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Tor relay says it is reachable, but is not appearing on the network.
by Keifer Bly 24 May '19

24 May '19

Hi all, something very strange is going on with my relay called torworld. For some reason, the tor software is reporting that the relay is reachable and the relay is sending and receiving data (please see the attached screenshot), but after several days the relay is not appearing on the tor relay list. This seems strange and any ideas as to why this might be happening is appreciated. Thank you. running on Debian via Google Cloud VPS. Thank you. --Keifer

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Scanning relays looking for onions
by Jordan 24 May '19

24 May '19

Looks like someone is making HTTP requests to known relays with a host header of an onion address. I have a webserver that returns 200 OK to all requests for honeypot-related fun and well... I can only imagine what they think my relay hosts as a result. Stay safe out there friends. 2019-05-23T02:43:58Z 5.8.10.[snip] 200 jg4rli4xoagvvmw47fr2bnnf[snip].onion / -- Jordan https://yui.cat/

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new tor middle relay error
by Keifer Bly 24 May '19

24 May '19

Hi all, So I am running a new tor middle relay via a Google Cloud VPS but after the relay running for 1 day I am seeing this error May 16 18:23:50.000 [notice] Heartbeat: It seems like we are not in the cached consensus. Any thoughts on why this is happening is appreciated, thank you. --Keifer

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forward relay connections
by tor-relay＠riseup.net 23 May '19

23 May '19

Hello dear friends I'm running a non exit relay on a debian machine (in the next few months I will switch to *BSD) on a Lime2. I'm running an exit relay too on a remote VM. I would turn my non-exit relay in an exit one, but for obvious reasons, I don't want to run It from my shitty ISP IP. I could give 10-14 mbps from my home connection, so I think that the lime2 would be powerful enough to run It properly. Do you think would be feasible to use SSH to forward all connections, except DNS queries, between my Lime2 and the remote VM in order to use an additional VM's IP? Could you give me some tips please? cheers Gigi

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Tor relay problem
by findmei 22 May '19

22 May '19

Hi guys, I recently set up a tor relay on Centos7.But when I check the node at https://metrics.torproject.org/, i see that the relay is offline.Even though it is online.I looked tor log file. There was two common warning. May 15 14:42:13.000 [warn] Unable to stat resolver configuration in '/etc/resolv.conf': Permission denied May 15 14:49:13.000 [warn] HTTP status 307 ("Temporary Redirect") was unexpected while uploading descriptor to server '86.59.21.38:80'. Possibly the server is misconfigured? I try to chmod 777 /etc/resolv.conf for this warning " /etc/resolv.conf': Permission denied".But it didnt work it.And then i searched it on google for "HTTP status 307 ("Temporary Redirect")" .But i didn't find solution.Any suggestions? /etc/tor/torrc => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tD6zg2mwZy/ /var/log/tor/notices.log => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JsPGdgFJyT/ systemctl statust tor -l => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qpppzVK8qR/ Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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Re: [tor-relays] Trouble Running Middle Relay On Google Cloud Debian VBS
by Keifer Bly 18 May '19

18 May '19

--Keifer On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 2:28 PM Keifer Bly <keifer.bly(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have a specified port (65534). I just tried changing the ip adress to > 35.232.92.24 <https://35.232.92.24/>, and the connection to that port is > allowed by the firewall. I will check again over the next day and see if > anything chages. It is strange the software says traffic is being received > and says " > --May 18 01:20:06.000 [notice] Self-testing indicates your ORPort is > reachable from the outside. Excellent. > May 18 01:20:08.000 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done." > > So according to the software the relay is reachable and sending and > receiving traffic. Seems strange it appears unreachable to me. Wonder why > that might be. Thanks. > > > On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 1:42 PM Roman Mamedov <rm(a)romanrm.net> wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 May 2019 22:26:25 -0700 >> Keifer Bly <keifer.bly(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > So I am starting a new middle relay using a VPS hosted on Google Cloud >> > running Debian. though the relay is running, it is not appearing in the >> > consensus after 10 hours. Here is the tor log, any thoughts on what is >> > going on would be greatly appreciated thank you. >> >> > May 15 18:23:53.000 [notice] Now checking whether ORPort >> > 35.238.140.120:65534 is reachable... (this may take up to 20 minutes -- >> > look for log messages indicating success) >> > May 15 18:23:54.000 [notice] Self-testing indicates your ORPort is >> > reachable from the outside. Excellent. >> >> FWIW this 35.238.140.120:65534 is not reachable right now from any of my >> machines. Did you change the port or IP since then? Also, I never used a >> Google >> VPS, but it appears you need to do extra steps to ensure you get a static >> external IP: >> >> https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/ip-addresses/reserve-static-external-… >> Did you do that? >> >> >> -- >> With respect, >> Roman >> >

