Hi, everyone.
I'm an experienced Tor relay operator and a mostly dormant community member. My main relay these days is on a dedicated server running OpenBSD and moving 3-4 MB/s. It costs me $35/month.
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/CDAB3AE06A8C9C6BF817B3B0F1877A4B914656...
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
Thanks for your time, Michael McConville
Thats bad to lose such a fast exit.
Ever considered crowdsourcing to get the needed money?
Best, Volker
Am 07.03.2016 um 03:01 schrieb Michael McConville mmcco@mykolab.com:
Hi, everyone.
I'm an experienced Tor relay operator and a mostly dormant community member. My main relay these days is on a dedicated server running OpenBSD and moving 3-4 MB/s. It costs me $35/month.
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/CDAB3AE06A8C9C6BF817B3B0F1877A4B914656...
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
Thanks for your time, Michael McConville _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On 3/6/16, Volker Mink volker.mink@gmx.de wrote:
Thats bad to lose such a fast exit.
And the diversity of an OpenBSD one at that.
Somebody could just turn off one of their Linux relays and send this guy the monthly fee instead.
For what it's worth, the primary goal of the Toroken Incentive was to make it possible for relay operators such as Michael to continue operating. If adding a cryptocurrency incentive is now on the table, I am down for resuming work on it.
-V
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Volker Mink volker.mink@gmx.de wrote:
Thats bad to lose such a fast exit.
Ever considered crowdsourcing to get the needed money?
Best, Volker
Am 07.03.2016 um 03:01 schrieb Michael McConville mmcco@mykolab.com:
Hi, everyone.
I'm an experienced Tor relay operator and a mostly dormant community member. My main relay these days is on a dedicated server running OpenBSD and moving 3-4 MB/s. It costs me $35/month.
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/CDAB3AE06A8C9C6BF817B3B0F1877A4B914656...
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
Thanks for your time, Michael McConville _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Hi Michael,
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
if you're willing to give me a paypal address (or banking account infos if you're within the European SEPA zone) I will chip in three months.
Thanks for running a fast relay!
Renke
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 02:34:02PM +0100, renke@mobtm.com wrote:
Hi Michael,
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
if you're willing to give me a paypal address (or banking account infos if you're within the European SEPA zone) I will chip in three months.
Thanks for running a fast relay!
Thanks Renke for helping to sustain the relay community!
And thanks Michael for finding and keeping a good US-based exit relay location.
It's also clear that more mechanisms for sustainability would be helpful for situations like this.
The Tor Project itself alas doesn't want to get into the business of operating relays (or paying for them, which is like operating them if you're into legal metaphors). That's because we are already in an interesting legal position ("you designed the car that the user drove away in"), so the EFFs and ACLUs of the world have recommended we not complicate it with other interesting legal positions.
That said, there are a bunch of umbrella organizations created for the purpose of operating Tor relays, especially exit relays: https://www.torservers.net/partners.html I wonder if there's a good way to get relays in Michael's situation to "join" one of these umbrellas, for better continuity.
--Roger
renke@mobtm.com wrote:
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
if you're willing to give me a paypal address (or banking account infos if you're within the European SEPA zone) I will chip in three months.
Awesome, thanks! :-) My Paypal address is mmcconville@mykolab.com.
Thanks for running a fast relay!
My pleasure - thanks for making it possible.
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 10:13:30AM -0800, Michael McConville wrote:
renke@mobtm.com wrote:
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
if you're willing to give me a paypal address (or banking account infos if you're within the European SEPA zone) I will chip in three months.
Awesome, thanks! :-) My Paypal address is mmcconville@mykolab.com.
Thanks for running a fast relay!
My pleasure - thanks for making it possible.
Michael,
If you have a web page tracking your needs and with a donate button (ideally a Paypal reocurring donation button), I'd be happy to tweet a link from @noisetor - I suspect you'll pick up the necessary support in no time flat!
