[tor-relays] german plans on banning TOR

Andreas Krey a.krey at gmx.de
Thu Mar 7 09:14:08 UTC 2019

On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 21:19:23 +0000, niftybunny wrote:
> Thats every ISP on the world. Every ISP on the world lets you connect to the internet.

No, that legislation is restricted to restricted-access sites, i.e. tor onion services,
or technially i2p as well (but nobody cares about that).

> What they want to do is outlaw the running of markets who promote drugs, weapons and cheese pizza.
> Thats already the case. The just want it in one law so they don't have to process several accusations.

No, they want to make the 'silkroad' operators more easily targetable.
At the moment you can operate a trading platform on an an onion site
and claim to not know what is actually traded on that platfrom. This
legislation feels like it is attempting to change that (probably
in reaction to the platfrom that faciltated selling the waepon
for the munich shooting).

As for the broadness of the text - basically unless you're an
onion site that isn't as well-known as walmart, you might always
find yourself to be considere to fall under this law.

It's not targeting tor node operators. Neither it is trying to
make the tor project into a criminal organisation - it's the
other way round trying to get at 'bad' onion site operators
even if they are not part of a traditional 'organization',
as in the internet time and gig economy there are les and
less such.

- Andreas

"Totally trivial. Famous last words."
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@*.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:21 -0800

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