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by Ahmed Ahmed 22 Mar '19

22 Mar '19

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by Ahmed Ahmed 22 Mar '19

22 Mar '19

Aboskenaa(a)gmail.com

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bride&relay one host
by lists＠for-privacy.net 22 Mar '19

22 Mar '19

Hello, Can you run a bride and a middle-relay together on a host? I mean for the safety of users. IPv6 is usually a /64 network and the various IPv4 are usually also from a subnet. -- Ciao Marco!

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IRC meetup time poll
by Colin Childs 22 Mar '19

22 Mar '19

Hi everyone, We are looking at changing the current IRC relay operator meetup time, as well as adding additional times throughout the month. I have created a poll at https://xoyondo.com/dp/oyUpcPqhnnJ6TWz <https://xoyondo.com/dp/oyUpcPqhnnJ6TWz> to collect time preferences for the next meetup (all times are GMT+0). Please add your time preferences by March 15th (1 week from today) to help us better select times that work for you! Thanks, I hope you all have a great weekend!

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New Relay: ShawnWebb01
by Shawn Webb 22 Mar '19

22 Mar '19

Hey all, A few days ago, I put up a new relay on a PC Engines device running HardenedBSD 13-CURRENt/amd64: https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/57869F7458002476F6AC78F7A61C… I should update ContactInfo soon to reflect the ContactInfo format nusenu would like relays to use. IPv4 address of the relay comes from Verizon FiOS and IPv6 comes from Hurricane Electric's TunnelBroker. Please let me know if you have any questions, comments, or concerns. Thanks, -- Shawn Webb Cofounder and Security Engineer HardenedBSD Tor-ified Signal: +1 443-546-8752 Tor+XMPP+OTR: lattera(a)is.a.hacker.sx GPG Key ID: 0x6A84658F52456EEE GPG Key Fingerprint: 2ABA B6BD EF6A F486 BE89 3D9E 6A84 658F 5245 6EEE

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IFF relay operator meetup
by Colin Childs 20 Mar '19

20 Mar '19

Hi everyone, The Tor Project is hosting a relay operator meetup at the 2019 IFF[1]! If you are attending the IFF, please join us on Wednesday, April 3rd @ 16:00 in Los Naranjos! We will discuss common issues operators face, as well as how we can all help to grow the relay operator community both locally and globally. Note: Los Naranjos is inside the IFF venue. You will need to have a ticket for the IFF in order to attend this event. [1] https://platform.internetfreedomfestival.org/en/IFF2019/public/schedule/cus…

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Bridge relay
by Cuco Cuquito 20 Mar '19

20 Mar '19

Can I run a bridge if I have only dynamic IP ? thx

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update tor relay version
by FreeNetwork 18 Mar '19

18 Mar '19

Hello ! I have been hosting tor relay for 3 years and still have a version problem. Let me explain: at the installation of my relay no problem, then a few weeks after an additional flag appears when I consult the relay search tool to display the data on my relay: This relay is running a Tor version that is not recommended by the directory authorities and may contain know issues. This includes both obsolete and experimental versions. The version number used: Tor 0.3.4.9 on Linux I have already tried to update packages without success via an apt-get update I would not want to have to reinstall my relay entirely. What is the solution ? Other questions, can you confirm to me that in case of migration on another server the only key files to preserve are: - ed_master_id_secret_key - secret_id_key - secret_onion_key_ntor I tried to copy these keys to another server without success. Are relays associated with the IP address of the server? Sorry for my english ! thank you in advance for your help

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Fwd: Fw: german plans on banning TOR
by flux 15 Mar '19