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Trouble Running Middle Relay On Google Cloud Debian VBS
by Keifer Bly 18 May '19

18 May '19

Hi all, So I am starting a new middle relay using a VPS hosted on Google Cloud running Debian. though the relay is running, it is not appearing in the consensus after 10 hours. Here is the tor log, any thoughts on what is going on would be greatly appreciated thank you. May 15 18:23:47.096 [notice] Opening OR listener on 0.0.0.0:65534 May 15 18:23:47.000 [notice] Parsing GEOIP IPv4 file /usr/share/tor/geoip. May 15 18:23:47.000 [notice] Parsing GEOIP IPv6 file /usr/share/tor/geoip6. May 15 18:23:47.000 [notice] Configured to measure statistics. Look for the *-stats files that will first be written to the data directory in 24 hours from now. May 15 18:23:47.000 [warn] You are running Tor as root. You don't need to, and you probably shouldn't. May 15 18:23:47.000 [notice] Your Tor server's identity key fingerprint is 'torworld 3A4E582092E7C6B822EC01F4D76F680F6C65B0A2' May 15 18:23:47.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 0%: Starting May 15 18:23:50.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 80%: Connecting to the Tor network May 15 18:23:51.000 [notice] Guessed our IP address as 35.238.140.120 (source: 193.23.244.244). May 15 18:23:52.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 85%: Finishing handshake with first hop May 15 18:23:52.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 90%: Establishing a Tor circuit May 15 18:23:53.000 [notice] Tor has successfully opened a circuit. Looks like client functionality is working. May 15 18:23:53.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 100%: Done May 15 18:23:53.000 [notice] Now checking whether ORPort 35.238.140.120:65534 is reachable... (this may take up to 20 minutes -- look for log messages indicating success) May 15 18:23:54.000 [notice] Self-testing indicates your ORPort is reachable from the outside. Excellent. May 15 18:23:56.000 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done. May 16 00:23:50.000 [notice] Heartbeat: It seems like we are not in the cached consensus. May 16 00:23:50.000 [notice] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 5:59 hours, with 0 circuits open. I've sent 789 kB and received 7.41 MB. May 16 00:23:50.000 [notice] Average packaged cell fullness: 100.000%. TLS write overhead: 27% May 16 00:23:50.000 [notice] Circuit handshake stats since last time: 0/0 TAP, 6/6 NTor. May 16 00:23:50.000 [notice] Since startup, we have initiated 0 v1 connections, 0 v2 connections, 0 v3 connections, and 8 v4 connections; and received 1 v1 connections, 0 v2 connections, 0 v3 connections, and 6 v4 connections. May 16 00:23:50.000 [notice] DoS mitigation since startup: 0 circuits rejected, 0 marked addresses. 0 connections closed. 0 single hop clients refused. May 16 00:58:51.000 [warn] Received http status code 404 ("Not found") from server '45.62.242.212:9030' while fetching consensus directory. I also had another thing I wanted to ask. I am working on a crontab script to automatically update and restart the tor relay once a month automatically, as I am already running a bridge on another network that needs to be updated manually. Does this script look like it would get the job done? I don't have much experience with crontab. # m h dom mon dow command 0 0 1 * * apt-get update apt update && apt install -y --only-upgrade tor killall tor tor root@instance-1:/home/keifer_bly# Thank you very much. --Keifer

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Tor relay operator meetup in Mexico
by Jacobo Nájera 18 May '19

18 May '19

Hi We have our first relay operator meeting in Mexico, next week. More details here: https://blog.torproject.org/events/reunion-de-operadoras-y-operadores-mexico Thanks, Jacobo

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Email Blocked by ISP
by K. Besig 17 May '19

17 May '19

I've run a home relay on and off for several years and recently, for the first time, had my email blocked by the ISP rendering it impossible to login into my 3rd party mail sever. When I contacted support I was informed my email password had been reset due to activity that resembled e-bombing/mass mailing. Only after submitting to a system scan while the rep waited on the phone,was I able to reset my password. I moved several months ago and went from a TWC legacy account to a Spectrum account. Wondering if anything other than lowering my tor bandwidth would keep them off my back...

