Hello, I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden. I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true? Torizen.
Have you informed EDIS in advance? As far as I know if you plan to run exit nodes on a EDIS server you have to tell them so you get into a private VLAN. Greetings On 2015-01-09 13:00, Torizen wrote:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Hello Torizen, I don't think that they ment the law. Check the ToS of EDIS to see if it's true. ~Josef Am 09.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Torizen:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner:
Hello Torizen,
I don't think that they ment the law. Check the ToS of EDIS to see if it's true.
~Josef
Am 09.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Torizen:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Hello, They explicitly stated it was "due to new laws in this country". Regarding the TOS, http://wiki.edis.at/faq:termsofservice, the only restriction I see is "EUCD is to be followed depending on circumstances". Torizen.
See under "Banned applications": * Tor/i2p/similar exit servers (bridge, entry and middle are fine until further notice) After reading the document I found out that I'm not allowed to do anything with the servers :-) TeamSpeak is also not allowed ... But that's just a side note. ~ Josef Am 09.01.2015 um 13:20 schrieb Torizen:
Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner:
Hello Torizen,
I don't think that they ment the law. Check the ToS of EDIS to see if it's true.
~Josef
Am 09.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Torizen:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Hello,
They explicitly stated it was "due to new laws in this country". Regarding the TOS, http://wiki.edis.at/faq:termsofservice, the only restriction I see is "EUCD is to be followed depending on circumstances".
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Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner:
See under "Banned applications":
* Tor/i2p/similar exit servers (bridge, entry and middle are fine until further notice)
After reading the document I found out that I'm not allowed to do anything with the servers :-) TeamSpeak is also not allowed ... But that's just a side note.
~ Josef
Am 09.01.2015 um 13:20 schrieb Torizen:
Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner:
Hello Torizen,
I don't think that they ment the law. Check the ToS of EDIS to see if it's true.
~Josef
Am 09.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Torizen:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Hello,
They explicitly stated it was "due to new laws in this country". Regarding the TOS, http://wiki.edis.at/faq:termsofservice, the only restriction I see is "EUCD is to be followed depending on circumstances".
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Only Tor exit relays are against EDIS TOS. As far as I can tell EDIS is also listed on the GoodBadISPs on the Tor wiki where it states bridges and non-exit relays are allowed. What worries me is the fact that according to them some new law here in Spain forbids Tor relays. Torizen.
On 2015-01-09 12:35:02 (+0000), Torizen wrote:
Only Tor exit relays are against EDIS TOS. As far as I can tell EDIS is also listed on the GoodBadISPs on the Tor wiki where it states bridges and non-exit relays are allowed.
What worries me is the fact that according to them some new law here in Spain forbids Tor relays.
Then it would be interesting if they were so kind to point to that alleged new law that was put in place. And if indeed no tor relays are allowed, you could update the GoodBadISPs. -- David Serrano PGP: 1BCC1A1F280A01F9
David Serrano:
On 2015-01-09 12:35:02 (+0000), Torizen wrote:
Only Tor exit relays are against EDIS TOS. As far as I can tell EDIS is also listed on the GoodBadISPs on the Tor wiki where it states bridges and non-exit relays are allowed.
What worries me is the fact that according to them some new law here in Spain forbids Tor relays.
Then it would be interesting if they were so kind to point to that alleged new law that was put in place. And if indeed no tor relays are allowed, you could update the GoodBadISPs.
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Hello, After asking them to tell me exactly what law was forbidding Tor relays from being placed in Spain I've been told I can still run the relay "for now". Torizen.
On January 9, 2015 4:40:51 PM Torizen <torizen@rambler.ru> wrote: Hi,
David Serrano:
On 2015-01-09 12:35:02 (+0000), Torizen wrote:
Only Tor exit relays are against EDIS TOS. As far as I can tell EDIS is also listed on the GoodBadISPs on the Tor wiki where it states bridges and non-exit relays are allowed.
What worries me is the fact that according to them some new law here in Spain forbids Tor relays.
Then it would be interesting if they were so kind to point to that alleged new law that was put in place. And if indeed no tor relays are allowed, you could update the GoodBadISPs.
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Hello,
After asking them to tell me exactly what law was forbidding Tor relays from being placed in Spain I've been told I can still run the relay "for now".
Scare tactics or just incompetent supporter ? What's your impression ?
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On January 9, 2015 4:40:51 PM Torizen <torizen@rambler.ru> wrote:
Hi,
David Serrano:
On 2015-01-09 12:35:02 (+0000), Torizen wrote:
Only Tor exit relays are against EDIS TOS. As far as I can tell
EDIS is
also listed on the GoodBadISPs on the Tor wiki where it states bridges and non-exit relays are allowed.
What worries me is the fact that according to them some new law here in Spain forbids Tor relays.
Then it would be interesting if they were so kind to point to that alleged new law that was put in place. And if indeed no tor relays are allowed, you could update the GoodBadISPs.
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Hello,
After asking them to tell me exactly what law was forbidding Tor relays from being placed in Spain I've been told I can still run the relay "for now".
Scare tactics or just incompetent supporter ? What's your impression ? I don't really know what to think. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. The end result is that I had to reduce the badwidth Tor is allowed to use from 2500 KB/s to 2000 KB/s and that the relay has been offline for two days.
Torizen.
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Hi, it seems the ISP just changed its Terms of Service (TOS). I'm sure that a non-exit relay shouldn't be a (legal) problem in Spain. Juris Vetra https://www.torservers.net/ Am 09.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Torizen:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Juris - torservers.net:
Hi,
it seems the ISP just changed its Terms of Service (TOS). I'm sure that a non-exit relay shouldn't be a (legal) problem in Spain.
Juris Vetra https://www.torservers.net/
Am 09.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Torizen:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Hello, How do you know that? EDIS' ISP in Spain is Comvive Servidores S.L. but I can't find their TOS anywhere. Torizen.
There is no new law in Spain regarding non-exit relays. So EDIS or the ISP in Spain has changed its TOS. Would be nice to get further informations about this. Juris Vetra https://www.torservers.net/ Am 09.01.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Torizen:
Hello,
How do you know that? EDIS' ISP in Spain is Comvive Servidores S.L. but I can't find their TOS anywhere.
Torizen.
A recent court case in Austria, where a Tor exit relay operator was brought to court because of traffic passing through his tor node, has made EDIS reconsider their Tor policy. EDIS are an Austrian company. On 9 January 2015 at 12:00, Torizen <torizen@rambler.ru> wrote:
Hello,
I've been running a non-exit relay on a EDIS VPS located in Spain for 5 months. Yesterday, without warning, I received an email because apparently I was abussing the network and my VPS was suspended. I was asked to reduce the amount of traffic Tor is allowed to use and after that I received another email where they claimed running a Tor relay, or any other "anonymization software", is now forbidden.
I'm from Spain and this is the first time I've heard of this. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Torizen -
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