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[Looking for feedback] An easier way to declare families
by Nick Mathewson 14 Dec '21

14 Dec '21

Hello, relay operators! I'm hoping to get some feedback from relay operators, particularly those who use the MyFamily option, about the best way to deploy proposal 321. You can read the proposal at: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/master/proposals/321-… The main idea of this proposal is to provide an easier way for relays to declare that they are in the same family. With proposal 321, each relay in the same family uses a cryptographic certificate to prove that it is in the same family as the others. (That's just a summary; see the full proposal at the link above for a write up of how it works, an a description of backwards compatibility issues.) Now, my question is, how can we make this approach as usable as possible? There are several different ways that we could have it work in practice: Option 1: Every family would have a shared secret. This would be a random file that you'd have to copy to every relay in the family when you set it up. The relays would use this shared secret to derive a shared private key. If this file is ever exposed (for example, if a relay is compromised), you'd need to make a new one, and copy it to every relay in the family. (Otherwise, an attacker could claim to be in your family.) We could provide a convenient function to make a new secure shared secret, something like: $ tor --new-family-secret <filename> Option 2: As above, except instead of the shared secret, it would be a shared ed25519 private key for the family. This would be an ed25519 private key that would have to be copied to every relay in the family. If this key is ever exposed (For example, if one relay in the family is compromised), you'll need to make a new one, and copy it to every relay in the family. (Otherwise, an attacker could claim to be in your family.) We'd provide a command to generate new keys; it would look something like: $ tor --new-family-key <keyfile> Option 3: Offline certificate generation with separate distribution. In this scheme, there would be an ed25519 private key for the family, but you wouldn't have to copy it to the relays. Instead, you'd have to generate certificates from the private key offline, and then copy those certificates to the relays. They would have a lifetime of N days; you'd need to make new certificates every N days. If a relay's certificate is exposed, you don't need to generate new certificates for the other relays. You just stop generating certificates for that one relay. If the offline private key were ever exposed, you'd have to generate a new one, and a new set of certificates. The interface would probably look something like: $ tor --new-family-key <keyfile> $ tor --make-family-certs --key <keyfile> --members \ <family_list_file> --out <certfile> --lifetime <n days> Then you'd do something like: $ for member in $(cat family_hostnames); do scp <certfile> member:/srv/tor/tor-family-cert done Option 3 requires regular updates to all the relays in the family, which makes it cumbersome. Its advantage is that if a relay is compromised, you don't need to re-key the family. Options 1 and 2 are less secure, since you have to re-key your whole family if the key is ever compromised. But they have the advantage that they don't take any maintenance in the regular case. Option 1 is a little more convenient than option 2, since you can use any old random file. But that makes it more error prone: if somebody chooses an insecure password as their random file, an attacker could guess it and become a family member. So... If all three of these options were available, which of these would you choose? Is there anything else that we could do to make this system simpler or easier to use? If I'm left to my own devices, I will probably just implement option 2 for now, but leave the door open for option 3 in the future. best wishes, -- Nick

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bridge distribution mechanism
by potlatch 14 Dec '21

14 Dec '21

Hello Tor universe, One of the bridges I recently set up shows the Bridge distribution mechanism as https: Question: Is this an issue or does it impact the functionality of the bridge? Or maybe I made a boo boo during setup. Most of my bridges report Moat as the mechanism. Just trying to learn something. Best, potlatch Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email.

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Introduction from ellie (at) nicecock
by ellie＠nicecock.eu 14 Dec '21

14 Dec '21

Dear relay operators, I would like to take this opportunity to also introduce myself. Online, I most often go by the name Ellie. I have set up one relay so far, but plan to host one or two more in the coming days/weeks with more planned down the road. I am not even close to running the same number of nodes as some of you guys do, but I am just doing my part. All my nodes should be hosted under the tor.nicecock.eu domain. The domain originated as an acronym for a project I did with a couple of people. Unfortunately, it could not continue under that name. My eventual goal is to run somewhere around five to ten nodes. My current node is running on AS12876, which is quite a popular choice for nodes. I recognize this is not that good, but I figure running a node despite that is better than not running one at all. I am looking forward to talking and discussing with you in the future. Best regards in addition to a nice day, Ellie P.S. I hope I am not needlessly spamming the mailing list, I just wanted to introduce myself even as a small beginning operator.