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Consensus-health - Guard flag
by lists＠for-privacy.net 08 May '19

08 May '19

Hello, I do not understand why relay A751D8BEE222564B7BA657F74B6658836FF1AEEA does not get a guard status. A few weeks ago I set AccountingMax on this relay. This is off for about 3 weeks. All servers are configured the same. https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/TorOrDie4privacyNET -- Ciao Marco!

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Solving World's Tor Users Being Blocked by Websites (was: Tor exit bridges)
by grarpamp 08 May '19

08 May '19

On 5/7/19, nusenu <nusenu-lists(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > juanjo: >> Tor relays are public and easily blocked by IP. To connect to Tor >> network users where Tor is censored have to use bridges and even PTs. >> But, what happens on the exit? Many websites block Tor IPs so using >> it to access "clearweb" is not possible. Should we allow and start >> using "exit bridges"? In I2P we have not this problem since there is >> no central IP list of relays. > > there is no need to extend to one more hope to achieve this > > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-March/013036.html > > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2019-May/017273.html It's possible to augment such outbound solution offerings even further by running an OpenVPN termination service so users can transport UDP between clearnet as well. VPNGate.net project has an idea there too. Even large regional IPv6 pools could be bought and shared by operators and rotated through. More tor relay operators should consider some of the above options, whether as a requested "bridge" service mechanism, or listed in the consensus "contact" field, or as more of a standalone VPNGate support, or "ExitGate" project sort of arrangement. Using only tor right now, a user needs to use a clearnet service that does not scrape consensus, or one not fronted by services doing similar to CloudFlare's spiteful default tor blocking policy, or find a lucky exit within whatever geolocation game the clearnet service uses, or get lucky through traditional vpn or proxy. But those are only fun statistical hacks, not real long term solutions to the underlying problem. It's unfortunate that such braindead blocking, stupid policy regimes, sites refusal to developing creative solutions [1] for so many world's users legitimate privacy, info risk, anonymity needs... often results in users accounts being locked out and escalated into forcing disclosure of users private info and ID to sites to unlock them, thus exposing users to ongoing long term fraud, cost, and stress when that info (in most cases truly unnecessary to collect) is eventually shared misused and stolen by both sites and criminals... or outright auto deletion of user's valued account, built up social networks, etc... all for doing nothing wrong, and harming no one or thing. Death by DriveByExit :( And really shameful to deny world's users the right to simply read a website, be it social, commercial, information, etc or even sadly their own tax-theft funded governmental public sites doing this blocking too. There are some related projects, best practice, as well... https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/projects/WeSupportTor https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/projects/DontBlockMe https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-access Positive outreach and direct engagement by Tor community is key here, and perhaps not enough of that is happening, at least not publicly. It's a big enough issue that it really needs a dedicated, active, allied, and even funded subproject... a MegaProject that needs to happen. [1] Such as forfeitable cryptocurrency and mailed-in cash deposits refundable in time, increasing account priviledges and features based on account age and activity, community moderation and behaviour support within the sites, opensource third party tracking-free local SecurImage style captcha throughout a sites features, privacy preserving non-SMS non-Google/Apple pure TOTP authenticator protocols, PGP recovery, letting users simply *read* websites without any hindrance, while utilizing these methods only for *write* operations, etc and so many more ways you can envision... Cc'd for awareness and inclusion. *Please remove tor-dev and tor-relays, and move this to tor-talk or tor-access for ongoing discussion and progress. Thanks.

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Pool of IP Addresses
by amytain 06 May '19

06 May '19

Is it possible to have a pool of ip addresses as the outbound ip addresses instead of just one?

