Re: [Tor www-team] Just a download site
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/, but I'm not sure what the policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks. I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated! On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo? On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net>wrote:
If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote:
I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating whether language should be a prominent option or under the "Something Else" field, so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is disabled, then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, 32-bit, Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then I'll go ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo next to the download button like this: [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/, but I'm not sure what the policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo? On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net
wrote:
If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote: > I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating whether > language should be a prominent option or under the "Something Else" field, > so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard. > > All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is disabled, > then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, 32-bit, > Stable). > > All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then I'll go > ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS. > > Here is the mockup: > > [image: Inline image 2]
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That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo as the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy enough to replicate. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo next to the download button like this: [image: Inline image 1]
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/, but I'm not sure what the policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo? On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce < griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote:
> If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All > Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language. > > ~Griffin > > William Papper wrote: > > I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating > whether > > language should be a prominent option or under the "Something > Else" field, > > so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard. > > > > All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is > disabled, > > then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, > 32-bit, > > Stable). > > > > All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then > I'll go > > ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS. > > > > Here is the mockup: > > > > [image: Inline image 2] > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Tor Website Team coordination mailing-list > > To unsubscribe or change other options, please visit: > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/www-team >
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When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't need to have non-js and js versions. Thoughts? Lance On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote:
That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo as the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy enough to replicate.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo next to the download button like this:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [2]
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [3], but I'm not sure what the policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo?
On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote: If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote:
I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating whether language should be a prominent option or under the "Something Else" field, so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is disabled, then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, 32-bit, Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then I'll go ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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Language replacement, or offering up downloads for a given language is easier with JavaScript. See also l10n.js for a good example: https://github.com/eligrey/l10n.js But showing/hiding divs doesn't need to be done in javascript, certainly. ~Griffin On 03/28/2014 03:07 PM, lance@insiberia.net wrote:
When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't need to have non-js and js versions.
Thoughts?
Lance
On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote:
That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo as the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy enough to replicate.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo next to the download button like this:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [2]
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [3], but I'm not sure what the policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo?
On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote: If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote:
I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating whether language should be a prominent option or under the "Something Else" field, so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is disabled, then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, 32-bit, Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then I'll go ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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That sounds great! My only concern is if we are still able to manipulate the download button using dropdowns without JS. If that's possible, then I'm all for going without it (which would make things much easier). If we need to use JS with the dropdowns, then we can just start with the non-JS version first and work from there. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't need to have non-js and js versions.
Thoughts?
Lance
On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote:
That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo as the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy enough to replicate.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo
next to the download button like this:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [2]
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [3], but I'm not sure what the
policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo?
On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote: If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote:
I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating
whether
language should be a prominent option or under the "Something
Else" field,
so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is
disabled,
then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows,
32-bit,
Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site,
then I'll go
ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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I'm pretty sure I can do it all in CSS, that's where I will start. I added the MIT license to my fork if you all are good with that you can pull it if you like. Lance On 28.03.2014 15:56, William Papper wrote:
That sounds great! My only concern is if we are still able to manipulate the download button using dropdowns without JS. If that's possible, then I'm all for going without it (which would make things much easier).
If we need to use JS with the dropdowns, then we can just start with the non-JS version first and work from there.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't need to have non-js and js versions.
Thoughts?
Lance
On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote:
That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo as the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy enough to replicate.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo next to the download button like this:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [1] [2]
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [2] [3], but I'm not sure what the
policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo?
On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote: If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote: I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating whether language should be a prominent option or under the "Something Else" field, so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is disabled, then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, 32-bit, Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then I'll go ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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I'm all for the MIT license. Checking the Tor Project's gitweb instance, it appears that the web projects have various licenses. If we need to re-license it later to fit a standard, then we can always do so. I also gave you contributor access to the GitHub repo. If anyone else wants contributor access, just let me know. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I'm pretty sure I can do it all in CSS, that's where I will start. I added the MIT license to my fork if you all are good with that you can pull it if you like.
Lance
On 28.03.2014 15:56, William Papper wrote:
That sounds great! My only concern is if we are still able to manipulate the download button using dropdowns without JS. If that's possible, then I'm all for going without it (which would make things much easier).
If we need to use JS with the dropdowns, then we can just start with the non-JS version first and work from there.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My
thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't need to have non-js and js versions.
Thoughts?
