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openBSD question.
by sharon dvir 12 Oct '12

12 Oct '12

sorry to bother you guys, and i hope its not a dumb repeated question. but which of the two following options is preferred for an exit node on openBSD? - run the Tor package available through the openBSD repositories, which is 2.2.35 but probably been reviewed by the openBSD team. or - compile and use 2.2.39 which is not as obsolete? thanks

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interesting sequence of messages
by Scott Bennett 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

I'm running 0.2.4.3-alpha and had to restart it during the night due to a system crash. As it was starting up, it put out the following sequence of messages. Oct 08 00:38:44.616 [notice] We now have enough directory information to build circuits. Oct 08 00:38:44.616 [notice] Bootstrapped 80%: Connecting to the Tor network. Oct 08 00:38:45.728 [notice] Bootstrapped 85%: Finishing handshake with first hop. Oct 08 00:38:46.130 [notice] Self-testing indicates your ORPort is reachable from the outside. Excellent. Publishing server descriptor. Oct 08 00:38:46.359 [notice] Bootstrapped 90%: Establishing a Tor circuit. Oct 08 00:38:48.930 [notice] Our directory information is no longer up-to-date enough to build circuits: We have only 1868/2874 usable descriptors. Oct 08 00:38:48.930 [notice] I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit: We have only 1868/2874 usable descriptors. Oct 08 00:38:49.495 [notice] Tor has successfully opened a circuit. Looks like client functionality is working. Oct 08 00:38:49.495 [notice] Bootstrapped 100%: Done. Oct 08 00:38:49.830 [notice] I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit: We have only 1917/2874 usable descriptors. Oct 08 00:38:50.062 [notice] I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit: We have only 2013/2874 usable descriptors. Oct 08 00:38:50.142 [notice] I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit: We have only 2108/2874 usable descriptors. Oct 08 00:38:50.229 [notice] We now have enough directory information to build circuits. Oct 08 00:38:51.476 [notice] Self-testing indicates your DirPort is reachable from the outside. Excellent. Oct 08 00:39:03.079 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done. The above really are nothing new, but just a really clear example of the screwiness of some common messages. In particular, the "no longer up-to-date enough to build circuits" and "learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit" messages apparently are issued at times and under conditions contrary to the textual content of those messages. Let's examine the sequence shown above. 1) tor claims to have enough information to build a circuit. 2) It begins doing so by establishing the first hop of a testing circuit. 3) The testing circuit connects to my tor's own ORPort, so... 4) it builds a circuit to publish a descriptor and publishes it. 5) In less than 5 seconds from the time tor had enough directory information to build circuits, enough of that information has expired that tor no longer can build circuits. 6) tor fetches some descriptors, but still claims not to be able to build circuits. 7) tor announces that it has build a client-side circuit and pronounces that its startup is 100% complete. 8) tor continues to fetch three more batches of descriptors, saying that it still needs more to be able to build circuits, even after having claimed to have just built another one. I conclude from the above that the text of the messages claiming not to have enough directory information to build circuits is in error and should be revised to reflect the actual situation and events more accurately. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * **********************************************************************

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Problems Setting up Bridge Relay on AWS
by freeflow＠mail.md 07 Oct '12