15 Mar '19

On 3/15/19 2:43 PM, Volker Mink wrote: > German gouvernment signs new darknet laws. Completely wrong. The Bundesrat does not sign any laws and it is not the German government. It forwards them to the Bundestag which will discuss and _perhaps_ sign it. So, not all is lost at this point. Additionally it seems to me that the intention, which potentially criminalizes running a tor relay in general, was removed by the committees. Nevertheless this peace of paper is completely useless and potentially dangerous even if its all about the so called darknet-stores. All the best flux PS: This is the wrong list as it is supposed to be used for administrative discussions. Please use the tor-talk list instead. > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 11. März 2019 um 21:52 Uhr > *Von:* "Herbert Karl Mathé" <mail(a)hkmathe.de> > *An:* tor-talk <tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org>, tor-relays > <tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org>, "Seth David Schoen" <schoen(a)eff.org> > *Betreff:* [tor-relays] Fw: german plans on banning TOR > Please see below, as well as (German) legislation: > https://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2019/0001-0100/33-19.pdf?__…. > > Bigger picture likely to be behind as pointed out some days ago. > > Shit like this adding to tightening police forces' legislations in > various Federal States in not-so Good Old Germany. > > -- > Herbert Karl Mathé > > mail(a)hkmathe.de > PGP B9BF953500452875 https://www.hkmathe.de/pub_key_16-07-09.txt > @hkmathe > Beethovenstr. 13 60325 Frankfurt Germany > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 22:39:47 +0100 > From: Herbert Karl Mathé <mail(a)hkmathe.de> > To: niftybunny <abuse(a)to-surf-and-protect.net> > Cc: tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] german plans on banning TOR > > > Let's be pragmatic: > > There's "anti-darkweb" propaganda been quite a while going on, mainly > by Federal Criminal Police Office, backed up by Christian (so-called) > Democrats, and the Nazi party, sure, pointing out like lots of > children's lives could be saved, or saved from being abused, resp., > when vanquishing "The Darkweb". Trucks (lorries), knifes, or similar > potentially lethal objects are not on their agenda. Police > spokespersons around the clock complaining being substantially > disadvantaged - should say: retarded??? > > Unsurprisingly, police forces in any legislation are not neutral, > these do not at all mirror society and its inherent diversity. Plus, > police forces very indirectly are serving the public, with any > misdemeanor or assaults to be prosecuted not before afterwards by > taking complex, costly and risky legal actions, never immediately, or > right in place. That makes a huge difference. > > What this legislation is very likely ending up is various courts > ruling through verdicts on eventually shutting down specific sites. > These verdicts might easily appear as being random, which is due to > immense lack of in-depth knowledge in related matters (see file > sharing dissuasions by dedicated law firms being backed by courts > having difficulties understanding IP addresses), also due to each and > every court ruling independent which makes it like gambling, these > courts at the same time being highly susceptible to what is believed > by them to be public opinion. > > The latter is what's being made up right with this legislative > initiative, leveraging Tor Project for staging some threat model. > Cynically enough, threat (by The Onion) again is from foreign, just > like for some time refugees had been said to be (evil propaganda which > obviously, and thank god, did not fully work out). > > In phase of weakness, it's always the outlandish being plead guilty, > being abused to deviate from domestic, and home-made, self-made failure. > > No facts yet, just some reflected opinions - as soon as such > legislation is out it'll be much harder to defend liberty. It's not > about paragraphs, or bits and bytes, it's about freedom and democracy. > > Free press, and journalists as individuals will as consequence be > under heavy suspicion for cooperating with elements of Dark Web. > > If Germany falls... > > -- > Herbert Karl Mathé > > mail(a)hkmathe.de > PGP B9BF953500452875 https://www.hkmathe.de/pub_key_16-07-09.txt > @hkmathe > Beethovenstr. 13 60325 Frankfurt Germany > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 21:19:23 +0100 > niftybunny <abuse(a)to-surf-and-protect.net> wrote: > > > > "Zum anderen ist die Zugänglichmachung jedes > > > internetbasierten Angebots, das auf die Begehung jeglicher > > > Straftaten gerichtet ist, gleichermaßen strafwürdig." > > > > > > Thats every ISP on the world. Every ISP on the world lets you > connect to the internet. What they want to do is outlaw the running of > markets who promote drugs, weapons and cheese pizza. > > Thats already the case. The just want it in one law so they don't > have to process several accusations. > > > > I read it weeks ago and Tor will not be outlawed in this case. > > > > > "Betreiber, deren Angebote ohne entsprechende Zielrichtung zur > Förderung von Straftaten genutzt > > > werden, vom Tatbestand ausgenommen. “ > > > > Ebay will not get fucked, only if you have a market which prime > directive is to sell drugs, weapons and CP. > > > > > Referenced to § 129 StGB in the text: reference is made to > membership in a criminal organization. The Tor project will then be > declared as such. > > > > Dear god … > > > > > > > On 6. Mar 2019, at 20:35, Olaf Grimm <jeep665(a)posteo.de> wrote: > > > > > > Some contradictions in the recommendations of the committee: > > > > > > Take a look on page 6 and 7 (in german, translation of the > sentences below). > > > > > > "Zum anderen ist die Zugänglichmachung jedes > > > internetbasierten Angebots, das auf die Begehung jeglicher > > > Straftaten gerichtet ist, gleichermaßen strafwürdig." > > > > > > "Second, the availability of each > > > Internet-based offer, based on the commission of any > > > Criminal offenses is equally punishable." > > > > > > "Betreiber, deren Angebote ohne entsprechende Zielrichtung zur > Förderung von Straftaten genutzt > > > werden, vom Tatbestand ausgenommen. " > > > > > > "Operators whose offers are used without appropriate target > direction for the promotion of criminal offenses > > > be excluded from the facts." > > > > > > > https://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2019/0001-0100/33-1-19.pdf?… > <https://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2019/0001-0100/33-1-19.pdf?…> > > > > > > I think that's the first step to forbid Tor. The text indicates > operators. Is my relay abroad illegal because I'm German? > > > Referenced to § 129 StGB in the text: reference is made to > membership in a criminal organization. The Tor project will then be > declared as such. > > > > > > Olaf > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 06.03.19 um 15:47 schrieb Volker Mink: > [...] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > tor-relays mailing list > > > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

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Fw: german plans on banning TOR
by Herbert Karl Mathé 15 Mar '19

