Hello, everybody,
Quickly, I write from Barcelona, I am interested in contributing to tor with exit nodes, but I am concerned about legal issues.
I see that there is only 1 active exit node in Spain, and I wonder if it is so dangerous in my country :-)
Any comment or feedback is welcome.
Thanks and beers to everyone!
Irr4z
Hi Irr4Z,
I note you sent an email directly to me via the contact details from the exit node.
attached... Hola Paul,
Te escribo porque he visto que eres el único nodo activo de salida en tor, en españa. Estoy interesado en contribuir con un exit node en españa, y quería conocer tu experiencia, ya que entre mi asociación hay ciertas dudas de si esto podría ser un problema legal.
Muchas gracias!
Response...
I will say I have never had a problem running an exit in Spain. I get 5 to 7 abuse emails a year. I respond to the complaints within 24 hours and have had no recourse.
I'm a resident of Australia and run it in Spain as it is cost effective compared to here.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Paul PS - hmm beer...
137CF322859E400455E457DB920F65FFDD222CDF
----- Original Message ----- From: "irr4z" irraz@r2brain.com To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 7:25:07 PM Subject: [tor-relays] Exit node in spain
Hello, everybody,
Quickly, I write from Barcelona, I am interested in contributing to tor
with exit nodes, but I am concerned about legal issues.
I see that there is only 1 active exit node in Spain, and I wonder if it
is so dangerous in my country :-)
Any comment or feedback is welcome.
Thanks and beers to everyone!
Irr4z
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Hi Paul,
Perfect, thanks for the answer, if you help me!
Irr4z
On 2020-12-02 22:07, Paul Templeton wrote:
Hi Irr4Z,
I note you sent an email directly to me via the contact details from the exit node.
attached... Hola Paul,
Te escribo porque he visto que eres el único nodo activo de salida en tor, en españa. Estoy interesado en contribuir con un exit node en españa, y quería conocer tu experiencia, ya que entre mi asociación hay ciertas dudas de si esto podría ser un problema legal.
Muchas gracias!
Response...
I will say I have never had a problem running an exit in Spain. I get 5 to 7 abuse emails a year. I respond to the complaints within 24 hours and have had no recourse.
I'm a resident of Australia and run it in Spain as it is cost effective compared to here.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Paul PS - hmm beer...
137CF322859E400455E457DB920F65FFDD222CDF
----- Original Message ----- From: "irr4z" irraz@r2brain.com To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 7:25:07 PM Subject: [tor-relays] Exit node in spain
Hello, everybody,
Quickly, I write from Barcelona, I am interested in contributing to tor
with exit nodes, but I am concerned about legal issues.
I see that there is only 1 active exit node in Spain, and I wonder if it
is so dangerous in my country :-)
Any comment or feedback is welcome.
Thanks and beers to everyone!
Irr4z
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On 03.12.2020 08:52, irr4z wrote:
Hi Paul,
Perfect, thanks for the answer, if you help me!
Irr4z
Catalonia and Basque Country are the most liberal in Spain. Find a hosting company in Barcelona.
Finally these are my new exit nodes:
https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/noconname
On 2020-12-09 21:04, lists@for-privacy.net wrote:
On 03.12.2020 08:52, irr4z wrote:
Hi Paul,
Perfect, thanks for the answer, if you help me!
Irr4z
Catalonia and Basque Country are the most liberal in Spain. Find a hosting company in Barcelona.
Hi irr4z,
Spaniard relay operator here, sorry I missed the thread until now.
El 9/12/20 a les 21:04, lists@for-privacy.net ha escrit:
Catalonia and Basque Country are the most liberal in Spain. Find a hosting company in Barcelona.
Regardless of this assumptions note that: both regions are under the same regulations as the rest of the country AND usually suffer the harshest treatment by Spain's law enforcement system (district attorneys, courts, police forces, etc).
I think the key to success is in this previous email:
El 2/12/20 a les 22:07, Paul Templeton ha escrit:
I will say I have never had a problem running an exit in Spain. I get 5 to 7 abuse emails a year. I respond to the complaints within 24 hours and have had no recourse.
I'm a resident of Australia and run it in Spain as it is cost effective compared to here.
I think this is it: if you don't live in Spain, feel welcome to safely host your relays in Spain data centers. But regarding the initial message
El 2/12/20 a les 9:25, irr4z ha escrit:
Quickly, I write from Barcelona, I am interested in contributing to tor with exit nodes, but I am concerned about legal issues.
I see that there is only 1 active exit node in Spain, and I wonder if it is so dangerous in my country
While I think it isn't inherently dangerous to run exit relays in Spain (you won't be severely prosecuted because of some abuse complaints, etc) Spain has an established authoritarian trend specially careless about digital freedoms.
This turned out pretty clear at the end of 2017 with the arrest of a sysadmin working at the foundation that manages the .cat TLD, the raid of Catalonia's InfoTech & Telecom Center, the prosecution of random people for forking a website backup in github (not to mention the folk who uploaded it first), the overall censorship conducted by major ISPs, etc.
I apology for this rant, there is a ton more info for those who are interested about it, but this facts lead me to this advice: keep a low profile. Don't participate in demonstrations, don't take side in political arguments (very publicly, like in twitter or alike), don't make activism other than the tor relay, don't rant on the king, specially don't join labor or any kind of syndicates nor political parties. Neither run for president. Those are the things you will prosecuted for, the relay will only be a pretext to raid you or arrest you or turn the public against you and probably start a shaming campaign against the Tor network.
Rephrased: censorship yourself. So you could argue this is an overall stupid advice. And I wish it was. That said,
El 9/12/20 a les 21:23, irr4z ha escrit:
Finally these are my new exit nodes
I celebrate your courage and I look forward the day the global pandemic softens so the community can meet again (I missed last Barcelona relay-operator meetup). I'm very much interested in your experiences. I'll try to stay tuned but don't hesitate to update any incident in this list or in private.
Salut
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