07 Oct '12

Hi! I recently set up a bridge relay on my home broadband connection. Unfortunately my ISP is restricting bandwidth during what it refers to as "peak hours", usually between 16:00 & 00:00 each day. This is obviously having a detrimental affect on my bridge relay as both upstream & downstream bandwidth is severely limited during these times. So I decided to set up a bridge relay on AWS, using the documentation at https://cloud.torproject.org/#get_started During the set-up process I've experienced 2 separate problems which I've described below. These are the actions I've taken: 1) I've successfully registered my account with AWS. 2) I've navigated my web browser to https://cloud.torproject.org/#get_started 3) At the above mentioned web page I've chosen: Obfsproxy Bridges (required ports: 22, 443, 52176) eu-west-1-Ireland 4) The pre-configured image is selected, and I'm directed to the AWS Management Console. When I arrive on the AWS Management Console page my web browser (Firefox 15.0.1) presents me with a "Warning: Unresponsive Script" dialogue box. The dialogue box explains, "A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. Script: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images [snip]... I chose to persevere & clicked "Continue" on the "Warning: Unresponsive Script" dialogue box. After being presented with another "Warning: Unresponsive Script" dialogue box I arrive at the "Choose an AMI" pane of the "Request Instances Wizard" which displays the pre-configured settings. It's at this stage that I begin to get confused... I've attempted to use the "Step-by-Step" instructions provided at https://cloud.torproject.org/#get_started The "Step-by-Step" instructions state, "Simply follow the steps as illustrated below, and your bridge will up and running in just a couple of minutes." With regard to the "Choose an AMI" pane the "Step-by-Step" instructions suggest, "Click "Continue". (No changes needed here.)" There doesn't appear to be an option to continue beyond the first pane (Choose an AMI), the only available option that I can see is to cancel (top right corner of the Choose an AMI/Request Instances Wizard pane). This takes me to the "Amazon EC2 Console Dashboard". However, because nothing has been set up, the EC2 Console Dashboard quite correctly informs me that there are no instances running. On the left-hand side of the Amazon EC2 Console Dashboard is the "Navigation" pane listing "Instances" & "Images" (including AMIs). So, I can see some of the required components that are incorporated into the "Request Instances Wizard" but I lack the experience to set up my AWS manually. So, more confusion! On the plus side the Amazon EC2 Console Dashboard does inform me that I've selected my chosen region which it reports is up & running. Maybe a "Continue" option isn't being displayed in the "Choose an AMI" pane because of the above-mentioned "Unresponsive Script" dialogue box, or maybe there's some other way to move through the "Request Instances Wizard" that I'm unaware of? I'm currently running java version 1.7.0_07 from Oracle Corporation on 12.04.1 LTS precise. I have no experience of setting up anything like an AWS so any help would be much appreciated & hopefully I can succeed in setting up my bridge relay! Best regards!

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Re: [tor-relays] [tor-talk] clockskewer attack
by Eugen Leitl 04 Oct '12

04 Oct '12

----- Forwarded message from Ted Smith <tedks(a)riseup.net> ----- From: Ted Smith <tedks(a)riseup.net> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:09:00 -0400 To: Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> Cc: cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net Subject: Re: [tor-talk] clockskewer attack The "attack" assumes that the targeted hidden service is running a Tor relay. On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 16:52 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Webmaster <webmaster(a)felononline.info> ----- > > From: Webmaster <webmaster(a)felononline.info> > Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:50:02 -0400 > To: tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org, tor-relays-request(a)lists.torproject.org > Subject: [tor-talk] clockskewer attack > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; > rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 > Reply-To: tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org > > Found some interesting news on reddit. I dont know the tech behind it, > but is sounds like playing with Clock allows you to get the IP address of > the hidden service > > http://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/10usgv/clock_skewing_a_clever_uncon… > > http://pastebin.com/PfXUm3VQ > > > Is this something to be worried about? > _______________________________________________ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Sent from Ubuntu ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

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Fwd: Ongoing, repetitive, flooding and abuse on Usenet newsgroup ba.broadcast from your site
by Michael Renner 02 Oct '12

