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Collaborative Bad-Abuse-Sender Blocklist
by Matt Corallo 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

Hi all, I run a few relatively-small exit nodes, and still get a decent flow of the usual Fail2Ban, blocklist.de, and such garbage to abuse PoCs. I tend to proactively find appropriate abuse/noc contacts to provide a response informing them of how they can appropriately block all Tor exits from their SSH ports if they wish, but often get either no or indignant responses about how sending a stream of garbage abuse reports is a useful service to the internet (nevermind that most large providers don't bother handling abuse reports anymore because of exactly this behavior). After a reply or two I usually add senders to a blocklist and bounce them at the mailserver with a notice about spam not being useful. Is there any interest in building up a shared blocklist of senders who feel its their right to send Fail2Ban emails in non-machine-parsable formats and not bother handling replies to their emails they expect others to handle, or does anyone already have such a list? Matt

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Help setting up 2 Relays
by postmaster＠coolcomputers.info 18 Oct '20

18 Oct '20

Hello, I was wondering it anyone more experienced could help me with fixing 1 TOR Exit and 1 TOR Relay. I have everything configured and fingerprints made they just seem to not me recognized by tor metrics. Tor Relay: B0852A98ECDB40E95319DEE339662EEF50708066 Tor Exit: A5D03FC9BE6EE32BD20EE59649BAD802BF4A49FC There is nothing in the notice logs as to why this would be happening. Maybe someone can see what the DA's think of them. Then give me advice on what to do. Thanks, John Csuti postmaster(a)coolcomputers.info

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Network Performance Experiment - KISTSchedRunInterval - October 2020
by David Goulet 17 Oct '20

17 Oct '20

Greetings relay operators! Tor has now embarked in a 2 year long scalability project aimed, in part, at improving the network performance. The first steps will be to measure performance on the public network in order to come up with a baseline. We'll likely be adjusting circuit window size, cell scheduling (KIST) and circuit build timeout (CBT) parameters over the next months in both contained experiments and on the live network. This announcement is about KIST parameters, our cell scheduler. Roughly a year ago, we've discovered that all tor clients are capped to ~3MB/sec in maximum outbound throughput due to how the scheduler is operating. I won't get into the details but if you are curious, it is here: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues/29427 It turns out that we now believe that the entire network, not only clients, are actually capped at 3MB/sec per channel (a channel is a connection between client -> relay or relay -> relay also called an OR connection). We've recently conducted experiments with chutney [1], which operates on the loopback interface, and we indeed hit those limits. KIST has a parameter named KISTSchedRunInterval which is currently set at 10 msec and that is our culprit. By lowering it to 2 msec, our experiment showed that the cap goes from 3MB/sec to ~5MB/sec with burst a bit higher. Now, the question is why was it set to 10 msec in the first place? Again, without getting into the technical details of the KIST paper[2], our cell scheduler requires a "grace period" in order to be able to accumulate cells and then prioritize over many circuits using an EWMA algorithm which tor has been using for a long time now. Without this, one can clog the pipes (at the TCP level) with a very loud transfer by always being scheduled and filling the TCP buffers leaving nothing for the quieter circuit. Important to note that the goal of EWMA in tor is to prioritize quiet circuit for example, an SSH session will be prioritized over a bulk HTTP transfer. This is so "likely" interactive connections are not delayed and are snappy. But, lowering this to 2 msec means less time to accumulate and in theory worst cell prioritization. However, we think this will not be a problem because we believe the network is underloaded. And, because of this 3MB/sec cap per channel, it means that tor is sending burst of cells instead of a constant stream of cells and thus it is under processing what it possibly could at the relay side. Again, all this in theory. All in all, going to 2 msec should improve speed at the very least and not make the network worst. We want to test that, measure that for a couple of weeks and then transition to a higher value and doing that until we get to 10 msec so we can clearly well compare the effect on EWMA priority and performance. One possibility will be 2 msec, 5 msec, 10 msec transition period. Yesterday, a request to our 9 directory authorities have been made to set this consensus parameter: KISTSchedRunInterval=2 We are still missing 1 authority to enable this param for it to take effect network wide. Hopefully, it should be today in the coming hours/day. This is where we need your help. We would like you to notify us on this thread about any noticeable changes in CPU, RAM, or BW usage. In other words, anything that changes from the "average" you've been seeing is worth informing us. We do NOT expect big changes for your relay(s) but there could reasonably be a change in bandwidth throughput and thus some of you could see a traffic increase, unclear at the moment. Huge thanks to everyone here! We will carefully monitor this change and if things go bad, we'll revert it as fast as we can! Thus, your help becomes extremely important! Cheers! David [1] https://git.torproject.org/chutney.git/ [2] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1709.01044.pdf -- 7h1/NAPdaaGpI8WG6X4FtryAZZ4EhnznUVVLqIf/04A=

