Good afternoon fellow relay operators,
My exit node hosted with Greypony IT (ephesysnull - 2426F096372BCAB360B75D463AEBD7B7B8BFF0FF) has gone offline, greyponyit.com is also offline, and emails to Conrad Rockenhaus sent over the last week have received no replies. Has anyone else received a response from him? Make your day great, Isaac Grover, Senior I.T. Consultant Aileron I.T. - "Practical & Proactive I.T. Solutions"
O: 715-377-0440tel:715-425-0440, F:715-690-1029tel:715-690-1029, W: www.aileronit.comhttp://www.aileronit.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/IsaacGrover/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqrwZNFKdR-guKtuQzFPObQ
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 19:50:06 +0000 "Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T." igrover@aileronit.com wrote:
Good afternoon fellow relay operators,
My exit node hosted with Greypony IT (ephesysnull - 2426F096372BCAB360B75D463AEBD7B7B8BFF0FF) has gone offline, greyponyit.com is also offline, and emails to Conrad Rockenhaus sent over the last week have received no replies. Has anyone else received a response from him? Make your day great, Isaac Grover, Senior I.T. Consultant Aileron I.T. - "Practical & Proactive I.T. Solutions"
O: 715-377-0440tel:715-425-0440, F:715-690-1029tel:715-690-1029, W: www.aileronit.comhttp://www.aileronit.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/IsaacGrover/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqrwZNFKdR-guKtuQzFPObQ
He resolved an issue with my relay and replied to my email 24.09.2018 within couple of hours when I wrote him. Didn't need to bother him since then.
Yes, since some days. I cancel my accounts and looking forward to other provider. greyponyit.com and XOA-Portal are offline. Two weeks ago my server in the USA gone offline, two day ago my server in Europe too. No reaction after two e-mails...
Bye, Conrad!
Olaf
Am 02.10.2018 um 22:12 schrieb Dmitrii Tcvetkov:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 19:50:06 +0000 "Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T." igrover@aileronit.com wrote:
Good afternoon fellow relay operators,
My exit node hosted with Greypony IT (ephesysnull - 2426F096372BCAB360B75D463AEBD7B7B8BFF0FF) has gone offline, greyponyit.com is also offline, and emails to Conrad Rockenhaus sent over the last week have received no replies. Has anyone else received a response from him? Make your day great, Isaac Grover, Senior I.T. Consultant Aileron I.T. - "Practical & Proactive I.T. Solutions"
O: 715-377-0440tel:715-425-0440, F:715-690-1029tel:715-690-1029, W: www.aileronit.comhttp://www.aileronit.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/IsaacGrover/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqrwZNFKdR-guKtuQzFPObQ
He resolved an issue with my relay and replied to my email 24.09.2018 within couple of hours when I wrote him. Didn't need to bother him since then. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Hey Olaf,
Sorry to hear you’re switching providers. Greypony wants to make this matter right with you. Conrad likely has a lot of things to deal with on the business side of things. He’s the only one who can restore XOA and various DC Locations. I’ve asked him to follow up on your emails.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:41 PM Olaf Grimm jeep665@posteo.de wrote:
Yes, since some days. I cancel my accounts and looking forward to other provider. greyponyit.com and XOA-Portal are offline. Two weeks ago my server in the USA gone offline, two day ago my server in Europe too. No reaction after two e-mails...
Bye, Conrad!
Olaf
Am 02.10.2018 um 22:12 schrieb Dmitrii Tcvetkov:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 19:50:06 +0000 "Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T." igrover@aileronit.com wrote:
Good afternoon fellow relay operators,
My exit node hosted with Greypony IT (ephesysnull - 2426F096372BCAB360B75D463AEBD7B7B8BFF0FF) has gone offline, greyponyit.com is also offline, and emails to Conrad Rockenhaus sent over the last week have received no replies. Has anyone else received a response from him? Make your day great, Isaac Grover, Senior I.T. Consultant Aileron I.T. - "Practical & Proactive I.T. Solutions"
O: 715-377-0440tel:715-425-0440, F:715-690-1029tel:715-690-1029, W: www.aileronit.comhttp://www.aileronit.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/IsaacGrover/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqrwZNFKdR-guKtuQzFPObQ
He resolved an issue with my relay and replied to my email 24.09.2018 within couple of hours when I wrote him. Didn't need to bother him since then. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Ok, I know about his problem, but he want to be a business man. I am a customer. I am a human. i want to wait one week and give his "company" a chance to come back. Content of my mail was to get an payment info (contract) for hosting.