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dhcp lease question
by torix＠protonmail.com 06 May '19

06 May '19

Yesterday I put in a new router for my home connexion to Verizon. Up until now, I've had to bring down my router for 18 hours or so for me to get a new ip address, so this has never really come up before. But I noticed in the new interface that my dhcp lease from Verizon is only 2 hours long. I have had 5 or 6 ip changes that I noticed, and found my relay starting all over again this morning, building up its connexions again. I'm hoping that Verizon will settle down and start renewing my ip address instead of giving me another every few hours, but of course I don't know if their pool of addresses is running low and they are scrambling or what. Any thoughts? I don't think I can continue with my home relay in good conscience if people are getting kicked off several times a day. TIA, --Torix Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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unique .onion addresses decreasing a lot
by nusenu 06 May '19

06 May '19

Have a look at this graph: https://metrics.torproject.org/hidserv-dir-onions-seen.html?start=2019-02-0… Is this a measurement issue or did some major application migrate to v3 onion services? -- https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu

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Concern Over Bridge Distribution And Tor Updates
by Keifer Bly 05 May '19

05 May '19

Hello, So I am aware a new version of tor is now available, but am wondering, is there a way for relay / bridge operators to be notified when a new version of tor is available? Right now, it seems like the only way of knowing if an update for tor is available for our OS is to manually check. Thanks. I also wanted to say, I noticed that an available email provider to request bridges from is Yahoo Mail. Here’s my thought, Yahoo (alongside AOL) was bought by Verizon, so they are now owned by a phone carrier / ISP. This makes me wonder if Yahoo is still a safe email provider to send bridges to, seeing as their new privacy policy is essentially allowing them to use emails as public knowledge. Just a thought. Thanks all. --Keifer

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Support tunneling
by amytain 05 May '19

05 May '19

Would it be possible to support gre tunneling for the inbound IP for the exit and outbound ips? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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Anti-Sybil (re: Explain... all the Nodes)
by grarpamp 03 May '19

03 May '19

On 5/2/19, Herbert Karl Mathé <mail(a)hkmathe.de> wrote: > I strongly believe certain issues need be brought up into conscious, and > into presence: into discussion, actually. > > Therefore appreciating this as it might fit too well into context > > Keeping things below surface, or trying so, has too often proven to be a > very bad idea as these will come up sooner or later anyway, then with much > higher magnitude. Even worse, trust is then destroyed. As said before, the category of Anti Sybil Web of Trust Projects needs considered, and could even cover such speculative subjects. It's not about analysing the meta of one node or one operator, even if a true positive hit, in general the yield is approximately zero percent of any overlay network's nodes, it's about stepping back and agnostically analysing them all. Go investigate and collate all the possible meta informations... Node location, payment, OS, ISP, uptimes, anon / nym / PGP / GovID, workplace, politic, blogs, whatever else you can imagine, including incorporating what's already in the consensus, contact, MyFamily, nickname, both real world and virtual infos, operator to operator p2p Web of Trust... No node has to supply any infos. Put it all in a db and give users tools to select node sets. Some users might select State's, or State's workers or even Statist's nodes, over say anon nodes, as maybe they feel they have to play by some "rules" that anon nodes don't. Others might reject operators that post stupid pics on Facebook. Or all Ubuntu relays. Or nodes that engage in free speech they don't like, some in Tor Project would love that selector, lol. It doesn't matter, it's a meta project, with it you can accept or reject on whatever whim you wish by node fingerprints in your client. And if the Sybil WoT project ends up discovering some interesting potential threats classes among the entire node set, you win. Until then, you are potentially missing all of that, and are not raising Sybil's costs of doing business by forcing them to expend much resource into playing real world Web of Trust against users who might select to use various positive-meta-ranking and or WoT structures. Right now Sybil's cost is only a little hosting. If not, you can still report bad exits and other actual technical node and traffic mangling to tor-relays and or bad-relays, at least until someone DHT's or otherwise distributes tor away from the more centralized DA design. Note that Tor's architecture does not protect much against Global Passive Adversary of NSA style fiber Vampires, that threat does not require Sybil nodes, nor do they have to be Global or Govt, even Tier-N backbones can tap, analyse, and do nefarious things like and with that, including sell, give, and partner it all away. Though they can and do run Sybil nodes to help inject, manipulate, block, see, etc traffic, nodes, and clients. On flip perspective, maybe you really don't want to develop WoT's and such, simply because enabling creeping featureism of it all can lead to exclusivity and control whereby valuable anon diversity is selected away from and purged. That would be very bad. Either way, other than the usual design, protocol, code, and "Lawfare" exploit space, and the coming Quantum Compute adversary, Sybil and Vampire are likely todays biggest remaining threats to overlay networks. None of todays networks seem to be trying to do anything to stop Sybil, and only a few networks put Vampire as any sort of priority [1]. While Vampire may perhaps be solved with some technical measures, Sybil may require some sort sort of human based measures. [1] Curiously, cryptocurrencies do employ Anti-Sybil in various proofs of work (adversary cost raising), and can help defund Vampires.

