Re: [tor-relays] OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo
On 14 Aug 2014 08:34, Ed Carter <ecarter9@riseup.net> wrote:
Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:
On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:
Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)
but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
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I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.
My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.
Tom
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Agreed, this is pretty awesome. It allows independent relay operators to receive donations no matter where they are in the world whether or not they are affiliated with any group.
The donations are transparent, since the money can be followed on the Bitcoin blockchain to ensure that your donation made it to the individual addresses of the relay operators.
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I like it! I've already made AUD $0.05!!! ;) M.
How much does it actually pay out? Like is it worth it? I run a fairly slow small node Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 13, 2014, at 17:05, Mike Patton <m_patton@me.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2014 08:34, Ed Carter <ecarter9@riseup.net> wrote:
Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:
On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote: Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...) but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.
My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.
Tom
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Agreed, this is pretty awesome. It allows independent relay operators to receive donations no matter where they are in the world whether or not they are affiliated with any group.
The donations are transparent, since the money can be followed on the Bitcoin blockchain to ensure that your donation made it to the individual addresses of the relay operators.
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I like it! I've already made AUD $0.05!!! ;)
M. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
That depends entirely on how much people donate. At the bottom of their front page it currently states that 335.26 mBTC have been donated so far. Ie, a third of a bitcoin. It's impossible to predict how much might be donated in future. On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin address in a config file to find out. Mike * on the Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 05:23:27PM -0700, IceFish wrote:
How much does it actually pay out? Like is it worth it? I run a fairly slow small node
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 13, 2014, at 17:05, Mike Patton <m_patton@me.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2014 08:34, Ed Carter <ecarter9@riseup.net> wrote:
Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:
On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote: Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...) but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.
My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.
Tom
_______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Agreed, this is pretty awesome. It allows independent relay operators to receive donations no matter where they are in the world whether or not they are affiliated with any group.
The donations are transparent, since the money can be followed on the Bitcoin blockchain to ensure that your donation made it to the individual addresses of the relay operators.
_______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I like it! I've already made AUD $0.05!!! ;)
M. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:
On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin address in a config file to find out.
Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make it a commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different legal position? Best regards, Alexander
Good point... Sent from my iPhone On Thursday, August 14, 2014, Alexander Dietrich <alexander@dietrich.cx> wrote:
On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:
On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin
address in a config file to find out.
Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make it a commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different legal position?
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I was thinking about it and I will stick torproject's wallet - 1K7P2FovDXyyEuZc87YUgPtmR34P62MYmn from: https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate.html.en >> https://bitpay.com/invoice?id=XzYL2D1neP496n79LyTSV4 Is that correct one? Thanks, -mateusz On 14 August 2014 20:24, threehundredthirtytwofishes <threehundredthirtytwofishes@gmail.com> wrote:
Good point...
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On Thursday, August 14, 2014, Alexander Dietrich <alexander@dietrich.cx> wrote:
On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:
On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin address in a config file to find out.
Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make it a commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different legal position?
Best regards, Alexander _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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Looks like it. Does this only apply for exit nodes? On Thursday, August 14, 2014, blahu77 . <blahu77@gmail.com> wrote:
I was thinking about it and I will stick torproject's wallet - 1K7P2FovDXyyEuZc87YUgPtmR34P62MYmn from: https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate.html.en >> https://bitpay.com/invoice?id=XzYL2D1neP496n79LyTSV4
Is that correct one?
Thanks, -mateusz
On 14 August 2014 20:24, threehundredthirtytwofishes <threehundredthirtytwofishes@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
Good point...
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On Thursday, August 14, 2014, Alexander Dietrich <alexander@dietrich.cx <javascript:;>> wrote:
On 2014-08-14 10:25, Mike Cardwell wrote:
On the other hand. It costs you nothing to stick a bitcoin address in a config file to find out.
Not being a lawyer, does accepting money for running a Tor relay make
it a
commercial operation (in some countries) and put you in a different legal position?
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