What should i think? We have to distinguish between "make a Tor relay for fun" or business. I want to buy resources and expect it to run stable.
Olaf
Am 03.10.2018 um 00:49 schrieb Nathaniel Suchy:
Hey Olaf,
Sorry to hear you’re switching providers. Greypony wants to make this matter right with you. Conrad likely has a lot of things to deal with on the business side of things. He’s the only one who can restore XOA and various DC Locations. I’ve asked him to follow up on your emails.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:41 PM Olaf Grimm jeep665@posteo.de wrote:
Yes, since some days. I cancel my accounts and looking forward to other provider. greyponyit.com and XOA-Portal are offline. Two weeks ago my server in the USA gone offline, two day ago my server in Europe too. No reaction after two e-mails...
Bye, Conrad!
Olaf
Am 02.10.2018 um 22:12 schrieb Dmitrii Tcvetkov:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 19:50:06 +0000 "Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T." igrover@aileronit.com wrote:
Good afternoon fellow relay operators,
My exit node hosted with Greypony IT (ephesysnull - 2426F096372BCAB360B75D463AEBD7B7B8BFF0FF) has gone offline, greyponyit.com is also offline, and emails to Conrad Rockenhaus sent over the last week have received no replies. Has anyone else received a response from him? Make your day great, Isaac Grover, Senior I.T. Consultant Aileron I.T. - "Practical & Proactive I.T. Solutions"
O: 715-377-0440tel:715-425-0440, F:715-690-1029tel:715-690-1029, W: www.aileronit.comhttp://www.aileronit.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/IsaacGrover/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqrwZNFKdR-guKtuQzFPObQ
He resolved an issue with my relay and replied to my email 24.09.2018 within couple of hours when I wrote him. Didn't need to bother him since then. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay mailing list?
On 3. Oct 2018, at 03:29, I beatthebastards@inbox.com wrote:
That has nothing to do with this list.
On 10/02/2018 06:52 PM, niftybunny wrote:
A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay mailing list?
On 3. Oct 2018, at 03:29, I beatthebastards@inbox.com wrote:
That has nothing to do with this list.
Why don't we just wait for Conrad to report?
It would be sad if Greypony is dead, but it's off-topic to comment about him personally.
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200 niftybunny abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net wrote:
A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay mailing list?
Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is one thing, but by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:22:59 -0400 Nathaniel Suchy me@lunorian.is wrote:
Another update: Conrad hired a contractor to replace a broken switch and fix the cabling so the redundant switch would take over in the event of a failure again. An SLA credit will be issued to affected customers.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
Do you REALLY think that this is exactly the place where breaking news about a Contractor getting Hired to Replace a Switch and Fix the Cabling at some company is of interest to most people? And honestly this entire thing seems like a set-up for two drama queens to feel important about themselves.
Roman Mamedov:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200 niftybunny abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net wrote:
A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay mailing list?
Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is one thing, but by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
Agree strongly.
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:22:59 -0400 Nathaniel Suchy me@lunorian.is wrote:
Another update: Conrad hired a contractor to replace a broken switch and fix the cabling so the redundant switch would take over in the event of a failure again. An SLA credit will be issued to affected customers.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
Do you REALLY think that this is exactly the place where breaking news about a Contractor getting Hired to Replace a Switch and Fix the Cabling at some company is of interest to most people? And honestly this entire thing seems like a set-up for two drama queens to feel important about themselves.
Yes to the sentiment. This list is not a platform for any provider. Can anyone imagine if even one or two other providers conducted themselves similarly on relays@? It's been stated politely before by teor, but much of the greypony discussion (positive and negative) has no place here.
The term "drama queen" is not appropriate either though. It has sexist connotations. The irony is that the most over-sensitive person I know in the public light who does perform dramatically and irrationally happens to be the president of a certain country, and he identifies strongly as a male.
g
George wrote:
Roman Mamedov:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200 niftybunny abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net wrote:
A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay mailing list?
Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is one thing, but by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
Agree strongly.
+1 First of all, we are not talking about an ISP in the real sense of the word. Is is OVH who is the ISP. This is a re-seller of an ISP, but this is not the point.
