Info from my ISP about investigation of tor exits
Here is the original of mail (in copy) from my provider Mail copy: "Hello, Unfortunately your traffic type is full of unwanted events not compatible with our company ethic. Since the first date of activity we've received many abuse reports regarding bruteforce, layer7 attacks, hacking and many others. Currently there is a police investigation regarding one of the 2 servers related to hacking activity against an european country security. The access and content is in interpol custody and we have a restriction on reactivation. Kind regards, George Oprea 24/7 Technical Support Zetservers.com /Romania" --> My answer: Thank you for your information. Good luck. I change my other servers to less trouble. (Change Exits to Relay) Olaf
Olaf Grimm wrote:
Here is the original of mail (in copy) from my provider
Mail copy:
"Hello,
Unfortunately your traffic type is full of unwanted events not compatible with our company ethic. Since the first date of activity we've received many abuse reports regarding bruteforce, layer7 attacks, hacking and many others. Currently there is a police investigation regarding one of the 2 servers related to hacking activity against an european country security. The access and content is in interpol custody and we have a restriction on reactivation.
Kind regards, George Oprea 24/7 Technical Support Zetservers.com /Romania"
--> My answer: Thank you for your information. Good luck. I change my other servers to less trouble. (Change Exits to Relay)
Olaf
Is there anyone left in the interpol that doesn't know what Tor is and how it works? Seriously, it's year 2021. This Technical support person appears to have no clue that the traffic is only blindly forwarded, there's nothing on the server itself that generates the "abusive traffic". Nothing illegal can be found on them (if it's just Tor installed and configured as an exit relay). To be honest, I don't get these hosting providers that are so scared of brute force and layer 7 attacks. These small hosting companies behave like back in the 2000's when everything was so scary, when an IP address usually meant one person or one physical address to bust the door. Rather than changing from Exits to middles, try to explain to this small hosting company what Tor is and how it works. There are plenty of Tor exits in Romania, because it has very good internet, show them some AS number examples from the same country so they will grow some courage that they are not the only ones. Also tell them that there are many thousands of servers worldwide, most of them within the European Union which RO is part of. And leave the Exits to Exits ;)
you did the right thing: shutting down the exits as soon as any potential pressure comes up! Especially if someone mentiones 'police' its time to retreat and shut them all down.
On 3 Jan 2021, at 4:07 PM, s7r <s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:
Olaf Grimm wrote:
Here is the original of mail (in copy) from my provider Mail copy: "Hello, Unfortunately your traffic type is full of unwanted events not compatible with our company ethic. Since the first date of activity we've received many abuse reports regarding bruteforce, layer7 attacks, hacking and many others. Currently there is a police investigation regarding one of the 2 servers related to hacking activity against an european country security. The access and content is in interpol custody and we have a restriction on reactivation. Kind regards, George Oprea 24/7 Technical Support Zetservers.com /Romania" --> My answer: Thank you for your information. Good luck. I change my other servers to less trouble. (Change Exits to Relay) Olaf
Is there anyone left in the interpol that doesn't know what Tor is and how it works? Seriously, it's year 2021.
This Technical support person appears to have no clue that the traffic is only blindly forwarded, there's nothing on the server itself that generates the "abusive traffic". Nothing illegal can be found on them (if it's just Tor installed and configured as an exit relay).
To be honest, I don't get these hosting providers that are so scared of brute force and layer 7 attacks. These small hosting companies behave like back in the 2000's when everything was so scary, when an IP address usually meant one person or one physical address to bust the door.
Rather than changing from Exits to middles, try to explain to this small hosting company what Tor is and how it works. There are plenty of Tor exits in Romania, because it has very good internet, show them some AS number examples from the same country so they will grow some courage that they are not the only ones. Also tell them that there are many thousands of servers worldwide, most of them within the European Union which RO is part of. And leave the Exits to Exits ;)
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On 3. Jan 2021, at 16:07, s7r <s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:
Signed PGP part Olaf Grimm wrote:
Here is the original of mail (in copy) from my provider Mail copy: "Hello, Unfortunately your traffic type is full of unwanted events not compatible with our company ethic. Since the first date of activity we've received many abuse reports regarding bruteforce, layer7 attacks, hacking and many others. Currently there is a police investigation regarding one of the 2 servers related to hacking activity against an european country security. The access and content is in interpol custody and we have a restriction on reactivation. Kind regards, George Oprea 24/7 Technical Support Zetservers.com /Romania" --> My answer: Thank you for your information. Good luck. I change my other servers to less trouble. (Change Exits to Relay) Olaf
Is there anyone left in the interpol that doesn't know what Tor is and how it works? Seriously, it's year 2021.
Four requests for user data last year from security agencies.
This Technical support person appears to have no clue that the traffic is only blindly forwarded, there's nothing on the server itself that generates the "abusive traffic". Nothing illegal can be found on them (if it's just Tor installed and configured as an exit relay).
To be honest, I don't get these hosting providers that are so scared of brute force and layer 7 attacks. These small hosting companies behave like back in the 2000's when everything was so scary, when an IP address usually meant one person or one physical address to bust the door.
Rather than changing from Exits to middles, try to explain to this small hosting company what Tor is and how it works. There are plenty of Tor exits in Romania, because it has very good internet, show them some AS number examples from the same country so they will grow some courage that they are not the only ones. Also tell them that there are many thousands of servers worldwide, most of them within the European Union which RO is part of. And leave the Exits to Exits ;)
Wrong assumption. With a Tor Exit you will use a lot of traffic, this costs them money. With abuse someone has to handle this, this will cost them money. The abuse will be posted online, this will cost them reputation, this will cost them money at the end of the day. Nobody gives a shit about legal, with low prices you will costs them a lot of money. What for? A warm feeling supporting the Tor Network? No company cares … they want to make money. nifty
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