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[tor-talk] Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus
by Stirling Newberry 03 May '19

03 May '19

> I met Conrad online in September 2013, not long after the Washington Navy Yard shootings. Which is how I remember when. He mentioned that he was serving in the Navy then. And I vaguely recall that he's posted on Tor lists about the military using Tor. So you met Conrad on Grindr in September 2013, not long after he was supposed of been shot by the Washington Navy Yard shooter? Did you tell him during the Grindr date that he was lucky to be alive so he could bring us Greypony? I wish the shooter would of killed him because Conrad deserves to be dead because of the hell the Greypony project brought us since 2013. Was he top or were you top? Did you suck or did he suck? or did you both suck? Did you do a good little rim afterwards? Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

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ALL GREYPONY SERVERS ARE OPEN FOR DDOS
by Stirling Newberry 03 May '19

03 May '19

ATTENTION GREYPONY USERS ALL GREYPONY EXITS WILL BE TARGETED FOR DDOS. THIS REQUEST HAS COME FROM PRETTY HIGH UP. GAME OVER BITCHES. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE DONE. LOIC WILL BE USED TO TARGET THE NODES. DON'T SAY YOU WERENT WARNED YOU STUPID SACKS OF FAGGOT SHIT. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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A forwarded response
by Anonymous Tormaster 03 May '19

