Hi!
I'm one of the mirror admins for ftp.acc.umu.se.
It's nice that the tor mirroring effort is seeing some attention from
the project, but I'm still curious on what the plan/purpose/goal with
the mirroring effort is from an end-user perspective.
Bear in mind that I'm mostly accustomed to "regular" open source
projects and not fully updated on all the issues with a
privacy-oriented project such as TOR.
However, I see issues with the usefulness of providing a TOR mirror.
One of the prime motivations for us to provide a mirror is the benefit
for users in our local region, and this is especially true for other
mirrors in bandwidth-starved regions. If there is more bandwidth
consumption by mirroring a project than there are downloads it's kind
of hard to motivate a mirror in the first place.
>From what I have gathered it's today almost impossible for an end user
to find and use a mirror...
1) https://www.torproject.org/ -> Download brings you to
https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en which seems
hard-coded to download from dist.torproject.org ... No mirror usage
there.
2) There is no list of alternative/mirror download locations. I can
google my way to
https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/mirrors.html.en but that's not
updated with the latest mirrors nor sorted in a user-friendly manner
(you want the list by country/region).
3) The TOR project itself doesn't seem to have much interest in
actually using its mirrors. For example
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/27586 discards using
mirrorbits with "not needed at the moment", when the exact opposite is
true. We mirror admins WANT the traffic, and the TOR project NEEDS
something to enable that together with automatically
monitoring/disabling broken mirrors for a useful end-user experience.
4) And finally, if all above is catered for, there is the question on
how to do download mirror redirect/selection in a clear yet useful
manner for the end user. Should the user always be presented with a
list of mirrors to choose from? Should that be generated on the server
side or in-browser from a list of current mirrors (ie. json output
from mirrorbits or similar)? We are heading into privacy concerns
here, but it needs to be addressed in a better way than just assuming
that the three magic hosts serving dist.torproject.org is the best
choice for a particular end-user...
/Nikke
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Hi,
this list has accumulated some unanswered mails, sorry for the delay.
- The mirror community now has a component in trac and is waiting for
feature requests.[2]
- The update script got an overhaul, feel encouraged to review it! [1]
- After removing offline mirrors 43 were still in the game. In case
your mirror is no longer listed, please send a mail and it will be
recovered. The current list can be seen at
https://github.com/torproject/webwml/blob/47cbb62873bd44a97b69c676585d5213e…
- Announced new mirrors have been added.
The TLS certificate for 108.248.87.242 and tor.ozgurlesin.org does not
match the domain and there were timeouts during testing. If some errors
turn out as permanent, they mirror will be removed at some point in the
future. Feel free to comment on https://bugs.torproject.org/27997
These changes have not yet been merged to the website so in case you
find errors, there's a time window to correct them before. Please tell!
This question has already been answered, just to confirm:
> Can I just mirror the "files" and skip the "web" part?
Yes, you are free to offer one or more of following types:
- httpWebsiteMirror
- httpsWebsiteMirror
- ftpWebsiteMirror
- httpDistMirror
- httpsDistMirror
- onionServiceMirror
If you have ideas to improve the mirror community, please share them
on-list or if you have an account on trac at ticket #22150.
https://bugs.torproject.org/22150
Thanks for providing a mirror in the past / present / future!
[1] https://github.com/torproject/webwml/pull/58
[2]
https://trac.torprojec.org/projects/tor/query?status=!closed&component=Comm…
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Hi,
Is it just me or is rsync down since sometime yesterday?
rsync: failed to connect to rsync.torproject.org (94.130.28.200):
Connection refused (111)
rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(125)
[Receiver=3.1.2]
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