Re: [tor-relays] tor-relays Digest, Vol 35, Issue 25
i don't know, who knows how tor-weather sends the t-shirt e-mail. i took a look at the code and found that the mail is sent after 1464 hours of uptime (=61 days), checking every hour. according to this the downtime due to updates is really not that relevant. i'd guess that there are approx. 3 or 4 updates in the required 2 months, which would "cost" you an equivalent amount of hours. i don't think that it matters whether you get your mail 3 or 4 hours later. so i think the algorithm is fine. Am 30.12.2013 um 13:00 schrieb tor-relays-request@lists.torproject.org:
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1. Re: Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem (Random Tor Node Operator)
Von: Random Tor Node Operator <tor@unterderbruecke.de> Betreff: Aw: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem Datum: 30 .Dezember 2013 12:48:16 MEZ An: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Antwort an: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Signierter PGP Teil On 12/28/2013 01:26 AM, I wrote:
I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt from donated resources.
It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time running ignoring minor disruptions.
I agree with that point, because currently, relay operators have the incentive to not update to the latest Tor version whenever a new version is released, in order to keep the consecutive uptime high. That is probably not in the best interest of Tor.
Maybe Tor Weather could look at the flags instead of the consecutive uptime instead. For example, you typically don't lose your Guard or Stable flag due to a reboot.
Robert
: i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email : -Uptime is nearly 100%,
Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime requirement,
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On 13-12-30 07:14 AM, Oliver Schönefeld wrote:
i don't know, who knows how tor-weather sends the t-shirt e-mail. i took a look at the code and found that the mail is sent after 1464 hours of uptime (=61 days), checking every hour.
according to this the downtime due to updates is really not that relevant. i'd guess that there are approx. 3 or 4 updates in the required 2 months, which would "cost" you an equivalent amount of hours. i don't think that it matters whether you get your mail 3 or 4 hours later.
so i think the algorithm is fine.
the algorithm could arguably be finetuned but keep in mind that t-shirts and other adcessories have a cost to produce and ship - money that could be going into research, development, legal support, lobbying, network growth etc. maybe thats the *real* reason every Tor client isnt a relay ;) the t-shirt in the mail was a great milestone and i still wear it proudly, but after a couple years and hundreds of dollars i wouldnt mind the occasional bonus appreciation. what about a lottery-like system for recognizing relays, where you get a ticket by relay fingerprint every N months of uptime and there are multiple winners of goodies from http://www.printfection.com/torprojectstore with quantity based on the project's promotion budget? or could that be more appropriately run by a "friends of Tor" sort of organization that buys stock from the store...
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