Lance
On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote:
That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo as the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy enough to replicate.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo next to the download button like this:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [1] [2]
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [2] [3], but I'm not sure what
the
policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo?
On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote: If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote: I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating whether language should be a prominent option or under the "Something Else" field, so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is disabled, then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, 32-bit, Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then I'll go ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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Looking at the repo - am I understanding correctly that it's to be a static site? Happy to chip in though I'm away for a couple of days starting tmw. the-frey on GitHub if that helps. Cheers, A ______________________Label: Superstar DestroyerWeb: http://www.hipstersunite.netI write for Prog Magazine, The Fly, This is Fake DIY and build websites. Twitter: @hipsters_unite | LinkedIn Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:09:51 -0400 From: william@papper.me To: www-team@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [Tor www-team] Just a download site I'm all for the MIT license. Checking the Tor Project's gitweb instance, it appears that the web projects have various licenses. If we need to re-license it later to fit a standard, then we can always do so. I also gave you contributor access to the GitHub repo. If anyone else wants contributor access, just let me know. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote: I'm pretty sure I can do it all in CSS, that's where I will start. I added the MIT license to my fork if you all are good with that you can pull it if you like. Lance On 28.03.2014 15:56, William Papper wrote: That sounds great! My only concern is if we are still able to manipulate the download button using dropdowns without JS. If that's possible, then I'm all for going without it (which would make things much easier). If we need to use JS with the dropdowns, then we can just start with the non-JS version first and work from there. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote: When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't need to have non-js and js versions. Thoughts? Lance On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote: That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo as the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy enough to replicate. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote: Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo next to the download button like this: On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to keep the same naming convention as the official projects): https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [1] [2] It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now. Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [2] [3], but I'm not sure what the policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project members shed some light on this? Thanks. I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All contributions are greatly appreciated! On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote: Github sounds good. On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: That would be great, Lance. Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or should I create a GitHub repo? On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote: I would love to help with the page if needed. Lance On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which would be a simple list. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote: If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language. ~Griffin William Papper wrote: I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating whether language should be a prominent option or under the "Something Else" field, so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard. All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is disabled, then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows, 32-bit, Stable). All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site, then I'll go ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS. Here is the mockup: [image: Inline image 2] ________________________________________________________________________ Tor Website Team coordination mailing-list To unsubscribe or change other options, please visit: https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/www-team [3] [1] ------------------------- Tor Website Team coordination mailing-list To unsubscribe or change other options, please visit: https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/www-team [3] [1] -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Submitted a pull of an initial design. I don't like the color scheme yet, so feel free to get a good color scheme in. The one thing is the Tor logo is kind of terrible when it comes to color composition hah. Let me know, if you have any suggestions or modifications of your own. Lance Alex Lynham:
Looking at the repo - am I understanding correctly that it's to be a static site? Happy to chip in though I'm away for a couple of days starting tmw. the-frey on GitHub if that helps. Cheers, A
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:09:51 -0400 From: william@papper.me To: www-team@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [Tor www-team] Just a download site
I'm all for the MIT license. Checking the Tor Project's gitweb instance, it appears that the web projects have various licenses. If we need to re-license it later to fit a standard, then we can always do so.
I also gave you contributor access to the GitHub repo. If anyone else wants contributor access, just let me know.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I'm pretty sure I can do it all in CSS, that's where I will start. I added the MIT license to my fork if you all are good with that you can pull it if you like.
Lance
On 28.03.2014 15:56, William Papper wrote:
That sounds great! My only concern is if we are still able to
manipulate the download button using dropdowns without JS. If that's
possible, then I'm all for going without it (which would make things
much easier).
If we need to use JS with the dropdowns, then we can just start with
the non-JS version first and work from there.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My
thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't
need to have non-js and js versions.
Thoughts?
Lance
On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote:
That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo
as
the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy
enough to replicate.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo
next to the download button like this:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me>
wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to
keep the same naming convention as the official projects):
https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [1] [2]
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now.
Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted
on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [2] [3], but I'm not sure what
the
policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project
members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All
contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper
<william@papper.me>
wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or
should I create a GitHub repo?
On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper
<william@papper.me> wrote:
That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which
would
be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce
<griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote:
If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All
Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote:
I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating
whether
language should be a prominent option or under the "Something
Else" field,
so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is
disabled,
then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows,
32-bit,
Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site,
then I'll go
ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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Looks great to me. Would this be modified to follow the mockup, or is this a new design idea? On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:11 PM, lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
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Submitted a pull of an initial design. I don't like the color scheme yet, so feel free to get a good color scheme in. The one thing is the Tor logo is kind of terrible when it comes to color composition hah.