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Shutdown of my digital ocean guard relay
by mick 16 Oct '20

16 Oct '20

Hi Guys I today received notification from DO that they have changed their Terms of Service and Acceptable Useage policies. Having read those changed notices it is clear to me that DO are no longer really Tor friendly. They do not allow exits and whilst my guard relay there (at roof.rlogin.net with fingerprint EA8637EA746451C0680559FDFF34ABA54DDAE831) has been running for nearly seven years I can no longer do that because of the likely bandwidth charges in future. My DO relay has been using around 12 TiB per month for some time now and I could afford to let it run because I was a "legacy" customer (i.e. early adopter of DO services who was given "free bandwidth forever"). It looks to me from their new ToS that I will no longer enjoy that status after 22 October. So I have shut it down. Any other relay operator using DO services should read their new ToS (1) and AUP (2) and decide for themselves whether they will be affected. My other guard relay at sink.rlogin.net on Hetzner's network will continue in operation. Mick (1) https://www.digitalocean.com/legal/terms-of-service-agreement/ (2) https://www.digitalocean.com/legal/acceptable-use-policy/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 https://baldric.net/about-trivia ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Is this next bad exit trick?
by lists＠for-privacy.net 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

Wtf, this exit has addresses that do not belong to it! https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/385527185E26937D05E0933DD29F… I'm very sure there are only nifty rabbits on the 185.220.101.0/24 subnet! -- ╰_╯ Ciao Marco! Debian GNU/Linux It's free software and it gives you freedom!

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Relay JPsi2 not getting into consensus anymore
by Random Tor Node Operator 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

