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April 2026
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Hello everyone,
I am running a few Tor relays on FreeBSD to help diversify the network and use pf as the firewall on my servers to block unwanted traffic.
To reduce the impact of possible future DoS attacks, I want to make use of max-src-conn and max-src-conn-rate to limit a single IP address from creating unlimited TCP states, as well as limit how fast new TCP sessions can be created.
Due to some other relays running up to eight instances per IP address, I don't want to set the limit too low, so legitimate connections aren't accidentally dropped.
So my question to other relay operators using FreeBSD and pf, what values do you use, and ars there other settings I can use to fine tune pf firewall on my Tor relays?
Regards, ZR
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HOPE will be at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan August 14-16 this year.
https://hope.net/
A few of us are planning to be there, and we should at least organize a
relay operators meet up.
Any relay operators on list planning to attend?
g
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Hi hiro,
(sending this directly as well because there appears to be a partial problem with some tor-relays emails not getting delivered (only showing up in the public archive)).
I stumbled on new Quetzalcoatl relays (first seen 2026-04-04) that do not have the family_ids field in the onionoo details document.
The operator confirmed they have happy family configured.
onionoo data shows a family_cert, but no "family_ids".
I've pasted the content below so you can see the data as it was published on 2026-04-05 14:00:00
as it might change over time.
Is this a relay, an onionoo/collector or tor directory auth. issue?
kind regards,
nusenu
example with family_ids (same server, same first_seen):
https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?lookup=9926A0A57D37EDF686362287F4F62…
example without family_ids:
https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?lookup=0B4268CB03FAEF0FBF75D04256573…
{"version":"8.0",
"build_revision":"89598ea",
"relays_published":"2026-04-05 14:00:00",
"relays":[
{"nickname":"Quetzalcoatl","fingerprint":"0B4268CB03FAEF0FBF75D0425657309F095F8F16","or_addresses":["45.88.186.89:7430","[2a12:a800:9:1:45:88:186:89]:7430"],"exit_addresses":["45.88.186.89"],"last_seen":"2026-04-05 14:00:00","last_changed_address_or_port":"2026-04-04 03:00:00","first_seen":"2026-04-04 03:00:00","running":true,"flags":["Exit","Running","V2Dir","Valid"],"country":"us","country_name":"United States of America","as":"AS210558","as_name":"1337 Services GmbH","consensus_weight":1,"last_restarted":"2026-04-04 03:07:10","bandwidth_rate":1073741824,"bandwidth_burst":1073741824,"observed_bandwidth":3383401,"advertised_bandwidth":3383401,"exit_policy":["....]},"contact":"email:Quetzalcoatl_relays[]proton.me url:https://quetzalcoatl-relays.org proof:uri-rsa hoster:rdp.sh donationurl:https://quetzalcoatl-relays.org/#support-us btc:bc1qc5f3fvr5ftnj70gaj2q68dhg0mne0s85c7ql43 eth:0x53Ad3Ce5004A6710ee425f365F6b469CDBDB5f06 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--
https://nusenu.github.io
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Hi,
according to tor's support policy [1] tor version 0.4.8.x reaches and of life 3 months after 0.4.9.x became stable.
The first tor 0.4.9.x stable release got published on 2026-02-12.
Would be great if someone with the necessary permissions could update the Tor Releases page,
is has not seen any updates for a while:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/team/-/wikis/NetworkTeam/CoreTorRele…
and maybe:
* make a pre-announcement of the 0.4.8.x eol date on this mailing list / blog?
* stop recommending versions one month before they become EoL [2] so people get some log entries in advance even if they don't read this mailing list / blog
The TROVE page could also be updated with regards to tor release 0.4.9.6 ("fixed in" column for lines TROVE-2026-003 and TROVE-2026-004)
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/team/-/wikis/NetworkTeam/TROVE
Below is a list of ~170 operators running >1 relays on tor version 0.4.8.x.
If you are still running relays on tor version 0.4.8 consider upgrading before it reaches end of life.