Let me know, if you have any suggestions or modifications of your own.
Lance
Alex Lynham:
Looking at the repo - am I understanding correctly that it's to be a static site? Happy to chip in though I'm away for a couple of days starting tmw. the-frey on GitHub if that helps. Cheers, A
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:09:51 -0400 From: william@papper.me To: www-team@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [Tor www-team] Just a download site
I'm all for the MIT license. Checking the Tor Project's gitweb instance, it appears that the web projects have various licenses. If we need to re-license it later to fit a standard, then we can always do so.
I also gave you contributor access to the GitHub repo. If anyone else wants contributor access, just let me know.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I'm pretty sure I can do it all in CSS, that's where I will start. I added the MIT license to my fork if you all are good with that you can pull it if you like.
Lance
On 28.03.2014 15:56, William Papper wrote:
That sounds great! My only concern is if we are still able to
manipulate the download button using dropdowns without JS. If that's
possible, then I'm all for going without it (which would make things
much easier).
If we need to use JS with the dropdowns, then we can just start with
the non-JS version first and work from there.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
When I get home in a few hours I will start on the html/css . My
thoughts are to not use any javascript at all, that way we don't
need to have non-js and js versions.
Thoughts?
Lance
On 28.03.2014 14:52, William Papper wrote:
That's really elegant. It seems that they're just setting the logo
as
the background and also setting a background color. Should be easy
enough to replicate.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Olssy <olssy1@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox has a very nice download page where they overlay the logo
next to the download button like this:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:33 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me>
wrote:
I created a GitHub repository for the project here (attempting to
keep the same naming convention as the official projects):
https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web [1] [2]
It's just a quick and easy way for us to collaborate for now.
Ideally, I'd like to have it hosted
on https://gitweb.torproject.org/ [2] [3], but I'm not sure what
the
policies are for adding a project. Could one of the Tor Project
members shed some light on this? Thanks.
I'll be committing my changes to the GitHub repository. All
contributions are greatly appreciated!
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
Github sounds good.
On March 28, 2014 1:16:18 PM EDT, William Papper
<william@papper.me>
wrote:
That would be great, Lance.
Does the Tor Project have an official git server we can use, or
should I create a GitHub repo?
On Mar 28, 2014 1:00 PM, "Lance" <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
I would love to help with the page if needed.
Lance
On March 28, 2014 12:40:27 PM EDT, William Papper
<william@papper.me> wrote:
That's a great idea. I'll mockup a page without JS also, which
would
be a simple list.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Griffin Boyce
<griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote:
If js is disabled, then the fallback should have a link to "All
Downloads" which would open a div with them arranged by language.
~Griffin
William Papper wrote:
I've completed a rough mockup of the site. I'm still debating
whether
language should be a prominent option or under the "Something
Else" field,
so I tried to mirror the current site in that regard.
All of the defaults would be auto-detected using JS. If JS is
disabled,
then the most common options are pre-selected (English, Windows,
32-bit,
Stable).
All feedback is greatly appreciated. If people like the site,
then I'll go
ahead and build it in HTML/CSS/JS.
Here is the mockup:
[image: Inline image 2]
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 06:15:18PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 24K bytes in 0 lines about: : Looks great to me. Would this be modified to follow the mockup, or is this : a new design idea? This progress is great! Thank you to all working on it, especially William for the designs and kicking it off. -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 06:11:39PM -0400, lance@insiberia.net wrote 8.7K bytes in 0 lines about: : Let me know, if you have any suggestions or modifications of your own. A suggestion is to prominently put a donate button and link to the donate page of torproject.org. If every downloader donated $1, we'd sustainable on our own for a long, long time. Thanks! -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475
It should be framed as something informal like "chip in? constant development to stay ahead of censors" It should be directly to the payment aparatus rather than ten levels of cleverness.
A suggestion is to prominently put a donate button and link to the donate page of torproject.org.
If every downloader donated $1, we'd sustainable on our own for a long, long time.
Thanks!
-- Andrew
I've added a donate button to the page. Is it prominent enough? If not, it can be in its own box with different styling. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is>wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 06:11:39PM -0400, lance@insiberia.net wrote 8.7K bytes in 0 lines about: : Let me know, if you have any suggestions or modifications of your own.
