[tor-dev] TBB Memory Allocator choice fingerprint implications

Ryan Duff ry at nduff.com
Wed Aug 21 20:28:31 UTC 2019

> If someone is going to criticize other people's work and dismiss it as
nearly useless without even somewhat informing themselves about it,
they should expect to be called out on that.

I don't have a dog in this fight but, as an outside observer, I never got
the impression that this is what Tom was doing. I read it as
"hardened_malloc is better but we are trying to do these *n *things to try
to close that gap". I didn't read it as an attack at all.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Daniel Micay <danielmicay at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 11:57, Nicolas Vigier <boklm at mars-attacks.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, Daniel Micay wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > No, you're just making false attacks and misleading comparisons / spin
> > > to promote your own work, which is trash. You're being incredibly
> > > dishonest and unethical. You didn't even bother to inform yourself
> about
> >
> > It's fine to disagree with Tom about what he wrote in his previous email,
> > however calling him dishonest and unethical seems very wrong to me. If
> > anything he wrote was not correct or misleading
> If someone is going to criticize other people's work and dismiss it as
> nearly useless without even somewhat informing themselves about it,
> they should expect to be called out on that. You might find my reply
> offensive, but I found the email that I was replying to extremely
> offensive and I had to subscribe to this list and figure out how to
> send a reply to a past email from the archive to defend the value of
> my work. It wasn't fair or accurate criticisms or comparisons.
> It's not the first attack that I responded to today or the last. It's
> one of many. The depth and tone of my responses varies based on what
> I'm responding to. If I can assume good faith, I will do it, but I
> could not do that here with how it was presented. All of this is time
> is taken away from working on the projects and that hurts, but so does
> leaving it unchallenged.
> > I doubt it was intentional and more likely it was some honest mistakes.
> I don't see how you can suggest it wasn't the intention. It's
> dismissing the project / work and the value of it without even putting
> in basic effort to learn what it is and what it does. It's presented
> as informed, expert commentary when it isn't. I had a serious problem
> with it and I responded in the way I felt was suitable. I intended to
> express how I felt about it which wouldn't have been accomplished by
> using forced diplomatic wording. I said that they were being dishonest
> and unethical with their actions. If people don't want to be called
> out for that, they shouldn't do it.
> Mozilla has a history of harming me. I've documented this as one more
> case of attacks from Mozilla to go along with everything else. I see
> no reason to put up with it or tolerate it. Mozilla should expect that
> one day they're going to be held accountable. If people at Mozilla
> aren't aware of the unethical behavior it regularly engages in
> including an exploitative approach to contributors, they should inform
> themselves. My issue is primarily with Mozilla as an organization and
> a culture rather than any specific individuals participating in that.
> I think the problem is ultimately that self-righteous, dishonest
> organization presenting itself as a benevolent force of good when it
> really doesn't line up with the reality. It taints how the people
> involved approach things. Since these past issues were never
> addressed, and the company hasn't changed, any attacks from people at
> Mozilla are a spark igniting this existing conflict. It's not my
> responsibility to inform all their employees about what the
> organization has done and failed to resolve.
> I'm not planning on participating on this list beyond defending myself
> here and in future cases.
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