Hi all, some weeks ago, my relay JPsi2 (F6EC46933CE8D4FAD5CCDAA8B1C5A377685FC521) started experiencing moderate stability problems. It would freeze after a few hours or days. The provider said it was due to Spectre mitigations and the only way for me to fix this would be to switch to a newer (more expensive) plan... Some time later I did so and reinstalled it with Ubuntu 18.04 and placed the old keys into the new installation. It seems they are now expected to be in /var/lib/tor/.tor/keys, as opposed to /var/lib/tor/keys as I was used to in Ubuntu 16.04. However, it does not seem to be making it into the consensus anymore. Only the authority nodes moria1, dizum, and longclaw vote for Running. The others don't. So far I haven't been able to figure out the reason for that, so any help is appreciated. Here is part of the output of journalctl -u tor and the torrc file: Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] Heartbeat: It seems like we are not in the cached consensus. Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 8 days 0:00 hours, with 0 circuits open. I've sent 54.04 MB and received 163.30 MB. Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] While bootstrapping, fetched this many bytes: Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 9368438 (server descriptor fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 1060775 (consensus network-status fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 13332 (authority cert fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 2762395 (microdescriptor fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] While not bootstrapping, fetched this many bytes: Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 111548029 (server descriptor fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 100899 (server descriptor upload) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 15307429 (consensus network-status fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 1785 (authority cert fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] 942746 (microdescriptor fetch) Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] Average packaged cell fullness: 96.710%. TLS write overhead: 31% Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time: 1/1 TAP, 0/0 NTor. Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] Since startup we initiated 0 and received 0 v1 connections; initiated 0 and received 2 v2 connections; initiated 0 and received 114 v3 connections; initiated 0 and received 1899 v4 connections; initiated 46 and received 5694 v5 connections. Oct 11 15:04:32 j60204.servers.jiffybox.net tor[11183]: Oct 11 15:04:32.000 [notice] DoS mitigation since startup: 0 circuits killed with too many cells. 0 circuits rejected, 0 marked addresses. 0 connections closed. 0 single hop clients refused. 0 INTRODUCE2 rejected. Oct 11 18:14:03 j60204.servers. # cat /etc/tor/torrc OfflineMasterKey 1 SOCKSPort 0 SOCKSPolicy reject * RunAsDaemon 1 ControlPort 9051 HashedControlPassword 16:28CD63819CB35660601EB9CED4BC2A4252D3DB80488DFD4F22CA4AE930 ORPort 9001 ORPort [2a00:1158:3::1ba]:9001 Nickname JPsi2 RelayBandwidthRate 12500 KB RelayBandwidthBurst 12500 KB ContactInfo 0xF1ADC390 Random Tor Node Operator <tor at unterderbruecke (dot) de> bitcoin:1LBoEppezy2HauE957HzfFn9UGywK6aboB DirPort 9030 MyFamily $B198C0B4B8C551F174FBB841A172616E3DB3124D, $F6EC46933CE8D4FAD5CCDAA8B1C5A377685FC521 IPv6Exit 0 ExitPolicy reject *:* ExitPolicy reject6 *:*

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Riseup invite code
by lists＠for-privacy.net 09 Oct '20

09 Oct '20

Hiho rise up members, I would like to receive the mails for my hosted Tor relays, such as support tickets from my provider, via Riseup. Can one of the Riseup.net users on this list send me an invite code? Right on me, not in the list ;-) mailto:admin@for-privacy.net or my lists address -- ╰_╯ Ciao Marco! Debian GNU/Linux It's free software and it gives you freedom!

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Malicious Tor relays - post-analysis after two months
by Corl3ss 07 Oct '20

07 Oct '20

Hello, This summer Nusenu shared his posts about malicious relays [1][2] and it was followed by many answers. A very important is Roger's one [3] explaining that the malicious relays have been kicked out of the network and that any new one should be reported. I was wondering if, with some distance with this summer situation / discussion : * new malicious relays have been reported in any way ? * vigilance / watchfulness is still needed ? if yes : * is there specific cases to share (e.g. nodes that block HTTPS on a site or redirect to HTTP ?) * any concern to have on other protocols that use SSL (imaps, smtps, ssh) ? * is there / will there be things implemented as a conclusion of the "call for support for proposal to limit large scale attacks" ? * has it been possible to prepare / set up precautions to avoid this king of situation or it is a too long shot for such a problem ? These questions come with a lot of respect for the project, its teams and the work done. No critics, it is just made to update the knowloedge on the subject as these questions came back with other friends and relay operators. And perhaps a last one, perhaps specific for Nusenu : how do you define a malicious relay ? Sorry but I did not get that precisely, moreover in big group analysis. All answers will be read with care and gratitude ! --- Corl3ss 2042 5D39 E7C1 E657 025E A28F 937D 8A90 FCB0 E24A [1] https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2020-July/018643.html [2] https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2020-August/018817.html [3] https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2020-August/018845.html

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question
by prizzz＠Safe-mail.net 05 Oct '20

05 Oct '20

Hello. Why is my Consensus Weight constantly changing? What factors influence its change? Thanks in advance for your reply =))

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Reconfiguring a middle relay as a bridge
by torix＠protonmail.com 30 Sep '20

30 Sep '20

Is there a security problem with turning a middle relay, whose ip address is known, into a bridge? TIA, --Torix Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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