A suggestion is to prominently put a donate button and link to the donate page of torproject.org.
If every downloader donated $1, we'd sustainable on our own for a long, long time.
Thanks!
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:00:39PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 3.2K bytes in 0 lines about: : I've added a donate button to the page. Is it prominent enough? If not, it : can be in its own box with different styling. Where should I be looking? -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475
That's my answer, then. It's on the bottom left, but I'll make it into a new, very visible button. On Mar 29, 2014 7:56 PM, "Andrew Lewman" <andrew@torproject.is> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:00:39PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 3.2K bytes in 0 lines about: : I've added a donate button to the page. Is it prominent enough? If not, it : can be in its own box with different styling.
Where should I be looking?
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then. Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred? -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying. I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page: [image: Inline image 1] Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate? On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is> wrote:
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Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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the download button should be red or orange On 30 March 2014 03:35, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
[image: Inline image 1]
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/ All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward). Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
[image: Inline image 1]
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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Hi, I think that the download button should say what it will be downloaded. Because the "looking for something else phrase" doesn't say wich is the current download. I don't know if it's safe to rely with the user reading the three selects to figure it out. The rest seems really nice.
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward).
Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
[image: Inline image 1]
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is>wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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That's really helpful, thanks. How about "Current Download:"? I'll also place the selections in the button text itself, as Andrew and a few others suggested. I'll implement both changes, just to make it clear to a novice user what will be downloaded. Hi, I think that the download button should say what it will be downloaded. Because the "looking for something else phrase" doesn't say wich is the current download. I don't know if it's safe to rely with the user reading the three selects to figure it out. The rest seems really nice.
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward).
Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
[image: Inline image 1]
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is>wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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I tried #BBB for the download description. How about hiding the complexity which the advanced users can access from a different page? Or ateast hiding it with a js overlay for js enabled users? I like the black text on white colors of the tor site, it gives a certain credibitlity to the site, especially for many users who may not have been on the internet a lot. How about adding some text like 'last updated _ days ago' to the page? Maybe helpful to returning users, especially if the bundle was updated after their last download. [image: Inline image 1] On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:19 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
That's really helpful, thanks.
How about "Current Download:"?
I'll also place the selections in the button text itself, as Andrew and a few others suggested.
I'll implement both changes, just to make it clear to a novice user what will be downloaded. Hi, I think that the download button should say what it will be downloaded. Because the "looking for something else phrase" doesn't say wich is the current download.
I don't know if it's safe to rely with the user reading the three selects to figure it out.
The rest seems really nice.
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward).
Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
[image: Inline image 1]
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is>wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 04:44:15AM -0800, beatthebastards@inbox.com wrote 64K bytes in 0 lines about: : It would be wise to just offer what people need and ask for donations to : maintain the process. : : Selling Tor is not what it is about! Actually, this is what it's entirely about. It's about a quick way to get to tor in as few clicks as possible, and let people see it's tor, remember it's tor, and tell their friends about tor. The big logo just reinforces this idea. -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I have plenty of spare time tomorrow to finish up anything. William I'm on irc now if you want to discuss anything! Thanks all for your pulls and hard work. lance Andrew Lewman:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 04:44:15AM -0800, beatthebastards@inbox.com wrote 64K bytes in 0 lines about: : It would be wise to just offer what people need and ask for donations to : maintain the process. : : Selling Tor is not what it is about!
Actually, this is what it's entirely about. It's about a quick way to get to tor in as few clicks as possible, and let people see it's tor, remember it's tor, and tell their friends about tor. The big logo just reinforces this idea.
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Here's a rough TODO list that anyone can feel free to jump in on. Everything is sorted by priority: - Make the download button change when a new drop down option is selected. There's a bug in initializeChange() in detect.js where it won't trigger on selection change, but I can't spot it easily. - Make the download button include the OS icon (which helps novice users). The goal is to have it look something like the Firefox download button, but with OS icons instead of the Firefox icon (it's just a matter of setting the background image in the CSS, but the icon needs to be the right size): https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ - Make the whole download button have the hover effect, not just the "Download" text - Make a non-JS fallback which is just a table of links for each OS and language. They can be replaced by jQuery so that most users never see it, but some users will have Javascript disabled. Some of these changes should be very straightforward, even if you aren't a developer. All pull requests are welcome! Here's a link to the latest changes: https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM, lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
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I have plenty of spare time tomorrow to finish up anything. William I'm on irc now if you want to discuss anything!