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Re: [tor-relays] Fw: is my tor bridge running ok ?
by Natus 12 Dec '21

12 Dec '21

hi Torix, The logs are indeed meaningful, I am confident my bridge is used : Dec 11 23:23:13.000 [notice] Heartbeat: In the last 6 hours, I have seen 5 unique clients. Dec 12 05:23:13.000 [notice] Heartbeat: In the last 6 hours, I have seen 3 unique clients. > There is a bridge tester page at: > https://bridges.torproject.org/scan/ This one only validate the ports are open. > As for finding out if anyone is using it or not, I use: > netstat -n |grep ESTA|wc -l This one does not limit to tor bridge On Sat Dec 11, 2021 at 7:32 PM CET, torix wrote: > > Dear Natus, > > So glad to hear you put up a bridge - > > > I'm writing you directly because I seem to have encrypted myself out of > being able to write to the list; they can't unencrypt what I write any > more to check if it's okay to put on the list. > > There is a bridge tester page at: > https://bridges.torproject.org/scan/ > To test your ipv4 orport, put in your ipv4 address of your bridge. > For the obfs4 port, be sure to put in the orport number from this line > in your torrc: > https://bridges.torproject.org/scan/ > ServerTransportListenAddr obfs4 0.0.0.0:<your port number> > Resulting page will tell you if the bridge is working or not. > > As for finding out if anyone is using it or not, I use: > netstat -n |grep ESTA|wc -l > to find the number of current connections. > Or, for more modern linuxes which stopped having netstat installed: > ss -t|grep ESTAB |wc -l > Or, if you are using FreeBSD: > sockstat -c |grep _tor| wc -l > > Going back to the log file: There is a heartbeat message that gives you > the number of users every 6 hours. Here's 2 examples from mine: > > Dec 11 14:16:03.000 [notice] Heartbeat: In the last 6 hours, I have seen > 20 unique clients. > > Dec 11 20:16:03.000 [notice] Heartbeat: In the last 6 hours, I have seen > 17 unique clients. > > > HTH, > > --Torix > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Saturday, December 11th, 2021 at 5:47 PM, Natus <natus(a)riseup.net> > wrote: > > > hi > > > > > just setup a tor bridge. how can I validate it is up and running ? > > > > > logs look fine: > > > > > > [notice] You can check the status of your bridge relay at https://bridges.torproject.org/status?id=<a key> > > > > > > > [notice] Unable to find IPv4 address for ORPort <port>. You might want to specify IPv6Only to it or set an explicit address or set Address. > > > > > > > [notice] your ORPort <ip>:<port> is reachable from the outside. Excellent. Publishing server descriptor. > > > > > When going on the link above I get : > > > > > > Bridge <a key> advertises: > > > > > > > - obfs4: functional > > > > > > > Last tested: 2021-12-11 17:38:47.790513642 +0000 UTC (3m11.984999137s ago) > > > > > Then any way to monitor how useful running this is ? > > > > > THanks > > > > > tor-relays mailing list > > > > > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > > > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

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is my tor bridge running ok ?
by Natus 11 Dec '21

11 Dec '21

hi just setup a tor bridge. how can I validate it is up and running ? logs look fine: > [notice] You can check the status of your bridge relay at https://bridges.torproject.org/status?id=<a key> > [notice] Unable to find IPv4 address for ORPort <port>. You might want to specify IPv6Only to it or set an explicit address or set Address. > [notice] your ORPort <ip>:<port> is reachable from the outside. Excellent. Publishing server descriptor. When going on the link above I get : > Bridge <a key> advertises: > > * obfs4: functional > Last tested: 2021-12-11 17:38:47.790513642 +0000 UTC (3m11.984999137s ago) Then any way to monitor how useful running this is ? THanks

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Mitigating log4j exploits
by Jens Kubieziel 11 Dec '21

11 Dec '21

Hiho, we got a notice that currently several exploit attempts for the log4j flaw going through Tor exit nodes und using LDAP. See https://www.greynoise.io/viz/query/?gnql=tags%3A%22Apache%20Log4j%20RCE%20A… The sender asked to do something against the currently running attacks. One possibility is, in my opinion, rejecting connection over ports 389 and 636. What do you think? Should we as exit node operators block connections over those LDAP ports for some amount of time? Best, qbi