If you are still using tor version 0.4.8.x clients consider upgrading today because tor 0.4.8.x does not support Happy Family
and MyFamily does not allow large operators to declare all their relays in a single family. That means you run into the risk of using multiple relays
from a single operator in a single circuit. By moving to tor 0.4.9.x clients you also help relay operators and the entire tor network because that helps us with deprecating MyFamily.
kind regards,
nusenu
[1] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/team/-/wikis/NetworkTeam/SupportPoli…
[2] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/team/-/issues/443#note_339…
related gitlab issues:
Stop recommending tor client versions that do not support Happy Families:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/team/-/issues/447
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues/41234
+--------------------------+--------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+-----------+------------+--------+
| ciiss url | con | cw-fraction | exit_prob | guard_prob | relays |
+--------------------------+--------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+-----------+------------+--------+
| relayon.org | url:relayon.org proof:uri-rsa abuse:abuse[]relayon.org ciiss | 1.9 | 3.86 | 0.00 | 87 |
| NULL | KeFF NOC <noc AT keff dot org> | 1.0 | 2.59 | 0.21 | 39 |
| NULL | w3x0cvqh7u4dccyj7369zy6(a)proton.me | 0.5 | 0.00 | 0.95 | 31 |
| for-privacy.net | email:admin@for-privacy.net url:for-privacy.net proof:dns-rs | 0.5 | 0.00 | 1.02 | 42 |
| NULL | Brandon Kuschel <tor AT NOSPAM brandonkuschel dot com> | 0.3 | 0.53 | 0.29 | 48 |
| tor.r0cket.net | email:tor[]r0cket.net url:https://tor.r0cket.net/ proof:uri- | 0.3 | 1.01 | 0.00 | 16 |
| NULL | RandomPerson <skynet(a)academyforinternetresearch.org> | 0.2 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 33 |
| NULL | Neel Chauhan <neel AT neelc DOT org> | 0.1 | 0.33 | 0.02 | 16 |
| NULL | [urquanrelays][proton][me] | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.21 | 2 |
| NULL | Gijs Rijnders (tor AT ip-eend DOT nl) | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.28 | 6 |
| artikel5ev.de | email:abuse[]artikel5ev.de url:https://artikel5ev.de proof:u | 0.1 | 0.36 | 0.05 | 21 |
| www.1aeo.com | email:tor[]1aeo.com url:https://www.1aeo.com proof:uri-rsa a | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.22 | 8 |
| NULL | vollborn(a)quantentunnel.de | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.20 | 4 |
| NULL | tor-operator(a)mufff.in | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.18 | 9 |
| NULL | noc(a)as204750.net | 0.1 | 0.35 | 0.02 | 4 |
| NULL | abuse(a)srstubes.com | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.21 | 5 |
| NULL | noc(a)nforce.com | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.20 | 8 |
| NULL | 2048R/B640BF1A Tor Relay <tor AT sec dot nl> | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.23 | 2 |
| NULL | billy4boul-torATyahooDOTcom | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.32 | 7 |
| NULL | ether1991 at pm.me | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.24 | 11 |
| NULL | nagubandi456(a)gmail.com | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.29 | 3 |
| axstet.de | email:tor[]axstet.de url:https://axstet.de proof:uri-rsa abu | 0.1 | 0.00 | 0.18 | 9 |
| lokodlare.com | email:abuse[]lokodlare.com url:lokodlare.com proof:uri-rsa a | 0.1 | 0.26 | 0.14 | 6 |
| NULL | 0320c8867fccd45d6a6f7a577ed09773f8929a6e CSGuard <admin AT c | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.14 | 2 |
| NULL | dump((a))norvi.tech | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 6 |
| NULL | Kavin <kavin-tor AT protonmail dot com> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.04 | 5 |
| NULL | tor-relay-contact <at> digitalsquid <dot> co <dot> uk | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.05 | 5 |
| NULL | your(a)email.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | nobody(a)example.com | 0.0 | 0.01 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | tor-exit(a)vrij-heid.nl | 0.0 | 0.09 | 0.00 | 4 |
| NULL | frei.raum Technikkollektiv <roland.k AT disroot DOT org> <ht | 0.0 | 0.02 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | aliceblack48(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 2 |
| NULL | io(a)nicolo.ovh | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.05 | 4 |
| NULL | Random Person mr_cloud(a)mail2tor.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | pcp(a)node.fakedoma.in | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 3 |
| NULL | john_rt291141(at)proton(dot)me | 0.0 | 0.08 | 0.00 | 15 |
| NULL | Abuse(at)Texas4Tor(dot)com [tor-relay.co] | 0.0 | 0.01 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | alicesmithactrice(a)protom.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | FatsTor <tor AT stafverhaegen dot be> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | DoNotDisturb AT NoContact NoWarnings | 0.0 | 0.01 | 0.00 | 6 |