The point is, with all due respect, this really has to stop. it has been so much noise about this, more than any CVE vulnerability we had. This is not what this mailing list is meant for. This is not Conrad Rockenhaus blog or support forums. If so much people on this list are interested in this topic these people should setup their own community, own mail list and own blogs / forums where they can talk about Greypony until the Earth as a planet becomes square. But it is off topic here. This statement could have been sent directly to their customers, not to everyone on the list.
Would you like me to start sending every day emails about how I bought a provider independent prefix and contracted 2 upstream providers with BGP sessions and 4gbps bwidth? I done this to avoid being thrown over and over by hosters as I changed more than 5 in the last 2 years. I didn't notify anyone about it as I don't think anyone should care.
For example the BGP session with my backup provider failed today for 45 minutes. Would you like to hear about it? I sent them an email. They fixed it. Hmmm.
On the other side of things, I am really sorry about the health incident, which is of course sad, and I wish Conrad a fast recovery and best wishes for his health and his family.
We wouldn’t have to make these threads if community members like Isaac didn’t make threads about a lack of response from one team member.
We could: A) Inform everyone B) Inform a few customers and hope we don’t miss any C) Ignore the problem and have more negative threads created about us.
Whatever we do it turns out negative for someone.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM s7r s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
George wrote:
Roman Mamedov:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200 niftybunny abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net wrote:
A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay mailing
list?
Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is one
thing, but
by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
Agree strongly.
+1 First of all, we are not talking about an ISP in the real sense of the word. Is is OVH who is the ISP. This is a re-seller of an ISP, but this is not the point.
The point is, with all due respect, this really has to stop. it has been so much noise about this, more than any CVE vulnerability we had. This is not what this mailing list is meant for. This is not Conrad Rockenhaus blog or support forums. If so much people on this list are interested in this topic these people should setup their own community, own mail list and own blogs / forums where they can talk about Greypony until the Earth as a planet becomes square. But it is off topic here. This statement could have been sent directly to their customers, not to everyone on the list.
Would you like me to start sending every day emails about how I bought a provider independent prefix and contracted 2 upstream providers with BGP sessions and 4gbps bwidth? I done this to avoid being thrown over and over by hosters as I changed more than 5 in the last 2 years. I didn't notify anyone about it as I don't think anyone should care.
For example the BGP session with my backup provider failed today for 45 minutes. Would you like to hear about it? I sent them an email. They fixed it. Hmmm.
On the other side of things, I am really sorry about the health incident, which is of course sad, and I wish Conrad a fast recovery and best wishes for his health and his family.
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On October 4, 2018 4:54:54 PM EDT, Nathaniel Suchy me@lunorian.is wrote:
We wouldn’t have to make these threads if community members like Isaac didn’t make threads about a lack of response from one team member.
We could: A) Inform everyone B) Inform a few customers and hope we don’t miss any C) Ignore the problem and have more negative threads created about us.
Whatever we do it turns out negative for someone.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM s7r s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
George wrote:
Roman Mamedov:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200 niftybunny abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net wrote:
A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay
mailing
list?
Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is
one
thing, but
by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
Agree strongly.
+1 First of all, we are not talking about an ISP in the real sense of
the
word. Is is OVH who is the ISP. This is a re-seller of an ISP, but
this
is not the point.
The point is, with all due respect, this really has to stop. it has
been
so much noise about this, more than any CVE vulnerability we had.
This
is not what this mailing list is meant for. This is not Conrad Rockenhaus blog or support forums. If so much people on this list are interested in this topic these people should setup their own
community,
own mail list and own blogs / forums where they can talk about
Greypony
until the Earth as a planet becomes square. But it is off topic here. This statement could have been sent directly to their customers, not
to
everyone on the list.
Would you like me to start sending every day emails about how I
bought a
provider independent prefix and contracted 2 upstream providers with
BGP
sessions and 4gbps bwidth? I done this to avoid being thrown over and over by hosters as I changed more than 5 in the last 2 years. I
didn't
notify anyone about it as I don't think anyone should care.
For example the BGP session with my backup provider failed today for
45
minutes. Would you like to hear about it? I sent them an email. They fixed it. Hmmm.
On the other side of things, I am really sorry about the health incident, which is of course sad, and I wish Conrad a fast recovery
and
best wishes for his health and his family.
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Please go start your own mailing list for support/updates/etc.
