Hi,
I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay. So now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some online services.
Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially for non-exit relays.
I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still listed.
My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
Thanks,
A few days up to a week, some service operators might only fetch IP's from the Tor relay pool once every weeks or even months though, so the IP being on Metrics is completely irrelevant.
I'd say at least 3-6 months until you reach a state where most sites have un-blocked your IP - some might never un-block it.
Think before blindly setting up software without knowing the consequences.
2020-10-28 6:53 GMT, shsmbcfdfk shsmbcfdfk@protonmail.com:
Hi,
I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay. So now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some online services.
Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially for non-exit relays.
I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still listed.
My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
Thanks,
Le Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 06:53:56AM +0000, shsmbcfdfk écrivait :
Hi,
I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay. So now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some online services.
Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially for non-exit relays.
I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still listed.
My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
Thanks,
It depends on their firewall policy, if they use fail2ban or not, how long they blacklist. But usually the default is 24h from what I have seen.
You might want to contact them to ask to be removed from the blacklist, and mayber explain them why you use Tor and why this is important ?
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 06:53:56 +0000 shsmbcfdfk shsmbcfdfk@protonmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I setup a non-exit relay on my home network and I have been listed as relay. So now me and my family even if we don't use Tor we are excluded from some online services.
Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially for non-exit relays.
I completely shut down the relay several hours ago but my IP is still listed.
My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
If I remember correctly, "Down" relays remain listed on metrics.torproject.org for 2 weeks. However the source where those sites and services take the IP lists is likely different, and could be updated more rapidly (or less).
Beyond the discussion of whether the owners of these services understand Tor or not, it's a problem that the address is added to public lists, especially for non-exit relays.
The addresses have to be public, because other users need to be able to connect to them. Public listing of bridge nodes is somewhat limited at the cost of making access harder for honest users and the solution is only shifting the problem a bit.
My question is how long does it take for a relay to disappear ?
Aside from what people have alrady said before me, the problem is usually not on Tor Metrics side. There is a third player here: companies that offer blocklists. It’s totally up to them when they think the IP address is “clean”. It may be from a day to never, depending on how much they care about quality of the lists they push to their customers. From my experience and hearsay a day to a week is a typical time for most cases.
You may use some anonimizing solutions (VPS) for the time being to hide your identity, if accessing those services is urgent.
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