| NULL | admin(a)tornode.example.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | anyone-motor-cycle(a)duck.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | matrix: @hi:deads.dev | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
| NULL | admin(a)example.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | < asara AT devvul DOT com > | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
| NULL | Tor Administrator <tor (at-sign) downtimepatrol.com> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | bensraspirelayde(a)gmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | tor-AT-stiffpixels-DOT-com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 2 |
| NULL | FreeExitProvider(at)protonmail(dot)com [tor-relay.co] | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 8 |
| NULL | info(a)syndicateguys.com | 0.0 | 0.07 | 0.00 | 7 |
| NULL | 0xFFFFFFFF Random Person <nobody AT example dot com> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.12 | 3 |
| NULL | PGK <tor at the-goober.net> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | karadimov(a)gmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| teitel.net | Jeff Teitel email:jeff[]teitel.net url:teitel.net proof:dns- | 0.0 | 0.02 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | Eric L <tor(a)inconnu.club> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | tor(a)laserscorpion.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | isakwounderwafl(a)pissmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | tor(a)dst.ca | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 4 |
| NULL | hwangminzi(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.12 | 10 |
| torservers.net | email:support[]torservers.net url:https://torservers.net/ pr | 0.0 | 0.17 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | Mi Gibtsdonet <nobody AT example dot com> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.09 | 3 |
| NULL | HexLess <hexless1(a)outlook.com> | 0.0 | 0.03 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | your-email(a)example.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.05 | 3 |
| NULL | Dr Andy Hill <support AT doctorandyhill dot co dot uk> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | none | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.04 | 4 |
| NULL | abuse(a)datalix.de | 0.0 | 0.16 | 0.01 | 2 |
| kai.sx | Kai <anon AT kai dot sx> url:kai.sx proof:dns-rsa ciissversi | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | contact[at]ng1x[dot]xyz | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.03 | 2 |
| NULL | librarian3104(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | sloetor(a)gmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.08 | 4 |
| NULL | PRQ Hosting <info AT prq dot se> | 0.0 | 0.21 | 0.01 | 9 |
| NULL | spinn2046(a)gmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | admin (at) indst (dot) eu | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | muhhamadabdulbibeg(a)pissmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | cvjoint73(a)protonmail.com | 0.0 | 0.07 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | admin <raging_relay(a)protonmail.com> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | moneymaker(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 10 |
| NULL | solitude(at)montanti(dot)us | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.06 | 11 |
| NULL | tor-relay-admin(a)carlos1001.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 3 |
| NULL | torabusefluffy(a)gmail.com | 0.0 | 0.05 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | tornode345678908(a)pm.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | max(at)freifunk-dresden(dot)de [tor-relay.co] | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.11 | 2 |
| NULL | r0j5ucpml(a)mozmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.06 | 2 |
| nullvoid.me | email:tor[]nullvoid.me url:https://nullvoid.me proof:uri-rsa | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| gojira-family.dedyn.io | email:gojira-family[]riseup.net url:gojira-family.dedyn.io p | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.09 | 3 |
| NULL | diyarciftciatprotonmaildotcom | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| gutter.duckdns.org | email:einszweigsuffa@protonmail.com url:https://gutter.duckd | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 6 |
| NULL | tor{@}public-files{dot}de - BTC: 3JVUpva3XdTzNyTVHVXA7g1hVYV | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.07 | 2 |
| www.digidow.eu | This Relay is operated as part of a research effort to measu | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 19 |
| NULL | hi(a)agfid.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 13 |
| NULL | Random Person nobody(a)tor.org | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.16 | 17 |
| NULL | email | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | gdhong2896(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.05 | 8 |