Thanks all for your pulls and hard work.
lance
Andrew Lewman:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 04:44:15AM -0800, beatthebastards@inbox.com wrote 64K bytes in 0 lines about: : It would be wise to just offer what people need and ask for donations to : maintain the process. : : Selling Tor is not what it is about!
Actually, this is what it's entirely about. It's about a quick way to get to tor in as few clicks as possible, and let people see it's tor, remember it's tor, and tell their friends about tor. The big logo just reinforces this idea.
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A beta of the download site is now available: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/ We're still working on some UI aspects, but all of the functionality is now complete. There's even a non-JS fallback available, which is automatically used when JS is not enabled. All comments and feedback are welcome! As always, pull requests are always appreciated at https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Here's a rough TODO list that anyone can feel free to jump in on. Everything is sorted by priority:
- Make the download button change when a new drop down option is selected. There's a bug in initializeChange() in detect.js where it won't trigger on selection change, but I can't spot it easily. - Make the download button include the OS icon (which helps novice users). The goal is to have it look something like the Firefox download button, but with OS icons instead of the Firefox icon (it's just a matter of setting the background image in the CSS, but the icon needs to be the right size): https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ - Make the whole download button have the hover effect, not just the "Download" text - Make a non-JS fallback which is just a table of links for each OS and language. They can be replaced by jQuery so that most users never see it, but some users will have Javascript disabled.
Some of these changes should be very straightforward, even if you aren't a developer. All pull requests are welcome! Here's a link to the latest changes: https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM, lance <lance@insiberia.net> wrote:
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I have plenty of spare time tomorrow to finish up anything. William I'm on irc now if you want to discuss anything!
Thanks all for your pulls and hard work.
lance
Andrew Lewman:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 04:44:15AM -0800, beatthebastards@inbox.com wrote 64K bytes in 0 lines about: : It would be wise to just offer what people need and ask for donations to : maintain the process. : : Selling Tor is not what it is about!
Actually, this is what it's entirely about. It's about a quick way to get to tor in as few clicks as possible, and let people see it's tor, remember it's tor, and tell their friends about tor. The big logo just reinforces this idea.
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William Papper:
A beta of the download site is now available: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
We're still working on some UI aspects, but all of the functionality is now complete. There's even a non-JS fallback available, which is automatically used when JS is not enabled.
All comments and feedback are welcome! As always, pull requests are always appreciated at https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web.
This looks amazing. This would obviously be cleaned up anyway, but please note that the 'Tor Browser Bundle' is now just 'Tor Browser' [see https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/11193]
Thanks, fixed! On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:42 PM, harmony <harmony01@riseup.net> wrote:
William Papper:
A beta of the download site is now available: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
We're still working on some UI aspects, but all of the functionality is now complete. There's even a non-JS fallback available, which is automatically used when JS is not enabled.
All comments and feedback are welcome! As always, pull requests are always appreciated at https://github.com/wpapper/tor-download-web.
This looks amazing.
This would obviously be cleaned up anyway, but please note that the 'Tor Browser Bundle' is now just 'Tor Browser' [see https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/11193] ________________________________________________________________________ Tor Website Team coordination mailing-list
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On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 07:33:22PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 102K bytes in 0 lines about: : The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be : accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/ This is great! : Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be : figured out, particularly the background color. Some random thoughts: - Perhaps the download button could be "Download Tor for <operating system here>" rather than just "Download" - Perhaps change the "download beta" to "want to test a beta tor browser?" - instead of copyright, cc-by 3.0? - i think some sort of neutral/dense grey background - the download link will probably need to point somewhere else, other than torproject.org An idea for a simple download site could be to let people mirror dist.torproject.org, using this download layout, and making it easier to get tor from mirrors in local countries, such as Turkey. My original idea for a download site is based on the top usage pattern from the current website, where people just go to the home page, click download, go to download-easy, and then leave the site. If we can cut out the first click and everything else on the page, we can get more people downloading tor browser successfully. See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/attachment/ticket/10329/2013-12-www... for paths in December. I get around 5 calls a week from people who are confused by the current website, and all they want to do is download torbrower. -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475
Looks great! Simple enough for the common user, with all options available for advanced users. Regarding the donate button I’d opt for a separate button, which is more visibly distinguished. We want it to be noticed as much as possible, while keeping the design consistent. Am 31 Mar 2014 um 01:33 schrieb William Papper <william@papper.me>:
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward).
Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote: Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
<Screen Shot 2014-03-29 at 9.31.08 PM.png>
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is> wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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As a starter basic page its pretty nice and simple. very nice job it breaks all the rules for a converting landing page but this can be worked on later on. better to start simple like it is and then improve through split testing. On 31 March 2014 08:57, Moritz Süß <moritz@moritzsuess.de> wrote:
Looks great! Simple enough for the common user, with all options available for advanced users.
Regarding the donate button I'd opt for a separate button, which is more visibly distinguished. We want it to be noticed as much as possible, while keeping the design consistent.
Am 31 Mar 2014 um 01:33 schrieb William Papper <william@papper.me>:
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward).
Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
<Screen Shot 2014-03-29 at 9.31.08 PM.png>
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is>wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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I appreciate the suggestion for split testing, but we can't implement it in a privacy-preserving way. I see three main issues: 1. It requires logging a lot of data on users. Even if we could find a split testing that didn't log IPs, it still would log far more than we're comfortable with. 2. The user is connecting to an external server which we likely have no control over. Is it serving malicious JS to certain countries or covertly changing download links to malicious versions of Tor? We don't know. 3. I don't think we should be implementing external code in a website like this. Imagine if Turkey (which has been discussed previously) spoofed the certificate for the split testing service or changed the IP it resolved to. It would have free rein over the entire site. Split testing is always good, but in this case it doesn't seem to be an option. As a starter basic page its pretty nice and simple. very nice job it breaks all the rules for a converting landing page but this can be worked on later on. better to start simple like it is and then improve through split testing. On 31 March 2014 08:57, Moritz Süß <moritz@moritzsuess.de> wrote:
Looks great! Simple enough for the common user, with all options available for advanced users.
Regarding the donate button I'd opt for a separate button, which is more visibly distinguished. We want it to be noticed as much as possible, while keeping the design consistent.
Am 31 Mar 2014 um 01:33 schrieb William Papper <william@papper.me>:
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS fallback (which should be very straightforward).
Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to be figured out, particularly the background color.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william@papper.me> wrote:
Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo. Here's a screenshot of the page:
<Screen Shot 2014-03-29 at 9.31.08 PM.png>
Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew@torproject.is>wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william@papper.me wrote 2.6K bytes in 0 lines about: : That's my answer, then.
Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to whatever you referred?
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William Papper:
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
Couple comments from my side: * It says “Easily Download”. I believe “Easily” should be removed. Either it's easy and people don't care that it is, or it's not and it seems we are trying to sell it as such. * In the dropdown menus, there is a label as a first entry. I think it's confusing because of the preselection. What does it mean to download the version “Architecture”? * I believe the language dropdown is self-explaining, but the other two might not be. I believe icons to help users when talking about operating systems, because they can see the same image on the computer itself (stickers or engraved logo). * We don't offer 64-bit builds for Windows and Mac OS X, so the current division between OS and architecture is problematic: it is only valid for Linux. I won't get into the problem of verifying signatures. It is really important and most users will fail while trying… But maybe it should still not appear in a footer. Thanks a lot for your work! -- Lunar <lunar@torproject.org>
i don't understand the verifying signatures it dosent look like a clickable link and more of a process i should wait for. On 31 March 2014 16:50, Lunar <lunar@torproject.org> wrote:
William Papper:
The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
Couple comments from my side:
* It says "Easily Download". I believe "Easily" should be removed. Either it's easy and people don't care that it is, or it's not and it seems we are trying to sell it as such. * In the dropdown menus, there is a label as a first entry. I think it's confusing because of the preselection. What does it mean to download the version "Architecture"? * I believe the language dropdown is self-explaining, but the other two might not be. I believe icons to help users when talking about operating systems, because they can see the same image on the computer itself (stickers or engraved logo). * We don't offer 64-bit builds for Windows and Mac OS X, so the current division between OS and architecture is problematic: it is only valid for Linux.
I won't get into the problem of verifying signatures. It is really important and most users will fail while trying... But maybe it should still not appear in a footer.
Thanks a lot for your work!
-- Lunar <lunar@torproject.org>
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 09:49:54PM +0000, acelynham@hotmail.com wrote 20K bytes in 0 lines about: : Looking at the repo - am I understanding correctly that it's to be a static site? Happy to chip in though I'm away for a couple of days starting tmw. the-frey on GitHub if that helps. At least everything hosted off a single place, yes. No 3rd party calls to jquery, etc. -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475
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