-andy
I will also chip in with some funding. DO you accept Bitcoin or Monero, i do not like to you use PayPal for funding an TOR relay ;D If so, please post the addresses, so we can fund a fast running relay. Also tell again, how much it costs you per month.
If you guys agree, the funding can be done monthwise by individuals or via crowdfunding, i am fine with both.
Kind regards, elrippo.
On Dienstag, 8. März 2016, 10:59:51 Andy Isaacson wrote:
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 10:13:30AM -0800, Michael McConville wrote:
renke@mobtm.com wrote:
Sadly, I have to shut it down at least temporarily if no one can help me pay for it. Is anyone interested? You can search the mailing lists to see that I've been contributing for a few years, and I can give more verification if you'd like.
if you're willing to give me a paypal address (or banking account infos if you're within the European SEPA zone) I will chip in three months.
Awesome, thanks! :-) My Paypal address is mmcconville@mykolab.com.
Thanks for running a fast relay!
My pleasure - thanks for making it possible.
Michael,
If you have a web page tracking your needs and with a donate button (ideally a Paypal reocurring donation button), I'd be happy to tweet a link from @noisetor - I suspect you'll pick up the necessary support in no time flat!
-andy _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:17:44 +0100 elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
I will also chip in with some funding. DO you accept Bitcoin or Monero, i do not like to you use PayPal for funding an TOR relay ;D If so, please post the addresses, so we can fund a fast running relay. Also tell again, how much it costs you per month.
If you guys agree, the funding can be done monthwise by individuals or via crowdfunding, i am fine with both.
Sorry but reading these kinds of things is kind of demoralizing. --
I'm not going to do a "me too" post, but some of us pay for relays with their own funds for years, which easily do 30-40 MB/sec combined, receiving zero donations -- then some guy with a 3 MB/sec relay comes around and people jump at the chance to send him hundreds of Euros just because.
Oh I know mine are not Exit relays, so those are not special enough, nothing to see here, move along.
Roman Mamedov wrote:
Sorry but reading these kinds of things is kind of demoralizing. --
I'm not going to do a "me too" post, but some of us pay for relays with their own funds for years, which easily do 30-40 MB/sec combined, receiving zero donations -- then some guy with a 3 MB/sec relay comes around and people jump at the chance to send him hundreds of Euros just because.
I'm a senior in college and I've been running relays on my own dime since I was a senior in high school. This exit relay had to come down unless someone chipped in, so I thought I'd ask. Also, it's a 6-8 MB/s relay, unless you're only counting one direction of traffic.
Oh I know mine are not Exit relays, so those are not special enough, nothing to see here, move along.
For what it's worth, exit relays generally cost more and are somewhat more work because you have to:
o find a company willing to host it, which rules out most hands-off budget providers
o pay for a dedicated server (exits should usually be on dedicated servers, IMO, because their security is more critical)
o deal with abuse complaints
o make sure the packet filter policies and DNS are configured and working properly
I think it makes sense for the community to fund certain experienced members' relays. Some of us are good operators but aren't at a stage in life where we can consistently spend hundreds of dollars a year on hosting. I'd be interested to hear ideas for funding infrastructure beyond oniontip.com.
Hi Roman,
Sorry but reading these kinds of things is kind of demoralizing. --
I kind of understand your sentiment but
Oh I know mine are not Exit relays, so those are not special enough, nothing to see here, move along.
this is (at least for me) not true - Michael's mail was the first I remember with a plea for support and currently it's easier for me to donate money* instead of running my own relay.
Unfair? Maybe. But not the fault of the thread starter and I'm sorry if it felt as if I do not appreciate other relay operators.
Renke
*) on top of my more silent donations to other organisations around data privacy
I wrote:
Sorry but reading these kinds of things is kind of demoralizing.
+1 Perhaps crowdfunding a pool from which subsidies could be distributed would be fairer.