| NULL | Nik Nik <s2739486(a)ed.ac.uk> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | tor(a)allen.gg | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 3 |
| NULL | tor(a)themainten.net | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
| NULL | Wsoky Tfqyn < wsoky DOT tfqyn AT openmail DOT pro > | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 2 |
| NULL | tor(a)anarchosyndical.org | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.04 | 7 |
| tak.io | ContactInfo email:tak.tor.operator[]gmail.com url:https://ta | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | 1187 EF45 9760 66ED 5AB5 5D50 9755 3391 D0BF 49BA Norris Tho | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | tor(a)zgato.ru | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 8 |
| NULL | Hurdy-Gurdy <admin AT my-mail dot rocks> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.04 | 2 |
| NULL | tor(a)funil.de | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.09 | 4 |
| NULL | ve7lee at gmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | t(at)randomperson(dot)com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | <dmpmmservice (--at--) _gmail_ (.) -com-> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.04 | 7 |
| NULL | 0x18FFB9259E11C3BC69ABC8857E65272B32D3C971 f19.4jbg3(a)gmail.c | 0.0 | 0.02 | 0.03 | 5 |
| NULL | <thebunny.zone> <wintieria proton me> <B9F2F77BA5DC0FC325CB2 | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.03 | 2 |
| NULL | 0xB0C269DD712FC0F8 Tor Operations <tor(a)darkpackets.net> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
| havengroup.codeberg.page | havengroup(a)onionmail.org url:havengroup.codeberg.page proof: | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | info(a)mask.ad | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.09 | 6 |
| NULL | Random Person <tor(a)tesseract.dk> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.05 | 2 |
| NULL | Juuso Kekonen <tor AT kekonen.com> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | url:https://immerscharf.github.io proof:uri-rsa ciisversion: | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.13 | 2 |
| NULL | freiraum_tk AT protonmail DOT ch | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 4 |
| NULL | Stephen Falken | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 8 |
| NULL | vlad (at) vlads (dot) me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.04 | 2 |
| NULL | cwtch ajitml4qclm5cutvg24phpnpgzzkya3nruvo5hgxlubup6bad3xbil | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | tor at 0x3d dot lu - 1x3dG3utS7FDrTtJutnR3zuCo4Z8fUUAL | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.03 | 2 |
| NULL | Random Person <nobody AT example dot com> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 3 |
| NULL | support(a)infosecvpn.org | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | bitmania(a)gmail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | whiteblack23948(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 3 |
| NULL | tor(at)middlendian(dot)com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | [netmonnetworks(a)gmail.com] | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | tor(a)cabaal.net | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | fnepcbxayn(a)tutanota.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 3 |
| NULL | tor(a)as214958.net | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.11 | 8 |
| NULL | rossco(a)whyza.net | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| anders.io | url:anders.io proof:dns-rsa ciissversion:2 | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 2 |
| NULL | 3ipfnszc[at]duck.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | bofh <info(a)sig9.ch> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | admin@localhost | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | Administrator <admin AT anonymousbits DOT net> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| tor.saru.moe | DannyAAM DannyAAMtw email:tor[]saru.moe pgp:EA96C1332576439D | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | FlashTor at e.mail DOT de | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | torchier(a)tutamail.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.08 | 2 |
| NULL | Random Person <tor AT conti dash usa dot net> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
| NULL | Slarty <info at slarty . org> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | tor(a)aaronb.cc | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 2 |
| NULL | 98072(a)example.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | pleadnan(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| dontinterceptmebro.com | email:dave[]pifke.org url:https://dontinterceptmebro.com pro | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | admin(a)juchatz.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 4 |
