Georg Koppen:
Weird - I got the following reply a few hours after submitting the mail:
Your message has been rejected, probably because you are not subscribed to the mailing list and the list's policy is to prohibit non-members from posting to it.
However, I was already a subscribed and confirmed member at this post.
Maybe someone decided to still approve it after someone else had already declined the message.
Anyway, I hope this is being looked into, a reply regarding The Tor Projects official stance on Team Cymru would also be great, because right now, I avoid their relays and bridges like the plague.
I decided to do some own research, and it seems like the Tor Project has a long-standing relationship with Team Cymru (at least since 2012, and maybe even earlier):
https://blog.torproject.org/knock-knock-knockin-bridges-doors
Still, I'm slightly paranoid when organizations like these start spinning up many different relays, effectively getting to see a substantial portion of the network's traffic.
So long, Lisa
2021-03-22 17:17 GMT, Georg Koppen gk@torproject.org:
Lisa Winter:
Hello list,
I just visited BridgeDB and got a bridge from "Team Cymru", according to the whois of the IP - should the Tor Project really allow a company trying to "track and take down threat actors and criminals around the globe" host a substantial portion of the network, according to their info page:
https://team-cymru.com/company/
The following was also very concerning:
"Team Cymru is comprised of former…"
- ...
- Law enforcement
- ISP backbone engineers
- ...
I suspect that they log connections to their relays and bridges, and maybe even more.
Such companies profit from gathering and selling information's, exploits and the likes.
bad-relays rejected this message, which is concerning.. I hope someone
I am not sure which message you are talking about but, for the record, that mailing list contains a quite similar mail from you. So, that one at least did not get rejected.
Georg
here could redirect it to the right people, or do the Tor Project higher-ups know the people behind Team Cymru and vouch for them?
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