It isn't sufficient. I've got $6-10 from it in more than a year, and almost all of that was because I was an "early adopter". Maybe it could be better designed, but I'm not confident that that model will ever be particularly useful.
Part of the reason is that the donations are portioned solely on bandwidth share, along with guard and exit status. That discourages carefully maintained relays on carefully selected hosts. In the worst case (although I don't find it too likely, simply because there will never be enough money), it could lead to a "get a free-ish VPS if you run Tor on it!" situation.
I don't feel too obligated to defend my request, though. It's reasonable for people donating large amounts of time and resources to occasionally ask for support.
I do not think so, if you ask for funding you will get funding, so what's the problem. Leave your BTC address with monthly costs here and we will see how much funding you get Just try it out!
Kind regards, elrippo
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:17:44 +0100 elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
I will also chip in with some funding. DO you accept Bitcoin or Monero, i do not like to you use PayPal for funding an TOR relay ;D If so, please post the addresses, so we can fund a fast running relay. Also tell again, how much it costs you per month.
If you guys agree, the funding can be done monthwise by individuals or via crowdfunding, i am fine with both.
Sorry but reading these kinds of things is kind of demoralizing. --
I'm not going to do a "me too" post, but some of us pay for relays with their own funds for years, which easily do 30-40 MB/sec combined, receiving zero donations -- then some guy with a 3 MB/sec relay comes around and people jump at the chance to send him hundreds of Euros just because.
Oh I know mine are not Exit relays, so those are not special enough, nothing to see here, move along.
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 05:20:44 +0100 elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
if you ask for funding you will get funding, so what's the problem. Leave your BTC address with monthly costs here and we will see how much funding you get Just try it out!
Well, let's try that!
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B486925DC901969CCE2B371E93740CF98C3053...
The contribution BTC addr. is 15y79y3vc1RjidRTUc8vPb7fejrvi1FAdg
Monthly cost for us is 0.-£$€ as we do not accept/spend money for recurring fees (for similar reasons to those Roger outlined earlier).
We've been running strong with >200mbit/s over two years now and we'll do what we do even without your funding however BTC donations are much appreciated and will be used for hardware upgrades.
Cheers.
It losing much performance over time. Whats the reason for this?
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org] Im Auftrag von tor@as250.net Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. März 2016 12:25 An: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Betreff: Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay funding
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 05:20:44 +0100 elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
if you ask for funding you will get funding, so what's the problem. Leave your BTC address with monthly costs here and we will see how much funding you get Just try it out!
Well, let's try that!
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B486925DC901969CCE2B371E93740CF98C3053...
The contribution BTC addr. is 15y79y3vc1RjidRTUc8vPb7fejrvi1FAdg
Monthly cost for us is 0.-£$€ as we do not accept/spend money for recurring fees (for similar reasons to those Roger outlined earlier).
We've been running strong with >200mbit/s over two years now and we'll do what we do even without your funding however BTC donations are much appreciated and will be used for hardware upgrades.
Cheers. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:38:03 +0100 "Volker Mink" volker.mink@gmx.de wrote:
It losing much performance over time. Whats the reason for this?
The curve matches pretty much our hardware/network upgrade cycle. As more services/hosts are provisioned the performance decreases, then an upgrade happens. (as september last year)
Other factors probably also play a role. If anyone can contribute their opinion based on their experience and the publicly available data, feel free!
Cheers.
Why are you then complaining if you do not accept money for running your relays?!
I personally do not have any problems with contributing, you earn my full respect, but I do have problems with relay operators who are complaining about others getting funded.
Maybe a change in your strategy would make the life of your precious and fast relays a bit easier...
Am 09. März 2016 12:24:33 MEZ, schrieb tor@as250.net:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 05:20:44 +0100 elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
if you ask for funding you will get funding, so what's the problem. Leave your BTC address with monthly costs here and we will see how much funding you get Just try it out!
Well, let's try that!