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Responding to Tor censorship in Russia
by gus 11 Dec '21

11 Dec '21

Dear relay operators, Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1]. Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users. As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship! We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor! We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge. If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: https://blog.torproject.org/run-a-bridge-campaign/ Gus [1] https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40050 -- The Tor Project Community Team Lead

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I bumped out some more bad relays
by Roger Dingledine 10 Dec '21

10 Dec '21

Hi folks, I spent some time this week refining a new exit scanner, and today we pushed some new reject rules to kick out some relays that we confirmed were running mitmproxy to do more sslstrips. For past context, see these urls: https://blog.torproject.org/bad-exit-relays-may-june-2020 https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2020-July/018656.html https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-July/034219.html Expect some upcoming next steps that aim to change the fundamental arms race, including experiments to use https by default in Tor Browser, either via HTTPS Everywhere's "Encrypt All Sites Eligible" option (you can turn that on right now) or via Firefox's upcoming built-in version of the idea: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/19850 For completeness, I'm including below the set of fingerprints that we bumped out. Note that we didn't confirm misbehavior from all of them -- some of them we're bumping out because they seemed sufficiently similar to the confirmed ones. If any of these are your relays, please speak up! 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Re: [tor-relays] tor-relays Digest, Vol 131, Issue 4
by imran qureshi 08 Dec '21

08 Dec '21

hi i don't understand how to run relay on my laptop while i run orbot on my android On Wed, 8 Dec 2021, 17:32 , <tor-relays-request(a)lists.torproject.org> wrote: > Send tor-relays mailing list submissions to > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tor-relays-request(a)lists.torproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tor-relays-owner(a)lists.torproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tor-relays digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Responding to Tor censorship in Russia (gus) > 2. Re: Responding to Tor censorship in Russia (John Ricketts) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:16:05 -0300 > From: gus <gus(a)torproject.org> > To: tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > Subject: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia > Message-ID: <20211207201605.GN2321@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear relay operators, > > Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read > more about the situation here[1]. > > Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with > more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users. > > As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor > block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship! > > We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor! > > We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge. > > If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to > get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the > requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored > Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: > https://blog.torproject.org/run-a-bridge-campaign/ > > Gus > > [1] > https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ > https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40050 > -- > The Tor Project > Community Team Lead >

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Is Tor Actually "Blocked" In Russia, or Are Some Users Unblocked for now?
by Neel Chauhan 06 Dec '21

06 Dec '21

Hi tor-relays@, While I don't live in Russia, nor are my parents from Russia (they're from India), today, I noticed these articles that some people noticed Tor is blocked in Russia (sorry for being late): https://ntc.party/t/ooni-reports-of-tor-blocking-in-certain-isps-since-2021… https://forum.torproject.net/t/tor-blocked-in-russia-how-to-circumvent-cens… Yet, when I look at Tor Relay Status, I noticed many relays hosted on Russian residential ISPs are still online, and only a few aren't: Moscow City Telephone: *https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/as:AS25513 Rostelecom: * https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/as:AS12389 * https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/as:AS42610 * https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/as:AS34168 Vimpelcom: * https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/as:AS8371 * https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/as:AS8402 MTS: * https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/as:AS60496 I didn't notice a big reduction in "relay" users on Metrics: https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html?start=2021-09-0… But did see an increase in "bridge" users: https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-bridge-country.html?start=2021-09-… And most Ooni results still show Tor can connect fine: https://explorer.ooni.org/search?until=2021-12-06&since=2021-11-29&probe_cc… I feel it could be possible it's one of the two: * Most likely, the censorship rollout is in stages. Some users are blocked but other's aren't, where it wasn't rolled out is still unblocked. * Less likely, but Russia found people could use pluggable transports, like HTTPS obfs4 bridges and maybe they found blocking Tor itself is ineffective, or trying to block "meek" users ended up blocking Microsoft and ASP.NET/Azure-based webapps. Disclaimer: I work at Microsoft, but not on Azure as of now. I did however interview for a position in the Azure umbrella (not on the CDN however). -Neel Chauhan

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