03 May '19

I don't believe it's right that trolls get the right to basically accuse Conrad of violating the principles of the Tor network just because he wants to offer donation based FreeBSD VMs to run Tor Exits. He has stated that he is unable to post to the lists and he is not being provided a reason on why he is unable to post to the lists. I can understand somewhat that he might be advertising but I don't understand why he's publicly reprimanded then banished yet now we're allowing people to trash someone who has actually contributed somewhat decently to this community. This action or inaction is disgusting and unacceptable and fosters and unwelcoming and hostile user climate all because Conrad wanted to HELP. So I'm including his full reply he sent me and I'm sending it anonymously because that's what seems to be popular these days: Hello, I'm sure that this original email was a personal attack and trolling, but given that it has aroused some interest in some of the emails I have received off-list, and the fact that Herbert did make the comment that keeping things below the surface may destroy trust, I will answer your points in question, Mr. Revolution. > You worked at the National Reconnaissance Office of the United States which is the most secretive branch of the United States Intelligence Community > You worked at the Naval Security Group Activity which is the United States Navy's version of the National Security Agency I was previously stationed at the NRO/SPAWAR Washington DC and Temporarily Attached to NSGA/NIOC and NRL on several occasions while I was on Active Duty in the Navy. I was stationed at various places, attached to various commands, served in various capacities and I haven't kept my previous affiliation with the US Government a secret by any means at all. I have no reason to, in fact, I'm very proud of what I've done in service of my country. That being said, I've been retired from Active Duty as of February 25, 2015 and in civilian employment since and I haven't had any employment affiliated with any government agency. This point is kind of moot. I've never kept my Naval Service Hidden, in fact, I brought it up as examples of Government/Military uses of Tor on the mailing list. > You have a Security Clearance but you don't specify what type but I wonder why someone with a SECURITY CLEARANCE would want to work with Tor My security clearance serves no purpose at this point other than making criminal background checks easier and allowing me, as a cybersecurity professional, easier trusted access through organizations that utilize the Federal Government's security clearance adjudicative standards the ability to grant me access faster. This point is moot. > Teor called you out months ago as a US Government Spy and I'm glad that the Tor Community Council is calling you out with. People can post all of the advertising in the world but as long as you're called out Mr US Federal Government Spy then they're doing the right thing. I have no idea what you're talking about with Teor, I do know that when a bunch of the users of the previous iteration of GreyPony were posting about their relay speeds and what not he asked for the list to remain on topic, but I don't remember any pointed calls of Teor accusing me ever being a US Government Spy. I don't care for the Tor Community Council, because I believe it's quite odd of them to repeatedly condemn me yet be completely chill with this. Strange. > You are probably trying to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD stuff that no one cares about anyway. You should probably do a little research on how BSD operating systems, especially FreeBSD or HardenedBSD work, to realize how impossible it is for this to work. FreeBSD it's hard, HardenedBSD, I think it's about impossible, but I like the fact you're reaching who shot JFK? levels in your analysis here. > If people cared about more FreeBSD on Tor they would do it but obviously it's not a big issue!!! You see, people do care, because what's going to prevent the big bad spies like me from finding that exploit in all of the cool l33t Ubuntu b0xes you're running Tor on and bringing down 2/3s of the overlay network? That's why we have network diversification to prevent such a failure - if there's a bug or an anomaly that effects Linux for example, it won't effect the BSD, MacOS, and Windows relays, and we'll still have a functioning overlay network. That's the point of diversification. That's the point of promoting it. I'm sorry that you don't want to see that, but that's what it is - we have the resources up to prevent a problem prior to a problem occuring. > It's not a big issue to spin up our Hetzner exits at least we know that a spy not you isnt doing it!!! Cool, and when Hetzner finally decides to pull the plug on Tor exits because they had enough, what then? It never hurts to try to diversify AS assets either. Your characterization of me being a spy is completely illogical because if I were to act in such a capacity, I would just do it. I have the bandwidth to do it, I don't need people to do it for me, I would just set up relays and go for it. The question is - what would I be spying on? I mean, you make it sound like that the exit operator has the full picture in his/her view....except they don't. I see connections from other relays. Oh, don't we default to HTTPS-Everywhere in the Tor Browser package as well by the way? What exactly am I trying to spy on Mr. Revolution? In the end, here's what I think is going on. Several newbies started using GreyPony. Everything was fine, in fact, there was support for it on the mailing list until they started bragging about speeds in excess of 1 Gbit/s. Then the following things occurred (and if you look back at the mailing list history, you can see this): 1. There were complaints that said newbies were lying about their exit relay speeds, even though speeds are measured by the bwauths, so user reported speed really doesn't matter anymore, so this wasn't a valid complaint. 2. There were complaints that the relays should all be in the same MyFamily, even though we don't expect relays hosted on OVH, Hetzner, etc. to be reported on the same MyFamily, after all, I didn't have access to any of these relays, so this wasn't a valid complaint, as I was just hosting the relays. 3. Excess traffic was being generated about GreyPony, which Teor asked everyone to stop bringing up GreyPony until October because of all of it. This was a valid complaint. Due to all of the newbie bragging and honestly, because I was proud of the fact that I was helping out several people, I let myself get out of hand and replied to the emails as well, so I understood and cooled it. Now, again, I wind up back in the hospital, things go a little south for the project because I'm not around, but I come back and the project is ready to start again. Now GreyPony is back to the way that we originally intended it to be - a donation only project to provide FreeBSD/HardenedBSD exits to Tor. Most of the same guys that were running relays with the original one want to come back to the new one, plus some new people. I'm sorry that people wanting to help the Tor network by providing high performance FreeBSD Exit Relays angers you and some other of your fellow travellers so much. If it makes you happy, the project will go on with or with out your support.