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B486925DC901969CCE2B371E93740CF98C3053...
The contribution BTC addr. is 15y79y3vc1RjidRTUc8vPb7fejrvi1FAdg
Monthly cost for us is 0.-£$€ as we do not accept/spend money for recurring fees (for similar reasons to those Roger outlined earlier).
We've been running strong with >200mbit/s over two years now and we'll do what we do even without your funding however BTC donations are much appreciated and will be used for hardware upgrades.
Cheers. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I agree with that. Not everyone has a job that earns them a load of money and they still want to operate a relay. I personally spent almost the same money for servers as I can afford to buy food - Life can be hard ;)
Am 2016-03-09 um 14:51 schrieb Elrippo:
Why are you then complaining if you do not accept money for running your relays?!
I personally do not have any problems with contributing, you earn my full respect, but I do have problems with relay operators who are complaining about others getting funded.
Maybe a change in your strategy would make the life of your precious and fast relays a bit easier...
Am 09. März 2016 12:24:33 MEZ, schrieb tor@as250.net:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 05:20:44 +0100 elrippo <elrippo@elrippoisland.net> wrote: if you ask for funding you will get funding, so what's the problem. Leave your BTC address with monthly costs here and we will see how much funding you get Just try it out! Well, let's try that! https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B486925DC901969CCE2B371E93740CF98C30539D The contribution BTC addr. is 15y79y3vc1RjidRTUc8vPb7fejrvi1FAdg Monthly cost for us is 0.-£$€ as we do not accept/spend money for recurring fees (for similar reasons to those Roger outlined earlier). We've been running strong with >200mbit/s over two years now and we'll do what we do even without your funding however BTC donations are much appreciated and will be used for hardware upgrades. Cheers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays-- Want to trade Bitcoin for physical GOLD -> https://www.vaultoro.com/?a=100345
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That's a reason for me to contribute in funding people/organisations who are willing to spend a lot of time and money!
I agree with that. Not everyone has a job that earns them a load of money and they still want to operate a relay. I personally spent almost the same money for servers as I can afford to buy food - Life can be hard ;)
Am 2016-03-09 um 14:51 schrieb Elrippo:
Why are you then complaining if you do not accept money for running your relays?!
I personally do not have any problems with contributing, you earn my full respect, but I do have problems with relay operators who are complaining about others getting funded.
Maybe a change in your strategy would make the life of your precious and fast relays a bit easier...
Am 09. März 2016 12:24:33 MEZ, schrieb tor@as250.net:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 05:20:44 +0100 elrippo <elrippo@elrippoisland.net> wrote: if you ask for funding you will get funding, so what's the problem. Leave your BTC address with monthly costs here and we will see how much funding you get Just try it out! Well, let's try that! https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B486925DC901969CCE2B371E93740CF98C30539D The contribution BTC addr. is 15y79y3vc1RjidRTUc8vPb7fejrvi1FAdg Monthly cost for us is 0.-£$€ as we do not accept/spend money for recurring fees (for similar reasons to those Roger outlined earlier). We've been running strong with >200mbit/s over two years now and we'll do what we do even without your funding however BTC donations are much appreciated and will be used for hardware upgrades. Cheers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:51:12 +0100 Elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
Why are you then complaining if you do not accept money for running your relays?!
I believe you have some apologizing to do -- and not to me;
check the "From:" headers of stuff you have been replying to more carefully.
Dear Roman, please let us not be picky, i did not address you or anybody else but tor@as250.net in the specific mail. I am writing to a list so i believe everybody knows who is addressed on that list for various reasons. In case you are not satisfied with my awnser i apologize for "spamming" someone personally involved in this list, thus this person was not even addressed in the mail in question.
Kind regards, elrippo
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:51:12 +0100 Elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
Why are you then complaining if you do not accept money for running your relays?!
I believe you have some apologizing to do -- and not to me;
check the "From:" headers of stuff you have been replying to more carefully.