02 Oct '12

Hi List, I run a relay-only and an exit node without too much hassle, today I received this mail and am not too sure what to make out of it. A fellow requests that I shall block access to Google Groups because somebody is using Tor to spam groups there. My gut feeling is that if they know the identity of this fellow they should just go the legal route and be done with it. Any opinions/insights from your side? all the best, Michael Begin forwarded message: > From: "Paul W. Schleck" <pschleck(a)oasis.novia.net> > Subject: Ongoing, repetitive, flooding and abuse on Usenet newsgroup ba.broadcast from your site > Date: October 2, 2012 2:30:11 GMT+01:00 > To: groups-abuse(a)google.com > Cc: abuse(a)co.at, abuse(a)amd.co.at > > Note to TOR Exit Server maintainers: > > This article is from Google Groups, a third-party news posting site via > http (80 port). I have received replies from other TOR exit server > maintainers that they will temporarily block connectivity to Google > Groups' range of IP addresses, as this kind of repetitive flooding to > deny use of a newsgroup is not free speech, and not what the TOR project > was intended to be used for. The IP addresses for Google Groups are as > follows: > > groups.google.com canonical name = groups.l.google.com. > Name: groups.l.google.com > Address: 74.125.142.102 > Name: groups.l.google.com > Address: 74.125.142.113 > Name: groups.l.google.com > Address: 74.125.142.138 > Name: groups.l.google.com > Address: 74.125.142.139 > Name: groups.l.google.com > Address: 74.125.142.100 > Name: groups.l.google.com > Address: 74.125.142.101 > > Name: googlegroups.com > Address: 74.125.142.99 > Name: googlegroups.com > Address: 74.125.142.103 > Name: googlegroups.com > Address: 74.125.142.104 > Name: googlegroups.com > Address: 74.125.142.105 > Name: googlegroups.com > Address: 74.125.142.106 > Name: googlegroups.com > Address: 74.125.142.147 > > Google Groups would otherwise have to implement blocking of your exit > nodes to stop this flooder. The security practices of sites under my > control are fine, including blocking of all TOR exit servers. > > The article quoted below is one of thousands over the past year. I can > send you far worse examples, if required. A good sampling of the > perpetrator's mental state, and criminal record, may be found at: > > http://www.smbtech.com/ras/ > > This is some voluminous, off-topic flooding and harassment on the > ba.broadcast Usenet newsgroup. It is being reported to abuse reporting > mailboxes based on the contents of the NNTP-Posting-Host: and > X-Complaints-To: headers, and lookup of the originating IP address via > WHOIS and the Network Abuse Clearinghouse. They are sometimes also > crossposted to unrelated newsgroups such as rec.arts.tv, > soc.culture.new-zealand, and several other newsgroups in the nz.* > hierarchy. It is disruptive, and completely off-topic, as well as > causing disruptive, cascaded flame wars among those unrelated > newsgroups. > > This user has also been posting from other sources, including 100tb.com, > 31173.se, 51.net, 62.net, all.de, armax.me, artelco.com, bahnhof.se, > bigkitten.net, boingboing.net, broadviewnet.net, bu.edu, ccc.de, co.at, > coolhousing.net, creekcabin.com, dfri.se, exit.de, einteilung.at, > finalhosting.cz, formlessnetworking.net, ghst.net, hessmo.com, > hexhost.net, ib.de, ipredator.se, mydev.net, noisetor.net, oceanic.net, > ovh.net, plebia.org, ovh.net, privacyfoundation.ch, privacyrepublic.org, > progressbar.sk, riseup.net, ru.is, sbcglobal.net, scnet.net, > servers.com, snydernet.net, solidonetworks.com, stanford.edu, > stargrave.org, techfixuk.com, torland.is, torland.me, torservers.net, > trolling.me, dmzglobal.com, telstraclear.net, xtra.co.nz, clear.net.nz, > orcon.net.nz, netgate.net.nz, freeparking.co.nz, powerusenet.com, > giganews.com, thundernews.com, altopia.com, comcast.net, > groups.google.com, and tigerusenet.com. It appears that you are merely > the latest of his victims. > > The charter of ba.broadcast is as follows: > > "This group is here for discussions, comments and program reminders > about broadcast media in the San Francisco Bay Area, both radio and > television. It also