-escape

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Re: [tor-relays] Bridge Relay Internet Speed Much Slower Than Actual Internet Speed
by entensaison＠use.startmail.com 17 Nov '18

17 Nov '18

Hi Keifer, > Hello List, my bridge relay at > https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/148BD64BED9F2C27637D986DE032… > > Is reporting the relay speed is between 50 kb/s and 60 kb/s, when the > speed of the internet connection it is running off of is actually > much faster than this, generally about 50mbps (the relay is running > on a home internet connection, where the isp is Charter > Communications / Spectrum). As a result, I have the “fast” flag > on/off randomly. > > I do not want my bridge to suck up a huge amount of my internet > speed, but why would the tor software report relay speed that is so > much slower than the speed of the internet connection it runs off of? > > Any thoughts are appreciated, thank you The advertised bandwidth is not the bandwidth of your connection but the bandwidth observed. Your relay probably hasn't been used as a relay so far. When it's being used the advertised bandwidth will rise. Are bridges chosen based on their advertised bandwidth?

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Explaining Tor to worried parent
by DrNotThatEvil 15 Nov '18

15 Nov '18

Hi everybody, My exit got suspended for a little a few hours today, even tho I contacted my isp before to explain the situation (it was related to a spam blacklist suspend policy). I got the matter resolved quickly but due to the annoyance I mentioned it to a parent. The conversation quickly devolved into worry and fear advising me to stop running it, to be honest now that I think about it from her perspective I can't blame her for thinking like this. However the responses and explanations from my end never hit the mark, I know why I'm doing it I know their might be risks but that I'm doing something that I believe in. Have you guys/gals ever faced situations similar to this? How did you handle it? Secondly she also raised the following question: 'if you don't do it somebody else will, so why do you put yourself at risk? Thirdly she detected from the conversation that a Exit Relay might not be free from legal issues and I can't say that this is not the case, but I do think her view of these issues is utmost grim bringing up my future and employment opportunities. How would do you view/explain the severity of these legal issues? Kind Regards, Willmar

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Bittorrent Legal Noise, Advocacy [re: Explaining Tor to worried parent]
by grarpamp 14 Nov '18

14 Nov '18

> Yeah, one of the complete bullshit things. I get around 200 emails per day > like this one: > > Protocol: BITTORRENT This should tend to diminish when you begin creating and showing people how to use filesharing and distributed storage protocols operating entirely within the various encrypted anonymous overlay and storage networks that exist out there. Talking "Privacy" and "Freedom" is hardly enough to get any percentage of various communities migrating inside and safely using these networks, nor to get much change in the world, you have to show them how to use real world apps over those nets. The *years* of anti speech and dis enablement from Tor about agnostic Bittorrent in particular has no doubt hindered some onionification et al of same. So you get that many more bullshit emails and leave lots of unprotected non private and un free peoples still out hanging using clearnet. > I run into this all the time whilst proselytizing for Tor, as for > example at a local non-profit makerspace recently. "Kiddie porn! FBI > raids!" was the hue and cry, whereupon people's brains shut down. But > this is very much a public relations issue Jacob Appelbaum has some great presentations and arguments made very much in the public free speech space mentioning and addressing some of what you speak of. You should look them up on youtube. Move to tor-talk to discuss more. Obligatory PJDU... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW3PFC86UNI > I mentioned [Tor] to a parent. > > The conversation quickly devolved into worry and fear advising me to > stop running it, > to be honest now that I think about it from her perspective I can't > blame her for thinking like this. > However the responses and explanations from my end never hit the mark, I > know why I'm doing it > I know their might be risks but that I'm doing something that I believe in. > > Have you guys/gals ever faced situations similar to this? How did you > handle it? > > Secondly she also raised the following question: > 'if you don't do it somebody else will, so why do you put yourself at risk? > > Thirdly she detected from the conversation that a [node] might not > be free from legal issues and > I can't say that this is not the case, but I do think her view of these > issues is utmost grim bringing up > my future and employment opportunities. > How would do you view/explain the severity of these legal issues?

