Google Groups Exit Policy Reject?
Hi All, I've been forwarded a request to block Google Groups IPs due to some abuse or various usenet groups. Is anyone else rejecting from these IPs, and should I do the same? Thanks, Jonathan
Hi Jonathan, Yes, we did receive a similar request some time ago. We are not going to block whole Google Groups because of single/rare incidents. On 24.02.2013 23:00, Jonathan Baker-Bates wrote:
Hi All,
I've been forwarded a request to block Google Groups IPs due to some abuse or various usenet groups.
Is anyone else rejecting from these IPs, and should I do the same?
-- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
++ 24/02/13 23:08 +0000 - Jonathan Baker-Bates:
Yes, we did receive a similar request some time ago. We are not going to block whole Google Groups because of single/rare incidents.
OK thanks Moritz - I'll ignore that then.
Personaly, I would do this different: I'd explain what Tor, why it is important to have Tor around and how the complainer could block traffic from Tor exit nodes if really needed. Ignoring doesn't explain the importance - or, if it does, in an arogant way. -- Rejo Zenger . <rejo@zenger.nl> . 0x21DBEFD4 . <https://rejo.zenger.nl> GPG encrypted e-mail preferred . +31.6.39642738 . @rejozenger
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:15:01AM +0100, Rejo Zenger wrote:
I'd explain what Tor, why it is important to have Tor around and how the complainer could block traffic from Tor exit nodes if really needed.
In this particular case, I assume the complainer is "some dude upset about what's getting posted via google groups". So the usual answer (https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#Bans) doesn't apply to him, since he can't make any decisions on behalf of Google. I can see how he'd be frustrated, and how he'd resort to mailing Tor exit relay operators one-by-one in hopes of solving his problem. But I can also see how it won't solve his problem. --Roger
I should point out that the complaint wasn't sent to me directly, but somebody I know saw it on a usenet group and forwarded it, asking whether the Tor community was aware of it. So as Roger points out, it's not a "routine" complaint, and in fact the complainant appears to know about and understand Tor. The complaint is in fact against Google so I think ignoring it would be the right course of action in this case as I don't want to be caught up in some anti-Google argument, regardless of what the detail of the issues are. Jonathan On 25 February 2013 10:52, Roger Dingledine <arma@mit.edu> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:15:01AM +0100, Rejo Zenger wrote:
I'd explain what Tor, why it is important to have Tor around and how the complainer could block traffic from Tor exit nodes if really needed.
In this particular case, I assume the complainer is "some dude upset about what's getting posted via google groups". So the usual answer (https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#Bans) doesn't apply to him, since he can't make any decisions on behalf of Google.
I can see how he'd be frustrated, and how he'd resort to mailing Tor exit relay operators one-by-one in hopes of solving his problem.
But I can also see how it won't solve his problem.
--Roger
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