| NULL | 15424R/6DEA2BA30BC39EB6 Marc Alexander Lehmann <schmorp@schm | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | 404notfound(a)nobodysbusiness.xyz | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.10 | 2 |
| NULL | kinkytronic(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
| NULL | 4096R/701269C611CA9526 OpenNetworX Tor Operator <tor(at)onwx | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.03 | 4 |
| NULL | justinbx(at)skiff(dot)com [tor-relay.co] | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | Random Person <nobody AT bin dot haus> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 2 |
| NULL | Random Person <tor AT uums DOT net> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | giannoug|__AT-|gmail{ DOt-}com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.04 | 3 |
| NULL | ? | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 17 |
| NULL | printerexpert(a)mail2tor.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | tzancauraganul(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.06 | 4 |
| NULL | Maintained by TheMC | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
| doedelkiste.de | email:zwiebel[]quantentunnel.de url:https://doedelkiste.de p | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.10 | 4 |
| NULL | tor at stealthprivacy.de | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 7 |
| NULL | s(dot)aint667[at]proton(dot)me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | tor[(a)]norse.work | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | commonjoe61(a)outlook.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.01 | 2 |
| NULL | TheMadHacker <TheMadHacker AT TheMadHacker dot net> | 0.0 | 0.01 | 0.01 | 4 |
| NULL | tor(a)9g4.net | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.05 | 5 |
| NULL | <trly1 AT proton dot me> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 3 |
| NULL | realhousemd(a)outlook.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | pwcrack(a)pwcrack.com | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.02 | 5 |
| NULL | 4D14050653A402D73687049D2404C9546E145360 gwolf.torrelay AT g | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 |
| NULL | 0x88888888 Ole Tange <ole(a)tange.dk> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | hnlexit(a)bsideshawaii.org | 0.0 | 0.03 | 0.00 | 7 |
| NULL | 0xD2BDDAAEA71726EBF8FD20FF02435989068F7B6B Karin Schmidt & M | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.13 | 2 |
| NULL | acid74 <acid74-acid74(at)hotmail.de> | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | freiraum_TK (AT) protonmail (DOT) ch | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.03 | 3 |
| NULL | your@e-mail | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.08 | 7 |
| NULL | hjo(a)pixelin.net | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | anewpersontotestthis(a)proton.me | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| NULL | stealthprivacy dot eu | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2 |
| limoneneis.de | email:torrelay[]limoneneis.de url:limoneneis.de proof:uri-rs | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0.08 | 2 |
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re. Critical Infrastructure Advisory (jmhbm(a)duck.com) vol 182 issue 15:
This effects only Exit nodes? If not can someone put up a list of easy to understand and follow instructions (preferably signed off by Tor) because this is above my head,
thanks,
On Saturday, March 21st, 2026 at 12:01, tor-relays-request(a)lists.torproject.org <tor-relays-request(a)lists.torproject.org> wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 08:43:58 -0400
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> Dear Tor Relay Operators,
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>
> I am writing to provide a formal advisory regarding an anticipated infrastructure break event scheduled for October 11, 2026 — the ICANN Root Zone KSK rollover. This event is expected to interact with potential vulnerabilities in resolver fragility, hardcoded fallback mechanisms, and encrypted DNS discovery protocols.
>
> This advisory is not intended as a routine cryptographic maintenance task. The KSK rollover serves as one of two critical timed “locks” within a broader restructuring of internet infrastructure layers, including DNS, Certificate Authority (CA) governance, and device attestation. The second such lock is the tightening of Android Remote Key Provisioning (RKP) on March 16, 2026, which collectively accelerates the consolidation of essential functions into hyperscaler-controlled systems, with Google positioned to benefit significantly from this shift.
>
> Infrastructure Break Mechanism
>
> The breakdown follows a predictable sequence of five stages:
>
> KSK-2026 and DNSSEC Fragmentation:
>
> Dual-signing increases root-zone response sizes beyond the approximately 1232-byte UDP limit. This can cause volunteer-run and containerized resolvers to drop fragments or fail to establish reliable TCP fallbacks, thereby disrupting DNSSEC validation.
