turning off BridgeDB and the future of moat bridges
Hello, tl;rd: moat bridges are not distributed anymore. Don't shut them down as they are still used but don't create new bridges with "BridgeDistribution moat". BridgeDB has being our bridge distribution system since 2007. For years we have being developed a replacement of BridgeDB[0] called rdsys[1]. And finally yesterday we replaced the last distributors missing in rdsys (email, https and moat) and turned off BridgeDB. The only visible difference is that captchas has disappeared from https://bridges.torproject.org and requesting bridges in Tor Browser gives you a static captcha and doesn't even verify if the answer is correct (until we have the time to update TB to don't request the captcha[2]. The mayor difference for bridge operators is that we don't distribute "moat" bridges anymore. We have merged circumvention settings and moat and now is one distributor handing over "settings" bridges. For now we are going to keep the existing "moat" bridges assigned to "moat" and don't distribute them, so users that have one of those bridges can keep using them without risk of censors finding it. New bridges will not be assigned automatically the moat distributor, only existing bridges or bridges with "BridgeDistribution moat" will stay in this distributor. We plan to watch the usage of moat bridges and evaluate moving them to another distributor depending on the usage[3]. Thank you for running bridges. [0] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/bridgedb/ [1] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/rdsys/ [2] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/42086 [3] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/rdsys/-/issues/233 -- meskio | https://meskio.net/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My contact info: https://meskio.net/crypto.txt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nos vamos a Croatan.
Quoting Toralf Förster via tor-relays (2024-09-30 21:24:34)
On 9/19/24 18:46, meskio wrote:
We plan to watch the usage of moat bridges and evaluate moving them to another distributor depending on the usage[3].
Is there any timeline for the movement?
Not a concrete one. My plan is to review the situation early next month and depending on the usage bring the conversation on what to do with those bridges to our thursdays Anti-Censorship meetings. -- meskio | https://meskio.net/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My contact info: https://meskio.net/crypto.txt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nos vamos a Croatan.
On 10/2/24 13:03, meskio wrote:
Not a concrete one. My plan is to review the situation early next month and depending on the usage bring the conversation on what to do with those bridges to our thursdays Anti-Censorship meetings.
I plan to change set the bridge distribution for my 4 unassigned moat bridges. What methods are currently preferred? -- Toralf
Quoting Toralf Förster via tor-relays (2024-10-02 17:07:56)
On 10/2/24 13:03, meskio wrote:
Not a concrete one. My plan is to review the situation early next month and depending on the usage bring the conversation on what to do with those bridges to our thursdays Anti-Censorship meetings.
I plan to change set the bridge distribution for my 4 unassigned moat bridges. What methods are currently preferred?
I think best right now is to configure them to be distributed over "settings". As this is what will be automatically used by Tor Browser and other clients. -- meskio | https://meskio.net/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My contact info: https://meskio.net/crypto.txt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nos vamos a Croatan.
On Wednesday, 2 October 2024 17:07 Toralf Förster via tor-relays wrote:
On 10/2/24 13:03, meskio wrote:
Not a concrete one. My plan is to review the situation early next month and depending on the usage bring the conversation on what to do with those bridges to our thursdays Anti-Censorship meetings.
I plan to change set the bridge distribution for my 4 unassigned moat bridges. What methods are currently preferred?
I set all to default=any¹. They will then remain on the current distribution method and rdsys will redistribute them when meskio switches. Actually I have all bridges on default=any except for the one 'lox' of course. ¹A few years ago I set up the first 8 bridges rather haphazardly, *2 per IP*. Gus and Nifty then told me that this *wasn't so good*. The rest I only did one via IP. Because different distribution methods were assigned at that time, I set them for the first 8 bridges. But meskio fixed that: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/rdsys/-/issues/106 -- ╰_╯ Ciao Marco! Debian GNU/Linux It's free software and it gives you freedom!
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