includes cable systems and TVRO/BCRO in the SF Bay > Area. It does not include scanner, ham radio or other action here in > the SF Bay Area; these may be addressed in another newsgroup at another > time. Issues of national interest should be posted to one of the groups > in rec.arts.tv or rec.radio." > > (see: http://groups.google.com/group/ba.broadcast/browse_thread/thread/ddfbd8175e…) > > The charter does not include sexual innuendo and libel, abusive threats, > bigotry and minority bashing, or any off-topic discussion of subjects > not reasonably related to broadcasting in the Bay Area, which now > consitute the overwhelming majority of current message traffic on > ba.broadcast, to the detriment and exclusion of on-topic participation > by others. > > Please take appropriate action to put a stop this this misbehavior > originating from your site that is disrupting ba.broadcast. > > > Offending article follows: > > > Received: by 10.224.223.84 with SMTP id ij20mr14306706qab.5.1349116799161; > Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:39:59 -0700 (PDT) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: by 10.224.33.136 with SMTP id h8mr4922241qad.1.1349116799065; Mon, > 01 Oct 2012 11:39:59 -0700 (PDT) > Path: novia.net!newscene!newscene.com!novia!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!209.85.216.87.MISMATCH!l8no19978676qao.0!news-out.google.com!e10ni152738478qan.0!nntp.google.com!l8no19978674qao.0!postnews.google.com!l18g2000vbv.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,alt.radio.talk,alt.radio.broadcasting,alt.sports.football.pro.sf-49ers,alt.sports.football.pro.oak-raiders > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:39:58 -0700 (PDT) > Complaints-To: groups-abuse(a)google.com > Injection-Info: l18g2000vbv.googlegroups.com; posting-host=212.232.24.57; posting-account=amCOWAkAAABZSaz2UHdaAM8n23Z-gMLO > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.232.24.57 > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > X-HTTP-Useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0,gzip(gfe) > Message-ID: <95a49153-6779-42a1-802a-fd3a121c872b(a)l18g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> > Subject: JEW: Layer 42 Inc. (Mtn. View) KAITLYN RUBIN: Satanic Ritual Abuse > (S.R.A.) S.teve R.ubin A.irplanes .^ > From: "Jose' Scott Satanist Drug Dealer Outlaw [kzsu fm]" <zyklon_bozo(a)yahoo.com> > Injection-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:39:59 +0000 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Xref: novia.net ba.broadcast:285031 alt.radio.talk:296685 alt.radio.broadcasting:60948 alt.sports.football.pro.sf-49ers:539274 alt.sports.football.pro.oak-raiders:296436 > > Layer 42 Inc. (Mtn. View) > Steve Rubin Satanic Ritual Abuse > Kaitlyn Rubin (daughter) and clear case of > child abuse, neglect and well known worldwide > satanic JEW child pedophilia "faith" racket: > > Steve Rubin (CEO President) > Layer 42 Inc. > Mountain View California > > Rubin's Abused Child: > > http://www.exorcist.org.nz/kaitlyn-whothehellareyou_1.jpg > http://www.exorcist.org.nz/kaitlyn_scabs_bruises_parched.bmp > > THAT LOOK OF TERROR IN THE YOUNG GIRL'S FACE (below) > > KAITLYN RUBIN: > * Bruises > * Swollen Lips > * Snot Filled Nose > * Multiple Marks On Face > * Beatings > * Domestic Violence Against Children > * Sexual Abuse (see below about jews \ pedophilia) > > Steve Rubin (CEO President) > Layer 42 Inc. > Mountain View California > > Steve Rubin also owns a small airplane, which coincides > with the facts that have been released involving the McMartin > Pre-School child abuse scandal years ago. The facts > un-covered prove that the children were actually flown by > a small airplane to a location in the mountains and then > Satanic Ritual Abuse (S.R.A.) occured, and then the > children were flown back to the Pre-School prior > to being picked-up by the parents. > > Steve Rubin's closest friends are admitted and proven > luciferians (satanists) > > THE LUCIFERIAN CONSPIRATORS > http://www.exorcist.org.nz/citizen_cohn_luciferian_higdon_byrd.html > > "Eric Conspiracy" > http://www.catb.org/~esr/ecsl/ > > ------------------------------------- > > From Webpage: > http://www.exorcist.org.nz/music_mafias.html > > It just so happens that an anti-christ styled JEW, named : > > S t e v e R u b i n > > who happens to work for Napster (world-wide piracy), who was so > offended that I & I offered criticism of the whole pirate now > so-called "company" of thieves, Napster. Once again, a JEW is > involved in is involved in filthy ill-gotten monies, filthy lucre, > from another, evil JEW in the music scene, and this time it is > the cold-blooded terrorist JEW named Steve Rubin, who is > stalking me personally, both at work and and at my residence. > I feel like Jesus (Y'shua) Christ sometimes, when evil luciferian > satanic JEWS (Revelation 2:9) are trying their best to smear > I & I, to stop I from witnessing to the JEW conspiracy alive > like a satanic (Revelation2:9) monster, after having killed > Jesus (Y'shua) Christ. . . > > Steve Rubin had published, publicly, and cached by Google, > photos of his own daughter Kaitlyn, on his web-page. > > The only problem for Steve Rubin (evil JEW spirit of anti-Christ), > is that the photo below shows clearly that neglect is rampant > in the Rubin "household". . . . where "daddy" Steve Rubin, the > evil anti-christ who is stalking me personally, and taking pride > in his small private airplane that he bothers the South Bay of > Santa Clara Valley, etc. with the noisey engines. You have all > heard them before . . . the noisey private planes, and of course > all of the accidents caused by private piloted aircraft. With > the knowledge that the JEWS who owned, leased Bldg. 7 of the > World Trade Center, and did "pull-it", whereby it came down, > and wasn't hit by the planes . . . where also a group of Israelis > were caught filming the whole 911 event, were arrested and > then released. > > I am deeply concerned, when a JEW TERRORIST like Steve > Rubin, who is hunting me down, making I & I feel like I am > Jesus or something . . . . a JEW conspiracy, > and a JEW TERRORIST, like Steve Rubin, who has access > to an airplane, could of course be so crazy as to attempt > another infamous airplane terror event, once again staged > by the JEWS ! > > Steve Rubin's daughter Kaitlyn, with picture below, definately > shows neglect, and most poignantly, the inability for a JEW to > fight the urge to buy a Kleenex (too cheap JEW) for his own > daughter . . . . but rather, it is more likely that he is just a > S H I T T Y " F A T H E R ". The pictures tell all. > > Notice if you will, the bruises, sores, cuts, parched and chapped > lips, nostril openings that are completely crusted and not clean > enough for proper breathing, thus Steve Rubin is actually > suffocating his own daughter, by not cleaning the air passages > that lead to the baby's lungs. Parched lips usually means that > the child probably doesn't get enough liquids fed to her also, > yet another case of neglect by a "father" who is probably > playing stupid, and I did say stupid video games, like all > computer dweebs like JEW Steve Rubin actually is. > > --------------- > > The only thing Steve Rubin has ever done in radio, is to turn > on the damn appliance at home, to probably tune-in to > something dark and demonic, like what the JEW Talmud > demand of their leaders, and that is that they, the Jew > leaders, rabbis, MUST BE SORCERERS. > More on that, below ! > > Evil JEW Steve Rubin, who is on a warpath against I & I, > because he is a miserable, evil, terrorist (with plane), that > has tried his best to hunt me down, like some Pharisee Jew > hunting Jesus (Y'shua) Christ . . . > > What is funny is that JEW Steve Rubin, would most likely > rail against and attack the philosophy and practice of > suffocating Jews in the bogus German showers of WW2. > > --When in all actuality, it is - > --who wants to do things his own way, > --suffocating his own daughter in his own > --method - by blocking her air passages (nose) . > Good going Rubin ! > --Keeping one-self dirty, like a dirty JEW, > --a dirty JEW family, just like the > > VERMIN ANTI-CHRIST YOU ARE RUBIN ! > > How dare you come and test I & I, and try to conspire and > lie about the I, with a smear of lies, coming from a miserable > evil JEW like you Rubin. > > The