>
> Fragility in Ephemeral/Containerized Resolvers:
>
> These types of resolvers are commonly found on exit nodes and are unable to persist the newly established trust anchor, resulting in a SERVFAIL response for valid domain names.
>
> Hardcoded Fallback Behavior:
>
> Systems default to pre-compiled public resolvers, such as those provided by Android, Chrome, and systemd-resolved, which typically point to 8.8.8.8 (Google Public DNS).
>
> DDR/DNR Reinforcement:
>
> Encrypted-DNS discovery directs clients to the same designated resolvers—predominantly dns.google. Once this failure is resolved, the change becomes permanent.
>
> Market Capture Dynamics:
>
> DNS traffic will increasingly shift to hyperscaler infrastructure. Google Public DNS is poised to capture the largest share due to its widespread integration across Android, Chrome, and various client platforms.
>
> Governance Context:
>
> This technical break occurs under documented ICANN leadership overlaps with Google. Notably, ICANN President & CEO Kurtis Lindqvist has publicly described the October 2026 rollover as “routine,” despite the inherent risks involved. Former Google Cloud Security CTO Ryan Hurst, who was instrumental in architecting Google Trust Services, was appointed as the Backup Trusted Community Representative during the actual KSK cryptographic ceremony. Additional liaison roles and board-level connections further reinforce governance structures that favor the primary beneficiaries of the resulting traffic shift.
>
> These structural alignments do not require proof of intent; they establish the conditions under which the break mechanism leads to durable centralization.
>
> Impact on Tor Exit Nodes:
>
> Exit nodes utilizing affected resolvers will experience SERVFAIL responses for DNSSEC-signed clearnet domains. Client-side fallback mechanisms will bypass the exit node entirely, redirecting resolution outside the Tor network. This results in degraded reachability, inconsistent performance, and a significant erosion of the decentralized model that Tor is designed to uphold.
>
> Operator Actions (Required Prior to October 2026):
>
> Verify TCP fallback capabilities and EDNS(0) support (conduct thorough testing with large DNSSEC responses).
> Audit and enforce trust-anchor updates, including unbound-anchor management.
> Disable or closely monitor client-side fallback behavior on your relays.
> Test resolution paths during the dual-signing window.
> Where feasible, consider directing DoT/DoH traffic to non-hyperscaler resolvers.
> The “Privacy Web” cannot sustain another centralized chokepoint. Proactive preparation now is essential to ensure that post-rollover migration can be reversed if necessary.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> JMHBM
>
> Forensic Governance Analyst
>
>
>
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Hi everyone,
We've rewritten CollecTor from the ground up in Rust, replacing the
legacy Java service that has been increasingly unstable over the past
months. The new service, collector-rs, was deployed yesterday and is now
live.
You can find the source at:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/metrics/collector-rs
Shoutout to Juga who has been the main developer behind the redesigned
service.
A couple of things to be aware of:
- Data continues to be available in the usual folders, so existing
workflows should not be affected.
- You may notice some folders are temporarily duplicated as part of the
transition. This is cosmetic and the underlying data is consistent.
- The instability of the old CollecTor may have affected services that
depend on it as an upstream data source, including Onionoo, Tor Weather,
the metrics website, and any community-run services or apps that consume
CollecTor data. The new deployment should resolve these issues going
forward.
If you run into any issues or notice anything unexpected, please don't
hesitate to reach out or open an issue on the GitLab repo.
Cheers,
hiro
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Hi,
I'm trying to understand what the current state of Happy Family support is in c-tor.
According to the spec the Happy Family design supports bridges as well:
https://spec.torproject.org/proposals/321-happy-families.html#a-note-on-bri…
but there is some contradicting information in
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues/40935
Can you share some insights whether c-tor implements the Happy Family spec for bridges?
I'm primarily asking in the context of
"Does the bridge descriptor contain the family ID if the operator configured Happy Family on a bridge?"
From what we see, it looks like c-tor does not support Happy Family for bridges
or collector or onionoo does not support it for bridges.
Example:
https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?lookup=D29BAD033529C42F9E700752CF59B…
thanks,
nusenu
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