Running relay on vmware ? is it secure to use Tor on virtual systems ?
Hi, is it secure to run Tor Relay / Tor browser on Vmware ? On my Windows 10 desktop I have installed VMware Player where is running Ubuntu. I`m using that system to browse internet using Tor Browser. Is it secure to use Tor browser on virtual systems ? Cheers DLugasny
A bit confused. Are you running a Tor Exit or the Tor Browser Bundle? Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:32 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
is it secure to run Tor Relay / Tor browser on Vmware ? On my Windows 10 desktop I have installed VMware Player where is running Ubuntu. I`m using that system to browse internet using Tor Browser. Is it secure to use Tor browser on virtual systems ?
Cheers DLugasny
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Sorry Nathaniel, my english is not so well. General I`m using Virtual operating system + Tor Web Browser to browse the internet. My question is, is it secure ? Second question, is it make sense to run relay on the virtual system ? Cheers Dlugasny Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 2, 2018 7:43 PM, Nathaniel Suchy <me@lunorian.is> wrote:
A bit confused. Are you running a Tor Exit or the Tor Browser Bundle?
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:32 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
is it secure to run Tor Relay / Tor browser on Vmware ? On my Windows 10 desktop I have installed VMware Player where is running Ubuntu. I`m using that system to browse internet using Tor Browser. Is it secure to use Tor browser on virtual systems ?
Cheers DLugasny
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In most cases, there’s not an additional risk by using a VM. If your adversary has a VM escape they could potentially exploit the host OS. If you’re that important QubesOS may be a better option for you. That said you’re harming performance without many security gains. As for a relay, can you be more specific. Are you hosting a Tor Exit in your home? Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:52 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Sorry Nathaniel, my english is not so well.
General I`m using Virtual operating system + Tor Web Browser to browse the internet. My question is, is it secure ?
Second question, is it make sense to run relay on the virtual system ?
Cheers Dlugasny
Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 2, 2018 7:43 PM, Nathaniel Suchy <me@lunorian.is> wrote:
A bit confused. Are you running a Tor Exit or the Tor Browser Bundle?
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:32 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
is it secure to run Tor Relay / Tor browser on Vmware ? On my Windows 10 desktop I have installed VMware Player where is running Ubuntu. I`m using that system to browse internet using Tor Browser. Is it secure to use Tor browser on virtual systems ?
Cheers DLugasny
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No, I`m not hosting any Tor exits in my apartment. Only Relay without exit. I have some pool of vmware systems with public ips, they are running doing nothing... so I have decided to put some non exit tor traffic to them. Thats why I`m asking. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:05 PM, Nathaniel Suchy <me@lunorian.is> wrote:
In most cases, there’s not an additional risk by using a VM. If your adversary has a VM escape they could potentially exploit the host OS. If you’re that important QubesOS may be a better option for you. That said you’re harming performance without many security gains.
As for a relay, can you be more specific. Are you hosting a Tor Exit in your home?
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:52 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Sorry Nathaniel, my english is not so well.
General I`m using Virtual operating system + Tor Web Browser to browse the internet. My question is, is it secure ?
Second question, is it make sense to run relay on the virtual system ?
Cheers Dlugasny
Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 2, 2018 7:43 PM, Nathaniel Suchy <me@lunorian.is> wrote:
A bit confused. Are you running a Tor Exit or the Tor Browser Bundle?
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:32 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
is it secure to run Tor Relay / Tor browser on Vmware ? On my Windows 10 desktop I have installed VMware Player where is running Ubuntu. I`m using that system to browse internet using Tor Browser. Is it secure to use Tor browser on virtual systems ?
Cheers DLugasny
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Ideally the relays should be run on a machine (or in this case a VM) dedicated to running the relay. If the VM (or hardware) is seized, you don't want the disk you browse the internet from, to be the same as your Tor relays disk. Also it's recommended to run Tor Browser directly on your home computer instead of on a VPS for example to minimize the points of failure with ability to spy on your traffic. (e.g. your VPS provider could silently record a VNC Server, but recording your home laptop would be a bit harder to do without your knowledge [not impossible, but harder]). Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:38 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
No, I`m not hosting any Tor exits in my apartment. Only Relay without exit. I have some pool of vmware systems with public ips, they are running doing nothing... so I have decided to put some non exit tor traffic to them. Thats why I`m asking.
Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:05 PM, Nathaniel Suchy <me@lunorian.is> wrote:
In most cases, there’s not an additional risk by using a VM. If your adversary has a VM escape they could potentially exploit the host OS. If you’re that important QubesOS may be a better option for you. That said you’re harming performance without many security gains.
As for a relay, can you be more specific. Are you hosting a Tor Exit in your home?
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:52 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Sorry Nathaniel, my english is not so well.
General I`m using Virtual operating system + Tor Web Browser to browse the internet. My question is, is it secure ?
Second question, is it make sense to run relay on the virtual system ?
Cheers Dlugasny
Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 2, 2018 7:43 PM, Nathaniel Suchy <me@lunorian.is> wrote:
A bit confused. Are you running a Tor Exit or the Tor Browser Bundle?
Cordially, Nathaniel Suchy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:32 PM <dlugasny@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
is it secure to run Tor Relay / Tor browser on Vmware ? On my Windows 10 desktop I have installed VMware Player where is running Ubuntu. I`m using that system to browse internet using Tor Browser. Is it secure to use Tor browser on virtual systems ?
Cheers DLugasny
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