Talmud (JEW Text) gives complete approval for Adult-Child > Sex. Therefore I want to know where all of those bruises are > coming from. Is the child being sexually abused by Steve Rubin ? > Coming from a "religion" which gives support, and urges such > Adult-Child Sex activity - See Below For Information on the Talmud > and Adult-Child Sex. > > Let's see, we have Steve Rubin who is the spirit of antichrist > "father" who abuses his own daughter (snot nose / parched > lips / bruises / sores) > NEGLECT, who is coming after me, and amazingly labels > the photo that is above of Kaitlyn, " Hell ". I kept the picture > file name intact, exactly how Steve Rubin named his daughter. > http://www.exorcist.org.nz/kaitlyn-whothehellareyou_1.jpg > > Steve Rubin (CEO President) > Layer 42 Inc. > Mountain View, California > http://www.layer42.net/contact/ > > ~ THE FLAME ~ > Steve Rubin Anti-God Anti-Christ Satanist > Layer 42 Inc. Mtn. View, CA > Child Neglect =3D Child Abuse > Jew Sanctioned Regulated Pedophilia > http://www.exorcist.org.nz/music_mafias.html > > ------------------------------------------------ > > JEW REGULATED PEDOPHILIA > (Talmud, Torah, Kabbalah) > > Permits Child-Adult Sex > Talmud law permits sexual intercourse between > children and adults. > > This doctrine is contained in a number of Mishnahs. > Before we examine them, however, it is necessary > that the reader be familiar with the word kethubah. > According to the Soncino Talmud Glossary: > > " KETHUBAH (Lit., 'a written [document]'); (a) a wife's marriage > settlement which she is entitled to recover on her being divorced > or on the death of her husband. The minimum settlement for a virgin > is two hundred zuz, and for a widow remarrying one hundred zuz; > (b) the marriage contract specifying the mutual obligations > between husband and wife and containing the amount of the endowment > and any other special financial obligations assumed by the husband. " > > =97 Babylonian Talmud, Soncino Talmud Glossary > > Zuz is a unit of currency. We see, then, that a dollar (or zuz) > value is put on virginity. > > Now let's look at a Mishnah from Kethuboth 11a: > " MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN (7) HAS HAD SEXUAL > INTERCOURSE WITH (8) A LITTLE GIRL, (9) OR WHEN A SMALL > BOY (10) HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR > [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF > WOOD (11) =97 [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO > HUNDRED [ZUZ] =85 " > > =97 Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kethuboth 11a > > Soncino 1961 Edition, page 57 > The translator, Rabbi Dr. Samuel Daiches, amplifies the text > with footnotes: > " A man who was of age. > Lit., 'who came on'. > Less than three years old. > Less than nine years of age. > Lit., 'One who was injured by wood', as a result of which she > injured the hymen. " > > =97 Rabbi Dr. Daiches > > Let's review the above-cited Mishnah: "When a grown-up man has > had sexual intercourse with a little girl, or when a small boy > has intercourse with a grown-up woman =85" It is obvious that > sex activity between a grown man and a little girl, and between > a grown woman and a little boy, is a part of the woof and the > warp of everyday Talmud life; such relationships, in the eyes > of the Sages, are unremarkable. > There is no prohibition on sexual activity between adults and > young children =97 it is simply regulated. Recall the words of > the Very Reverend the Chief Rabbi of the British Empire, the > late Dr. Joseph Herman Hertz: > > " Religion in the Talmud attempts to penetrate the whole of > human life with the sense of law and right. Nothing human is > in its eyes mean or trivial; everything is regulated and > sanctified by religion. Religious precept and duty accompany > man from his earliest years to the grave and beyond it. > They guide his desires and actions at every moment. " > > =97 Rabbi Dr. Hertz > > Thus, if the Talmud permits girls three years old and younger > to be sexually used by adults, that is the law. The concern of > the Sages is to ensure that the adult is not, technically > speaking, in violation of any of the rules. > > > >

