Smallest, cheapest, lightest computer for tor relay
I've got a few family members across the country who have broadband they are not using for more than email and social. I wanted to go about setting up a relay at each house can can be run with minimum amount of power and attention. I was considering something like RaspPi or Compute Stick. Main questions (1) anyone else use these or something similar? (2) recommend of strong alternatives suggested? (3) is there something smaller, lighter and cheaper that will do the job? (*) did I maybe miss something obvious that needs attention? Thank you.
The Raspberry Pi 2 runs Tor just fine, but I have no idea what speeds you can expect since my upload is only 1Mbps. I was using Raspbian Jessie with the official Tor repos. Once everything was installed and set up, the system could literally just sit on a shelf with power and ethernet and be completely fine. On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Tamara West <sinister.hama@googlemail.com> wrote:
I've got a few family members across the country who have broadband they are not using for more than email and social. I wanted to go about setting up a relay at each house can can be run with minimum amount of power and attention. I was considering something like RaspPi or Compute Stick.
Main questions (1) anyone else use these or something similar? (2) recommend of strong alternatives suggested? (3) is there something smaller, lighter and cheaper that will do the job? (*) did I maybe miss something obvious that needs attention?
Thank you.
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A raspberry will do fine as long as you do not expect huge speeds. The CPU is not capable of pushing data very fast. Expect somewhere around 0,5 Mbyte/s (4 Mbit/s). If you go smaller and cheaper you will not reach even that speed. So it depends on what kind of speeds you are after. A relay does not need a lot of attention. Just make sure that you update the OS and Tor every now and then. There are plenty of guides on how to do it which can be found by googling. This is a good example which has a link to Atlas with some relays running on Rpi: https://github.com/DFRI/dfri-rpi-tor ________________________________ From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org> on behalf of Tamara West <sinister.hama@googlemail.com> Sent: 16 October 2016 21:22 To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Smallest, cheapest, lightest computer for tor relay I've got a few family members across the country who have broadband they are not using for more than email and social. I wanted to go about setting up a relay at each house can can be run with minimum amount of power and attention. I was considering something like RaspPi or Compute Stick. Main questions (1) anyone else use these or something similar? (2) recommend of strong alternatives suggested? (3) is there something smaller, lighter and cheaper that will do the job? (*) did I maybe miss something obvious that needs attention? Thank you.
I do run a exit node on a raspberry today. And a raspberry pi 3 can handle 50Mbit/sec (~5Mb/sec both directions.) without any problems. So I would say go for it. The pi are excellent to use as a Tor node. /Fredrik ---- On sö, 16 okt 2016 22:37:51 +0200Farid Joubbi <joubbi@kth.se> wrote ---- A raspberry will do fine as long as you do not expect huge speeds. The CPU is not capable of pushing data very fast. Expect somewhere around 0,5 Mbyte/s (4 Mbit/s). If you go smaller and cheaper you will not reach even that speed. So it depends on what kind of speeds you are after. A relay does not need a lot of attention. Just make sure that you update the OS and Tor every now and then. There are plenty of guides on how to do it which can be found by googling. This is a good example which has a link to Atlas with some relays running on Rpi: https://github.com/DFRI/dfri-rpi-tor From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org> on behalf of Tamara West <sinister.hama@googlemail.com> Sent: 16 October 2016 21:22 To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Smallest, cheapest, lightest computer for tor relay I've got a few family members across the country who have broadband they are not using for more than email and social. I wanted to go about setting up a relay at each house can can be run with minimum amount of power and attention. I was considering something like RaspPi or Compute Stick. Main questions (1) anyone else use these or something similar? (2) recommend of strong alternatives suggested? (3) is there something smaller, lighter and cheaper that will do the job? (*) did I maybe miss something obvious that needs attention? Thank you. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
The RPi is good to use as relay with your requirement. You can expect a total transfer rate of 11 MBytes (100 Mbits/sec). If you use Raspberry Pi 1 Model B+ you cannot use the official Tor repository, but the Raspbian repos (armel) do it as well. The Pi 1 has a significant lower power consumption with only one core and 32-bit OS. As an Onion Router it does it job very well. You can buy a used one, too. Regards, On 16.10.2016 23:26, Fredrik Olofsson wrote:
I do run a exit node on a raspberry today.
And a raspberry pi 3 can handle 50Mbit/sec (~5Mb/sec both directions.) without any problems.
So I would say go for it. The pi are excellent to use as a Tor node.
/Fredrik
---- On sö, 16 okt 2016 22:37:51 +0200*Farid Joubbi <joubbi@kth.se>* wrote ----
A raspberry will do fine as long as you do not expect huge speeds.