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:51:12 +0100 Elrippo elrippo@elrippoisland.net wrote:
Why are you then complaining if you do not accept money for running your relays?!
Where do you see any complaining? I guess you misunderstood my mail.
If other people are getting support in keeping their relays up and running, that's fine and I am quite happy for them. I have re-read my mail multiple times and can't fathom how one could interpret that mail as "complaining". It merely states that - although we don't need any funding for operational expenses - donations for upgrades are more than welcome.
I personally do not have any problems with contributing, you earn my full respect, but I do have problems with relay operators who are complaining about others getting funded.
Where did I do that? Why would I possibly complain about anyone funding other relays? This makes no sense. It's good for the network if that happens and allows diversity.
Maybe a change in your strategy would make the life of your precious and fast relays a bit easier...
I have shut down our "precious and fast relays" recently as we decided unanimously that the tor-community does not need or appreciate our support. Just to make it clear: "appreciate" in this context doesn't mean funding. All those yearswe didn't get as much as a "thank you!" from anyone. The >500mbit/s of bandwidth from our diversely peered network which we continuously shoveled into the tor network for the past years can now be used for more worthwhile projects.
How's that for a "change in strategy"?
Cheers.
p.s. sorry for the delayed reply. I just peek into the folder with this list every now and then, due to the high volume and bad SNR. As I don't have any further interest in the tor project I'll be also unsubscribing shortly. So long and thanks for all the fish!
On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:40:03 +0000, tor@as250.net wrote: ...
our support. Just to make it clear: "appreciate" in this context doesn't mean funding. All those yearswe didn't get as much as a "thank you!" from anyone.
Operating tor nodes is - like operating any invisible infrastructure - inherently thankless.
...
How's that for a "change in strategy"?
Well, sad. So long, and thanks for the exit bandwith past.
Andreas
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:31:34 +0200 Andreas Krey a.krey@gmx.de wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:40:03 +0000, tor@as250.net wrote: ...
our support. Just to make it clear: "appreciate" in this context doesn't mean funding. All those years we didn't get as much as a "thank you!" from anyone.
Operating tor nodes is - like operating any invisible infrastructure - inherently thankless.
Absolutely. Most of the infrastructure we provide on that basis and it is ok! The reason for running that exit node was that we believed it would contribute towards a positive impact in many peoples lives.
The "appreciation" part was rather directed to those individuals who know me/us personally and only to them. You know who you are. No bad feelings though! :-)
...
How's that for a "change in strategy"?
Well, sad. So long, and thanks for the exit bandwith past.
It surely was a fun time. Including the abuse-report handling.
In the end however, it is no longer appropriate for us to contribute to the Tor Project so we decided that we have no reasonable choice left, but to discontinue the service.
Cheers.
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:29:01PM +0200, tor@as250.net wrote:
Absolutely. Most of the infrastructure we provide on that basis and it is ok! The reason for running that exit node was that we believed it would contribute towards a positive impact in many peoples lives.
Thanks for contributing while you did!
I'm remembering way back when I would mail all the people running relays to see if they needed anything. Then there was the phase where we got some funding for Moritz to do relay operator advocacy and coordination: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/turning-funding-more-exit-relays and that push also led to some cool sites like https://compass.torproject.org/
Among all the things that we need to do next, I think getting a relay advocate / coordinator in place would sure be useful. I think there are so many things that we need, though, that it's going to be a while yet before we get such a person in place.
In the mean time, hang tight everybody, and let's continue to have a community who helps each other, and thanks all for your contributions.
--Roger
Hear Hear, Roger and Petrusko,
Nonetheless, I would like the promised t-shirts before next year.
Robert
Haha yes! T-shirts are a good way to start conversations with people who don't really know what is this "onion" !? And be proud to wear it ! :p
Registration is open ?!! ;p
Le 04/08/2016 à 17:26, I a écrit :
Hear Hear, Roger and Petrusko,
Nonetheless, I would like the promised t-shirts before next year.