Matt
Hi Matt,
That project is now in the works. Meanwhile will other community members continue creating threads about our organization? It has to stop on both ends otherwise we’re forced to respond when people create threads about us.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:24 PM Matt Traudt pastly@torproject.org wrote:
On October 4, 2018 4:54:54 PM EDT, Nathaniel Suchy me@lunorian.is wrote:
We wouldn’t have to make these threads if community members like Isaac didn’t make threads about a lack of response from one team member.
We could: A) Inform everyone B) Inform a few customers and hope we don’t miss any C) Ignore the problem and have more negative threads created about us.
Whatever we do it turns out negative for someone.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM s7r s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
George wrote:
Roman Mamedov:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200 niftybunny abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net wrote:
A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay
mailing list?
Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is one
thing, but
by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
Agree strongly.
+1 First of all, we are not talking about an ISP in the real sense of the word. Is is OVH who is the ISP. This is a re-seller of an ISP, but this is not the point.
The point is, with all due respect, this really has to stop. it has been so much noise about this, more than any CVE vulnerability we had. This is not what this mailing list is meant for. This is not Conrad Rockenhaus blog or support forums. If so much people on this list are interested in this topic these people should setup their own community, own mail list and own blogs / forums where they can talk about Greypony until the Earth as a planet becomes square. But it is off topic here. This statement could have been sent directly to their customers, not to everyone on the list.
Would you like me to start sending every day emails about how I bought a provider independent prefix and contracted 2 upstream providers with BGP sessions and 4gbps bwidth? I done this to avoid being thrown over and over by hosters as I changed more than 5 in the last 2 years. I didn't notify anyone about it as I don't think anyone should care.
For example the BGP session with my backup provider failed today for 45 minutes. Would you like to hear about it? I sent them an email. They fixed it. Hmmm.
On the other side of things, I am really sorry about the health incident, which is of course sad, and I wish Conrad a fast recovery and best wishes for his health and his family.
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Please go start your own mailing list for support/updates/etc.
Matt _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On 10/04/2018 04:43 PM, Nathaniel Suchy wrote:
Hi Matt,
That project is now in the works. Meanwhile will other community members continue creating threads about our organization? It has to stop on both ends otherwise we’re forced to respond when people create threads about us.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
I get how you'd feel that way, given that you've been part of the Tor community for quite some time.
On the other hand, people create threads frequently about the fate of their relay(s) hosted by various firms. And, with few exceptions, I don't recall seeing replies here from those firms. In a few cases, operators have posted messages received from providers. But there have rarely been replies. Once or twice in the last few years, as I recall.
I can't say that I really care. Traffic and storage are inexpensive these days, and it's easy to filter messages. So what's the harm?
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:24 PM Matt Traudt pastly@torproject.org wrote:
On October 4, 2018 4:54:54 PM EDT, Nathaniel Suchy me@lunorian.is wrote:
We wouldn’t have to make these threads if community members like Isaac didn’t make threads about a lack of response from one team member.
We could: A) Inform everyone B) Inform a few customers and hope we don’t miss any C) Ignore the problem and have more negative threads created about us.
Whatever we do it turns out negative for someone.
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM s7r s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
George wrote:
Roman Mamedov:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200 niftybunny abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net wrote:
> A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay
mailing list?
Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is one
thing, but
by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
Agree strongly.
+1 First of all, we are not talking about an ISP in the real sense of the word. Is is OVH who is the ISP. This is a re-seller of an ISP, but this is not the point.
The point is, with all due respect, this really has to stop. it has been so much noise about this, more than any CVE vulnerability we had. This is not what this mailing list is meant for. This is not Conrad Rockenhaus blog or support forums. If so much people on this list are interested in this topic these people should setup their own community, own mail list and own blogs / forums where they can talk about Greypony until the Earth as a planet becomes square. But it is off topic here. This statement could have been sent directly to their customers, not to everyone on the list.
Would you like me to start sending every day emails about how I bought a provider independent prefix and contracted 2 upstream providers with BGP sessions and 4gbps bwidth? I done this to avoid being thrown over and over by hosters as I changed more than 5 in the last 2 years. I didn't notify anyone about it as I don't think anyone should care.
For example the BGP session with my backup provider failed today for 45 minutes. Would you like to hear about it? I sent them an email. They fixed it. Hmmm.
On the other side of things, I am really sorry about the health incident, which is of course sad, and I wish Conrad a fast recovery and best wishes for his health and his family.
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Please go start your own mailing list for support/updates/etc.
Matt _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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