15 Mar '19

Please see below, as well as (German) legislation: https://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2019/0001-0100/33-19.pdf?__…. Bigger picture likely to be behind as pointed out some days ago. Shit like this adding to tightening police forces' legislations in various Federal States in not-so Good Old Germany. -- Herbert Karl Mathé mail(a)hkmathe.de PGP B9BF953500452875 https://www.hkmathe.de/pub_key_16-07-09.txt @hkmathe Beethovenstr. 13 60325 Frankfurt Germany Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 22:39:47 +0100 From: Herbert Karl Mathé <mail(a)hkmathe.de> To: niftybunny <abuse(a)to-surf-and-protect.net> Cc: tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] german plans on banning TOR Let's be pragmatic: There's "anti-darkweb" propaganda been quite a while going on, mainly by Federal Criminal Police Office, backed up by Christian (so-called) Democrats, and the Nazi party, sure, pointing out like lots of children's lives could be saved, or saved from being abused, resp., when vanquishing "The Darkweb". Trucks (lorries), knifes, or similar potentially lethal objects are not on their agenda. Police spokespersons around the clock complaining being substantially disadvantaged - should say: retarded??? Unsurprisingly, police forces in any legislation are not neutral, these do not at all mirror society and its inherent diversity. Plus, police forces very indirectly are serving the public, with any misdemeanor or assaults to be prosecuted not before afterwards by taking complex, costly and risky legal actions, never immediately, or right in place. That makes a huge difference. What this legislation is very likely ending up is various courts ruling through verdicts on eventually shutting down specific sites. These verdicts might easily appear as being random, which is due to immense lack of in-depth knowledge in related matters (see file sharing dissuasions by dedicated law firms being backed by courts having difficulties understanding IP addresses), also due to each and every court ruling independent which makes it like gambling, these courts at the same time being highly susceptible to what is believed by them to be public opinion. The latter is what's being made up right with this legislative initiative, leveraging Tor Project for staging some threat model. Cynically enough, threat (by The Onion) again is from foreign, just like for some time refugees had been said to be (evil propaganda which obviously, and thank god, did not fully work out). In phase of weakness, it's always the outlandish being plead guilty, being abused to deviate from domestic, and home-made, self-made failure. No facts yet, just some reflected opinions - as soon as such legislation is out it'll be much harder to defend liberty. It's not about paragraphs, or bits and bytes, it's about freedom and democracy. Free press, and journalists as individuals will as consequence be under heavy suspicion for cooperating with elements of Dark Web. If Germany falls... -- Herbert Karl Mathé mail(a)hkmathe.de PGP B9BF953500452875 https://www.hkmathe.de/pub_key_16-07-09.txt @hkmathe Beethovenstr. 13 60325 Frankfurt Germany On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 21:19:23 +0100 niftybunny <abuse(a)to-surf-and-protect.net> wrote: > > "Zum anderen ist die Zugänglichmachung jedes > > internetbasierten Angebots, das auf die Begehung jeglicher > > Straftaten gerichtet ist, gleichermaßen strafwürdig." > > > Thats every ISP on the world. Every ISP on the world lets you connect to the internet. What they want to do is outlaw the running of markets who promote drugs, weapons and cheese pizza. > Thats already the case. The just want it in one law so they don't have to process several accusations. > > I read it weeks ago and Tor will not be outlawed in this case. > > > "Betreiber, deren Angebote ohne entsprechende Zielrichtung zur Förderung von Straftaten genutzt > > werden, vom Tatbestand ausgenommen. “ > > Ebay will not get fucked, only if you have a market which prime directive is to sell drugs, weapons and CP. > > > Referenced to § 129 StGB in the text: reference is made to membership in a criminal organization. The Tor project will then be declared as such. > > Dear god … > > > > On 6. Mar 2019, at 20:35, Olaf Grimm <jeep665(a)posteo.de> wrote: > > > > Some contradictions in the recommendations of the committee: > > > > Take a look on page 6 and 7 (in german, translation of the sentences below). > > > > "Zum anderen ist die Zugänglichmachung jedes > > internetbasierten Angebots, das auf die Begehung jeglicher > > Straftaten gerichtet ist, gleichermaßen strafwürdig." > > > > "Second, the availability of each > > Internet-based offer, based on the commission of any > > Criminal offenses is equally punishable." > > > > "Betreiber, deren Angebote ohne entsprechende Zielrichtung zur Förderung von Straftaten genutzt > > werden, vom Tatbestand ausgenommen. " > > > > "Operators whose offers are used without appropriate target direction for the promotion of criminal offenses > > be excluded from the facts." > > > > https://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2019/0001-0100/33-1-19.pdf?… <https://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2019/0001-0100/33-1-19.pdf?…> > > > > I think that's the first step to forbid Tor. The text indicates operators. Is my relay abroad illegal because I'm German? > > Referenced to § 129 StGB in the text: reference is made to membership in a criminal organization. The Tor project will then be declared as such. > > > > Olaf > > > > > > > > Am 06.03.19 um 15:47 schrieb Volker Mink: [...] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tor-relays mailing list > > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >

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