Robert
On 8/3/2016 10:13 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:29:01PM +0200, tor@as250.net wrote:
Absolutely. Most of the infrastructure we provide on that basis and it is ok! The reason for running that exit node was that we believed it would contribute towards a positive impact in many peoples lives.
Thanks for contributing while you did!
I'm remembering way back when I would mail all the people running relays to see if they needed anything. Then there was the phase where we got some funding for Moritz to do relay operator advocacy and coordination: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/turning-funding-more-exit-relays and that push also led to some cool sites like https://compass.torproject.org/
Among all the things that we need to do next, I think getting a relay advocate / coordinator in place would sure be useful. I think there are so many things that we need, though, that it's going to be a while yet before we get such a person in place.
In the mean time, hang tight everybody, and let's continue to have a community who helps each other, and thanks all for your contributions.
--Roger
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Well stated and thank-you, Roger. I agree 100% with the need for a more 'visible' advocacy in this age of headline reading and jumping to false conclusions for no factual reason.
If you were running relays just to get recognized, you were probably doing it did the wrong reason.
I think that the purpose was not being famous or recognized but just having more kindness. The fact is that a lot of Tor users don't even know which relay they are using and how to get the informations of the exit relay they're using, meaning that they will actually never thank anyone of running exit or middle relay...
Hoping something is not good for the mind, if you don't, and receive some "thank you" it will be a great gift.
I'm running a middle relay, and I know that noone will thank me, and I don't care because thank to us, people will use our relay to have internet-informations without censorship or relaying censitive informations from countries where dictature is in place for exemple...
On 3 Aug 2016 14:39, "Tristan" supersluether@gmail.com wrote:
If you were running relays just to get recognized, you were probably doing it did the wrong reason.
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
And I think a lot of users doesn't know what is there "behind". As always in computer's world...
Now I'm able to explain quickly (what I've understood) this network to some friends/family, who were using Tor a long time ago before I've started to have fun with contributing a little to the network.
How many people around us know how 'it's working", how many are thinking about that, are interested to know ? They are connecting the smartphone to Mc Do's wifi, and are happy to read Facebook... receive emails... etc. But how it's possible to make it work ? They don't care about that, /"it's working and it's cool !"/ They don't know what is a NAS at their work, what is an IP, what is domain with AD, why those IT guys are sooo boring with those passwords (they don't love our pet's name as password... rah!!). Now my friends/family have quickly understood how "normal people" can contribute to Tor, but I'm sure some months after /"it's working and it's cool !"/. Nothing more. And I think a lot of "little" operators like me are doing this by loving computer's world (linux, network, dev,...), having fun to investigate why it's not working nice, or try to make it better, and of course understand the need to have an "underground" network for all the reasons we know. It's cool to contribute, and if it can help censored people, and if it's better for privacy to the others, it's beautiful !
The day I'll not be able to have some time/money to make nodes working, I'll sadly "poweroff" them, and thank all people (devs, operators, mailing lists...) for their work, to have this package working easily with this support ! apt-get install tor - nano torrc (bridge/relay/exit to contribute)- service tor restart - it's working. Nice? If it's not working, the community is here. Nice! Thanks.
2016-03-08 23:15 GMT+01:00 Roman Mamedov rm@romanrm.net:
Sorry but reading these kinds of things is kind of demoralizing. --
I'm not going to do a "me too" post, but some of us pay for relays with their own funds for years, which easily do 30-40 MB/sec combined, receiving zero donations -- then some guy with a 3 MB/sec relay comes around and people jump at the chance to send him hundreds of Euros just because.
Oh I know mine are not Exit relays, so those are not special enough, nothing to see here, move along.
