On Mon Aug 26, 2024 at 4:11 AM PDT, boldsuck via tor-relays wrote:
On Montag, 26. August 2024 00:45:20 CEST eff_03675549@posteo.se wrote:
Telegram is Russian and spying :
- creator Pavel Durov
was arrested yesterday in France.
In general, I would like to point out SimpleX-Chat. https://simplex.chat/ https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplexmq
I've been using it for a few months. Decentralized, no ID, protected metadata, multiple user profiles, some designs taken from the Tor protocol. All SimpleX servers optionally accessible via Tor and you can run your own private SimpleX server.
It does seem promising.
I would note the following:
1. It doesn't appear the server can launch exclusively on the Tor network. Nor the client. Further, the server uses the IP as the CN during initialization. How much this matters, I don't know.
2. It's not clear to me how the client would be configured to exclusively bind to self-hosted infra (except to add own servers and remove all the ones in there by default).
3. It would be nice for someone to post about their experience bootstrapping their own self-hosted SimpleX, soup to nuts, and how it went, but I couldn't find any in a casual search, except some people talking about it on Reddit (such as the QR code linking). I'd like to step through replicating someone's (working) approach, how they brought it all together, what worked and what didn't, etc.
Jack Dorsey invested a large sum in further development a few days ago.
VCs do not invest without the expectation of profits, however modest those expectations could be. Profit motives aren't in and of themselves a dead-end (as Proton AG creates a foundation to, as they say, "put people before profits") ... but it gives me (opinion) some suspicion.
It could be that jack is interested in the long tail of what SimpleX means to growing some other companies.
$1.3M is not much, IMO.
"Name still reminds everyone of herpes." -- jack
Unfortunate, but as he says, fixable.
But the bar for using SimpleX for sharing bridge lines probably isn't lower than Telegram. There could be chilling effects associated with Durov's arrest, so self-hosting could become very important. It should have already been important, but the sheep don't care about these things until they're under threat.
fjord