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Become a Fallback Directory Mirror
by Colin Childs 14 Nov '18

14 Nov '18

Hello Tor Relay Operators, Do you want your relay to be a Tor fallback directory mirror? Will it have the same address and port for the next 2 years? Just reply to this email with your relay's fingerprint. If your relay is on the current list, you don't need to do anything. If you're asking: Q: What's a fallback directory mirror? Fallback directory mirrors help Tor clients connect to the network. For more details, see [1]. Q: Is my relay on the current list? Search [2] and [3] for your relay fingerprint or IP address and port: [2] is the current list of fallbacks in Tor. [3] is used to create the next list of fallbacks. Q: What do I need to do if my relay is on the list? Keep the same IP address, keys, and ports. Email tor-relays if the relay's details change. Q: Can my relay be on the list next time? We need fast relays that will be on the same IP address and port for 2 years. Reply to this email to get on the list, or to update the details of your relay. Once or twice a year, we run a script to choose about 150-200 relays from the potential list [3] for the list in Tor [2]. Q: Why didn't my relay get on the list last time? We check a relay's uptime, flags, and speed [4]. Sometimes, a relay might be down when we check. That's ok, we will check it again next time. It's good to have some new relays on the list every release. That helps tor clients, because blocking a changing list is harder. Q. I already have a relay in the fallback list, can I add another? We will pick up to 7 relays per operator to be in the fallback list. Please send any relays that you would like considered for the fallback list. Thanks for considering and/or being a fallback directory mirror! [1]: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/FallbackDirectoryMirrors <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/FallbackDirectoryMirrors> [2]: https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/tree/src/or/fallback_dirs.inc <https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/tree/src/or/fallback_dirs.inc> [3]: https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/tree/scripts/maint/fallback.whitelist <https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/tree/scripts/maint/fallback.whitelist> [4]: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/21564/fallbacks_… <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/21564/fallbacks_…>

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Configuring relay
by DeMarcus Sullivan 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

I am running the latest version on Tor 8.0.3 on my Windows desktop. I would like to run a non-exit relay 24/7 and I'm having trouble finding the step-by-step process to do so. Before I could just copy amd paste the torrc configuration text in the torrc file. It seems that has changed because now Tor won't run properly when I change the torrc file.

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# of connections of a exit relay dropped down by about 90% exactly after 1 month after installation time
by Toralf Förster 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

I do wonder why 2 exit relays (at the same IP address) dropped down from about 8,000 connections to about 1,000 connections after exactly 1 month + 2 hours after they were installed. Furthermore metrics.t.o shows: IPv4 Exit Policy Summary reject 1-65535 It is a hardened Gentoo with LibreSSL, no changes to torrc AFAICT. FWIW I do use offline keys here (for the first time) with a lifetime of 3 months. Rebooted today the system and upgraded from 0.3.5.3-apha to 0.3.5.4-alpha - doesn't helped. relays: https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/509EAB4C5D10C9A9A24B4EA0CE40… https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/63BF46A63F9C21FD315CD061B3EA… -- Toralf PGP C4EACDDE 0076E94E

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Bridge Relay Internet Speed Much Slower Than Actual Internet Speed
by Keifer Bly 11 Nov '18

11 Nov '18

Hello List, my bridge relay at https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/148BD64BED9F2C27637D986DE032… Is reporting the relay speed is between 50 kb/s and 60 kb/s, when the speed of the internet connection it is running off of is actually much faster than this, generally about 50mbps (the relay is running on a home internet connection, where the isp is Charter Communications / Spectrum). As a result, I have the “fast” flag on/off randomly. I do not want my bridge to suck up a huge amount of my internet speed, but why would the tor software report relay speed that is so much slower than the speed of the internet connection it runs off of? Any thoughts are appreciated, thank you.

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