We have a saying in Italian that says "Chiedere è lecito, rispondere è cortesia". Roughly translated "Asking is allowed, answering is courtesy", that is you can ask for whatever you want, maybe somebody will respond, or don't, whatever.
I am happy to see that there is a community where people can ask for and receive help in many forms.
Of course, in general, if somebody wants to chip in funding remember that you can: * donate to Tor project * get together to run machines * donate to groups that run many machines (see torservers.net)
We could start talking about which is the most efficient way to spend money, but should we?
C
On 03/09/2016 07:09 AM, Cristian Consonni wrote:
We have a saying in Italian that says "Chiedere è lecito, rispondere è cortesia". Roughly translated "Asking is allowed, answering is courtesy", that is you can ask for whatever you want, maybe somebody will respond, or don't, whatever.
I am happy to see that there is a community where people can ask for and receive help in many forms.
Of course, in general, if somebody wants to chip in funding remember that you can:
- donate to Tor project
- get together to run machines
- donate to groups that run many machines (see torservers.net)
We could start talking about which is the most efficient way to spend money, but should we?
Serendipitously I was telling my tax lady about the Tor Project and the Electronic Frontier Foundation today. Being support troop on that level is good. Being able to run a stable array of Tor exit nodes because you've been able to acquire the necessary institutional knowledge due to having reliable money stream is also good.
Presumably the fiscal and corporate diversity of the Tor network makes for hybrid vigor. There's an old engineering maxim (which I believe dates back to Voltaire) that "The best is the enemy of the good enough." Accordingly you may plant yourself on Tor's fitness landscape wherever you want. The environment is quite varied.
elrippo wrote:
I will also chip in with some funding.
DO you accept Bitcoin or Monero, i do not like to you use PayPal for funding an TOR relay ;D
If so, please post the addresses, so we can fund a fast running relay.
Definitely: 1KjWtgsrSRJ6mBMjAuKhqSGvEPVJ8rRoqV
Also tell again, how much it costs you per month.
$35/month.
Thanks so much! I'm impressed by and grateful for everyone's generosity.
Michael
I'll kick in a few month also... On Mar 8, 2016 5:26 PM, "Michael McConville" mmcco@mykolab.com wrote:
elrippo wrote:
I will also chip in with some funding.
DO you accept Bitcoin or Monero, i do not like to you use PayPal for funding an TOR relay ;D
If so, please post the addresses, so we can fund a fast running relay.
Definitely: 1KjWtgsrSRJ6mBMjAuKhqSGvEPVJ8rRoqV
Also tell again, how much it costs you per month.
$35/month.
Thanks so much! I'm impressed by and grateful for everyone's generosity.
Michael _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
You are welcome :D There you go -> https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/6e0a510aafe64e021ce910c01ea8be87578e8cf01ad279...
Kind regards, elrippo
elrippo wrote:
I will also chip in with some funding.
DO you accept Bitcoin or Monero, i do not like to you use PayPal for funding an TOR relay ;D
If so, please post the addresses, so we can fund a fast running relay.
Definitely: 1KjWtgsrSRJ6mBMjAuKhqSGvEPVJ8rRoqV
Also tell again, how much it costs you per month.
$35/month.
Thanks so much! I'm impressed by and grateful for everyone's generosity.
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FWIW I started my own ISP just so I didn't have to worry about getting shutdown due to abuse complaints etc.
Paying all the fees (RIPE.net, co-location, servers and bandwidth) is _incredibly_ expensive but we run 4x Exit nodes without interference, 12 relays and plenty of "private" bridges.
https://globe.torproject.org/#/search/query=BrassHorn https://BrassHornCommunications.uk https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/uk.brasshorncomms.html
Since we're on the topic of funding / crowdfunding we were considering launching a crowdfunding round to acquire the capital to build a direct broadband-to-tor product; https://twitter.com/BrassHornComms/status/702843519724077057 (and offset our current running costs). Is this something that people would be interested in (as a product and as a crowdfunding exercise)?
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