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How Greypony fucks everyone over
by Stirling Newberry 03 May '19

03 May '19

Greypony just attracts a bunch of script kiddies who have no business running HS relays. All of those morons that run instances with Greypony are lazy and cheap who don't want to pay for server colocation and don't want to pay their dues on their mailing list or by getting known. This isn't a welcoming community don't you get it!!!! You earn your keep and when youre granted the ability and permission to run an exit they will grant you the permission to run the EXIT. Obviously Conrad doesn't deserve his Freedom of Speech on here because it's the torproject's property and they can take it away from him. He doesn't deserve to speak because he's probably a closeted homosexual given the fact that he was in the Navy. No one cares about Greypony or freebsd Conrad. Just give it up. Greypony is like the crap that gets stuck in your dick after you're done vigorously fucking a girl in the ass for 10 hours. You'll get a sliver of impacted shit on your dick and that's Greypony a sliver of annoying impacted shit. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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Re: [tor-relays] [tor-talk] Tor diversity (was: Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus)
by René Ladan 02 May '19

02 May '19

Op do 2 mei 2019 09:43 schreef Tor Revolution < isupportthenewrevolution(a)protonmail.com>: > You are probably trying to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD > stuff that no one cares about anyway. If people cared about more FreeBSD on > Tor they would do it but obviously it's not a big issue!!! > Ignoring half-baked accusations against Conrad for now. Having relays running something else than Ubuntu *is* an important issue. This does not have to be FreeBSD/HardenedBSD, it can also be OpenBSD/NetBSD, MacOS, or even Windows. The point is that if someone (say the NSA) discovers a bug in Ubuntu which they can use to take over relays, and 95% (or so) of the relays run Ubuntu, then they can take over Tor. If a significant part of the relays run something else, then those relays are safe for the exploit and consequently becomes harder for the NSA to take over Tor. As for why 95% of the relays runs on Ubuntu, I guess it is legacy. At least https://support.torproject.org/#operators advertises multiple operating systems. See also https://torbsd.github.io/ René (running "ymkeo" on FreeBSD for almost 5 years now)

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Re: [tor-relays] [tor-talk] Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus
by Tor Revolution 02 May '19

02 May '19

> This is another reminder to please keep posts on-topic and civil. > > This is not the place for personal attacks. > The sooner that the Tor community is rid of this filth known as "Conrad Rockenhaus" the sooner people will stop talking about him. Why are you defending him? > > > On 2 May 2019, at 09:43, Tor Revolution isupportthenewrevolution(a)protonmail.com wrote: > > Per your LinkedIn: > > You worked at the National Reconnaissance Office of the United States which is the most secretive branch of the United States Intelligence Community > > You worked at the Naval Security Group Activity which is the United States Navy's version of the National Security Agency > > You have a Security Clearance but you don't specify what type but I wonder why someone with a SECURITY CLEARANCE would want to work with Tor > > Teor called you out months ago as a US Government Spy and I'm glad that the Tor Community Council is calling you out with. People can post all of the advertising in the world but as long as you're called out Mr US Federal Government Spy then they're doing the right thing. You are probably trying to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD stuff that no one cares about anyway. If people cared about more FreeBSD on Tor they would do it but obviously it's not a big issue!!! It's not a big issue to spin up our Hetzner exits at least we know that a spy not you isnt doing it!!! > > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > -- > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

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Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus
by Tor Revolution 02 May '19

02 May '19

Per your LinkedIn: You worked at the National Reconnaissance Office of the United States which is the most secretive branch of the United States Intelligence Community You worked at the Naval Security Group Activity which is the United States Navy's version of the National Security Agency You have a Security Clearance but you don't specify what type but I wonder why someone with a SECURITY CLEARANCE would want to work with Tor Teor called you out months ago as a US Government Spy and I'm glad that the Tor Community Council is calling you out with. People can post all of the advertising in the world but as long as you're called out Mr US Federal Government Spy then they're doing the right thing. You are probably trying to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD stuff that no one cares about anyway. If people cared about more FreeBSD on Tor they would do it but obviously it's not a big issue!!! It's not a big issue to spin up our Hetzner exits at least we know that a spy not you isnt doing it!!! Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

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SENDME CELL
by marziyeh latifi 30 Apr '19

30 Apr '19

Hello, I have two questions about SENDME cell in TOR: Is SENDME a Control cell or a Relay cell? Which node does interpret SENDME cells?The node that receives them or the edge node(client/exit)? thanks

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