The CPU is not capable of pushing data very fast.
Expect somewhere around 0,5 Mbyte/s (4 Mbit/s).
If you go smaller and cheaper you will not reach even that speed.
So it depends on what kind of speeds you are after.
A relay does not need a lot of attention. Just make sure that you update the OS and Tor every now and then.
There are plenty of guides on how to do it which can be found by googling.
This is a good example which has a link to Atlas with some relays running on Rpi:
https://github.com/DFRI/dfri-rpi-tor
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*From:* tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org>> on behalf of Tamara West <sinister.hama@googlemail.com <mailto:sinister.hama@googlemail.com>> *Sent:* 16 October 2016 21:22 *To:* tor-relays@lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> *Subject:* [tor-relays] Smallest, cheapest, lightest computer for tor relay
I've got a few family members across the country who have broadband they are not using for more than email and social. I wanted to go about setting up a relay at each house can can be run with minimum amount of power and attention. I was considering something like RaspPi or Compute Stick.
Main questions (1) anyone else use these or something similar? (2) recommend of strong alternatives suggested? (3) is there something smaller, lighter and cheaper that will do the job? (*) did I maybe miss something obvious that needs attention?
Thank you. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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I believe the 2 and 3 are the same price as the 1 though. At any rate, you should probably compile the latest Tor from source if you can't use the official repository. On Oct 16, 2016 5:12 PM, "diffusae" <punasipuli@t-online.de> wrote:
The RPi is good to use as relay with your requirement. You can expect a total transfer rate of 11 MBytes (100 Mbits/sec). If you use Raspberry Pi 1 Model B+ you cannot use the official Tor repository, but the Raspbian repos (armel) do it as well. The Pi 1 has a significant lower power consumption with only one core and 32-bit OS. As an Onion Router it does it job very well. You can buy a used one, too.
Regards,
On 16.10.2016 23:26, Fredrik Olofsson wrote:
I do run a exit node on a raspberry today.
And a raspberry pi 3 can handle 50Mbit/sec (~5Mb/sec both directions.) without any problems.
So I would say go for it. The pi are excellent to use as a Tor node.
/Fredrik
---- On sö, 16 okt 2016 22:37:51 +0200*Farid Joubbi <joubbi@kth.se>* wrote ----
A raspberry will do fine as long as you do not expect huge speeds.
The CPU is not capable of pushing data very fast.
Expect somewhere around 0,5 Mbyte/s (4 Mbit/s).
If you go smaller and cheaper you will not reach even that speed.
So it depends on what kind of speeds you are after.
A relay does not need a lot of attention. Just make sure that you update the OS and Tor every now and then.
There are plenty of guides on how to do it which can be found by googling.
This is a good example which has a link to Atlas with some relays running on Rpi:
https://github.com/DFRI/dfri-rpi-tor
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*From:* tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org>> on behalf of Tamara West <sinister.hama@googlemail.com <mailto:sinister.hama@googlemail.com>> *Sent:* 16 October 2016 21:22 *To:* tor-relays@lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> *Subject:* [tor-relays] Smallest, cheapest, lightest computer for tor relay
I've got a few family members across the country who have broadband they are not using for more than email and social. I wanted to go about setting up a relay at each house can can be run with minimum amount of power and attention. I was considering something like RaspPi or Compute Stick.
Main questions (1) anyone else use these or something similar? (2) recommend of strong alternatives suggested? (3) is there something smaller, lighter and cheaper that will do the job? (*) did I maybe miss something obvious that needs attention?
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Yes, you are right. That doesn't make a real big difference. To compile from the source on RPi 1 would take several hours. It's better to use some kind of cross compiling. On a RPi 2 or 3 you also could disable the HDMI port and some other unused parts such as WiFi or Bluetooth, that would also reduce the power consumption. On 17.10.2016 00:32, Tristan wrote:
I believe the 2 and 3 are the same price as the 1 though. At any rate, you should probably compile the latest Tor from source if you can't use the official repository.
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:01:06 +0200 diffusae <punasipuli@t-online.de> wrote:
Yes, you are right. That doesn't make a real big difference.
Yes it does make a real big difference. Get the Pi 3, the 1st Pi is an order of magnitude slower.
The RPi is good to use as relay with your requirement. You can expect a total transfer rate of 11 MBytes (100 Mbits/sec). If you use Raspberry Pi 1 Model B+ you cannot use the official Tor repository
And no you can not expect 11 Mbytes/sec on a R Pi 1. -- With respect, Roman
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