A gorgeous visualization of the Tor's data traffic. Feast your eyes! https://torflow.uncharted.software/
Oooh, very neat! Just a quick head's up about an unfortunately naming conflict... https://gitweb.torproject.org/torflow.git/ TorFlow is the name of the codebase that backs the Directory Authorities. That said, the library's obviously not user facing and will likely go away when the DirAuths get a refresh so not necessarily something to worry about. Cheers! -Damian On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Kenneth Freeman <kencf0618@riseup.net> wrote:
A gorgeous visualization of the Tor's data traffic. Feast your eyes!
https://torflow.uncharted.software/
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That is very nice and gives an idea of the need for more geographical diversity. Do you have an idea why there is almost no activity visible from Australia and none from New Zealand? Robert
On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:05, I <beatthebastards@inbox.com> wrote:
That is very nice and gives an idea of the need for more geographical diversity.
Do you have an idea why there is almost no activity visible from Australia and none from New Zealand?
International bandwidth is very expensive in the antipodes. There are very few providers with unlimited or terabyte data plans. Australia just brought in a mandatory data retention law in April/October 2015. Tim Tim Wilson-Brown (teor) teor2345 at gmail dot com PGP 968F094B teor at blah dot im OTR CAD08081 9755866D 89E2A06F E3558B7F B5A9D14F
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:30:53 +1100 Tim Wilson-Brown - teor <teor2345@gmail.com> allegedly wrote:
On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:05, I <beatthebastards@inbox.com> wrote:
That is very nice and gives an idea of the need for more geographical diversity.
Do you have an idea why there is almost no activity visible from Australia and none from New Zealand?
International bandwidth is very expensive in the antipodes. There are very few providers with unlimited or terabyte data plans. Australia just brought in a mandatory data retention law in April/October 2015.
Any idea where that concentration of 16 relays South of Ghana in the Gulf of Guinea is? The traffic there seems disproportionate to the size of the location. Mick (Beautiful and really cool visualisation BTW. Many thanks to the designer(s) and coder(s)). --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On 10 Nov 2015, at 22:57, mick <mbm@rlogin.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:30:53 +1100 Tim Wilson-Brown - teor <teor2345@gmail.com> allegedly wrote:
On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:05, I <beatthebastards@inbox.com> wrote:
That is very nice and gives an idea of the need for more geographical diversity.
Do you have an idea why there is almost no activity visible from Australia and none from New Zealand?
International bandwidth is very expensive in the antipodes. There are very few providers with unlimited or terabyte data plans. Australia just brought in a mandatory data retention law in April/October 2015.
Any idea where that concentration of 16 relays South of Ghana in the Gulf of Guinea is? The traffic there seems disproportionate to the size of the location.
They're at (0, 0), which it looks like GeoIP uses as a placeholder for "unknown". Tim Tim Wilson-Brown (teor) teor2345 at gmail dot com PGP 968F094B teor at blah dot im OTR CAD08081 9755866D 89E2A06F E3558B7F B5A9D14F
On 11/10/2015 04:57 AM, mick wrote:
Any idea where that concentration of 16 relays South of Ghana in the Gulf of Guinea is? The traffic there seems disproportionate to the size of the location.
What jumped out for me were the 109 relays (!) northeast of Wichita, Kansas. At first I assumed Lawrence, it being a college town and all, but it's Potwin, estimated population 441.
Mick
(Beautiful and really cool visualisation BTW. Many thanks to the designer(s) and coder(s)).
Couldn't agree more. Kudos to all involved!
On 11 Nov 2015, at 09:44, Kenneth Freeman <kencf0618@riseup.net> wrote:
On 11/10/2015 04:57 AM, mick wrote:
Any idea where that concentration of 16 relays South of Ghana in the Gulf of Guinea is? The traffic there seems disproportionate to the size of the location.
What jumped out for me were the 109 relays (!) northeast of Wichita, Kansas. At first I assumed Lawrence, it being a college town and all, but it's Potwin, estimated population 441.
Any IP to location mapping is imperfect, which is why location-aware secure protocols are hard. When I looked up the local servers of some big US companies, they were all listed as being on the US west coast, rather than the Australian east coast. That's a pretty big inaccuracy. Tim Tim Wilson-Brown (teor) teor2345 at gmail dot com PGP 968F094B teor at blah dot im OTR CAD08081 9755866D 89E2A06F E3558B7F B5A9D14F
On 11/10/2015 04:19 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote:
On 11 Nov 2015, at 09:44, Kenneth Freeman <kencf0618@riseup.net> wrote:
What jumped out for me were the 109 relays (!) northeast of Wichita, Kansas. At first I assumed Lawrence, it being a college town and all, but it's Potwin, estimated population 441.
Any IP to location mapping is imperfect, which is why location-aware secure protocols are hard.
No kidding! I figured it was an artifact of some sort.
When I looked up the local servers of some big US companies, they were all listed as being on the US west coast, rather than the Australian east coast. That's a pretty big inaccuracy.
I've often wondered how these faux locations are actually generated, which is an interesting study in and of itself. The map is not the territory and all that.
On 11 Nov 2015, at 12:15, Kenneth Freeman <kencf0618@riseup.net> wrote:
On 11/10/2015 04:19 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote:
On 11 Nov 2015, at 09:44, Kenneth Freeman <kencf0618@riseup.net> wrote:
What jumped out for me were the 109 relays (!) northeast of Wichita, Kansas. At first I assumed Lawrence, it being a college town and all, but it's Potwin, estimated population 441.
Any IP to location mapping is imperfect, which is why location-aware secure protocols are hard.
No kidding! I figured it was an artifact of some sort.
When I looked up the local servers of some big US companies, they were all listed as being on the US west coast, rather than the Australian east coast. That's a pretty big inaccuracy.
I've often wondered how these faux locations are actually generated, which is an interesting study in and of itself. The map is not the territory and all that.
The ones I saw seemed to be based on the location of the legal entity controlling the server or data center, not the location of the data center itself. Tim Tim Wilson-Brown (teor) teor2345 at gmail dot com PGP 968F094B teor at blah dot im OTR CAD08081 9755866D 89E2A06F E3558B7F B5A9D14F
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