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Re: [tor-relays] tor-relays Digest, Vol 20, Issue 24
by Mike Edwards 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

Hi, thanks all. It looks like the port forwarding is not working. I get the message below when I try the test suggested. I guess it must be something to do with the modem router and when I get a chance I'll try testing if I can get any incoming traffic - not sure how best to do this though...maybe set up an FTP server and try to access it! I'm also thinking of using a proxy. My friend suggested hidemyass.com any other suggestions would be really gratefully received. Thanks again, all really helpful replies. Cheers, M The requested resource could not be loaded. libcurl returned the error: couldn't connect to host

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Directory Port Reachability Test Failed?
by Mike Edwards 29 Sep '12

29 Sep '12

Hi There, I have been keeping a causal eye on Tor for quite a few years now and have been getting more and more worried about the data/meta data that is being collected and the known and unknown micro and macro ways in which it can be used to harm/manipulate individuals, groups and societies. Anyway, last week I got a new Android phone and installed Orbot and then happened to watched the latest Juiced Media Rap News which prompted me to set up Tor on my Linux laptop. Since then I have (for the last few days) been trying to set up a Tor relay to help the community but haven't managed. I have read quite a few guides including the one on the TorProject site (https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en) I'm pretty stuck and hoping someone might be able to help? My hardware set up is: Boradband phone line into > modem router (no wireless and only 1 out going Ethernet port - I have tried login into this box but can't!) plugged in via Eithernet into > Netgear wireless router which communicates over wireless with my > Thinkpad laptop running Ubuntu 12.04 (see a photo my modem router and wireless router set-up here: http://flossnotes.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/tor-relay.html ) I have Tor set up as a relay as per the configuration guide (see screenshots of the "Sharing tab (everything else is default)*. I have set up port forwarding on the Netgear wireless router for ports 9001 and 9030 (see screenshot*). I have stopped my Laptops fire wall using Fire Starter. And, in desperation I have even set-up my laptops IP in the DMZ settings on the Netgear wireless router (see screenshot*) *photos and screen shots here: http://flossnotes.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/tor-relay.html Again in more detail... 1) I have Tor running and my internet traffic from Firefox is going through it. I know this because when I visit: https://check.torproject.org/ I'm met with the message "Congratulations. Your browser is configured to use Tor" and I get these messages in the Tor message log "[Fri Sep 28 14:22:32 2012] The Tor Software is Running - You are currently running version "0.2.3.22-rc (git-4a0c70a817797420)" of the Tor software." "[Fri Sep 28 14:23:28 2012] External IP Address Changed - Tor has determined your relay's public IP address is currently xx.xxx.xx.106. If that is not correct, please consider setting the 'Address' option in your relay's configuration." "[Fri Sep 28 14:23:38 2012] Connected to the Tor Network - We were able to successfully establish a connection to the Tor network. You can now configure your applications to use the Internet anonymously." 2) I have followed the configuring Tor relay guide and get these messages, "[Fri Sep 28 14:23:38 2012] Checking Server Port Reachability - Tor is trying to determine if your relay's server port is reachable from the Tor network by connecting to itself at xx.xxx.xx.106:9001. This test could take several minutes." "[Fri Sep 28 14:43:28 2012] Server Port Reachability Test Failed - Your relay's server port is not reachable by other Tor clients. This can happen if you are behind a router or firewall that requires you to set up port forwarding. If xx.xxx.xx.106:9001 is not your correct IP address and server port, please check your relay's configuration." (I get the same message for port 9030 - Directory) 3) I have configured my Netgear router to forward ports 9001 and 9030 asa per the instructions here: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DIR-655/ 4) I have stopped my laptops firewall. 5) On the Netgear router I have set up my laptops IP to sit outside of the firewall in the "DMZ" so as far as I understand, it should be exposed to all external requests! Sorry for such a long first post. I'm pretty frustrated! Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Mike

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Re: [tor-relays] Directory Port Reachability Test Failed?
by eliaz 29 Sep '12

29 Sep '12

This link may be relevant: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/6979 It relates to what seems to be the same problem, occurring on the latest version (ver .39, TBB for windows). - eli On 9/28/2012 12:48 PM, Mike Edwards wrote: [snip] > "[Fri Sep 28 14:23:28 2012] External IP Address Changed - Tor has > determined your relay's public IP address is currently xx.xxx.xx.106. If > that is not correct, please consider setting the 'Address' option in > your relay's configuration." [snip] > 2) I have followed the configuring Tor relay guide and get these messages, > > "[Fri Sep 28 14:23:38 2012] Checking Server Port Reachability - Tor is > trying to determine if your relay's server port is reachable from the > Tor network by connecting to itself at xx.xxx.xx.106:9001. This test > could take several minutes." > > "[Fri Sep 28 14:43:28 2012] Server Port Reachability Test Failed - Your > relay's server port is not reachable by other Tor clients. This can > happen if you are behind a router or firewall that requires you to set > up port forwarding. If xx.xxx.xx.106:9001 is not your correct IP address > and server port, please check your relay's configuration." > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays [snip]

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about setting up a tor exit node
by esolve esolve 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Hi, I installed tor browser bundle and I want to use vidalia to set up a tor exit node with my computer. However, I have problem in port forwarding, my computer is inside an institute, and I'm not clear about the firewall setting. Is there any method for me to check the firewall setting and make a hole on it? thanks!

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Re: [tor-relays] some questions
by eliaz 26 Sep '12

26 Sep '12

I can't answer your questions, but to help with problems I've been having, can you say which version of the TBB you're running, & on what OS? - eli On 9/24/2012 1:37 PM, esolve esolve wrote: > Hi, all: > > I'm newbee here. I have some questions: > > I'm using tor with vidallia as a TOR client and I use > wireshark/tcpdump to capture the packets, I notice that in vidalia, when > I select "view the network" and in the "connection status" window, I can > see many hosts, I think they are entry nodes which my tor client is > connecting to, so it means there are many circuits established for my > tor client. But the Tor web browser shows that my ip address appears to > be 80.237.226.73, so this is the only exit nodes. So how can I know > which entry node (or circuit) I'm actually using with this exit node? > > The tcp stream between the tor client and the entry node should be > TLS-encrypted, but when I open a web page, I noticed that the stream is > actually TCP not TLS, is there anything wrong? > > > > Beisides, I want to use my computer as an exit node and I use > vidalia to enable it, however, I noticed on the "connection status" > window that many nodes failed to connect to my computer, are there > anything that should be taken care of in setting up an exit node? > > thanks! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > -- gpg: 0x3E346824

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