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Hi Karsten,
I added a few new grouping options to compass:
- -T --by-contact (#6675) (Maybe we should truncate contacts and remove the undefined) - -O --by-os - -V --by-version (#6855)
+expose -N options in html (was implemented but not exposed in gui)
https://github.com/nusenu/tor-compass
For all output I (mis)used the nick column as a quick solution since it is not used otherwise when grouping.
Advertised bw is broken for some time. There is no 'advertised_bandwidth_fraction' (This field was removed from onionoo in November 2014.). Is it ok to change this to observed_bandwidth? (which would be a non fraction item)* ?
(The MyFamily lookup is also broken)
short commit log: - - add new group by ContactInfo option: by_contact (-T, --by-contact) (quick 'n dirty)
- - added new grouping -O, --by-os (all BSDs are merged into one group)
- - added new grouping by tor version (-V, --by-version)
- - tell app.py about new options (by_version, by_os, by_contact)
- - expose -N option in html and fix a missing label tag
- - include network data in html output when using -N (uses nick column)
- - expose by_version, by_os and by_contact options in HTML
- - if it is just one item, display the actual value for AS and CC instead of saying (1)
What do you think about it?
thanks, Nusenu
*) while playing with that I found 3 relays from JP that have a suspiciosly high adv bw: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/F528DED21EACD2E4E9301EC0AABD370EDCAD2C... https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/8901B1D2D4C0D3398C3F8363247B5AABF31369... https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/4EA0464A1B8D4231F176BA2FA1BCBF0A26F128...
reminded me of SKKU43: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-February/032094.html
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The MyFamily lookup is also broken
It actually works, I just expected to see more then an empty set when entering a torservers FP.
On 03/19/2015 10:11 PM, Nusenu wrote:
The MyFamily lookup is also broken
It actually works, I just expected to see more then an empty set when entering a torservers FP.
Our MyFamily statements have been broken for quite a while; it is not clear whether the statement actually provides any benefit. I believe it does, see also https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/6676 .
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On 19/03/15 15:12, Nusenu wrote:
Hi Karsten,
Hi Nusenu,
I added a few new grouping options to compass:
-T --by-contact (#6675) (Maybe we should truncate contacts and remove the undefined)
I didn't look at the ticket or code, but truncating contacts sounds like it could confuse users more than help them.
Removing the undefined contacts, or rather treating them specially sounds like a fine plan. I guess missing values should be treated similar to missing values are treated in the other fields.
-O --by-os -V --by-version (#6855)
Again, I didn't look at the code, but you might want to take into account that there's no check whether the platform string says "Tor 1.2.3.4-something". You should probably treat platform strings that don't stick to that schema as missing values.
+expose -N options in html (was implemented but not exposed in gui)
https://github.com/nusenu/tor-compass
For all output I (mis)used the nick column as a quick solution since it is not used otherwise when grouping.
Heh, sounds like a hack that will confuse other contributors and the future you in 3 months from now. It's probably worth rewriting this now, as long as you at least know why it's a quick hack. It's going to take less time overall. :)
Advertised bw is broken for some time. There is no 'advertised_bandwidth_fraction' (This field was removed from onionoo in November 2014.). Is it ok to change this to observed_bandwidth? (which would be a non fraction item)* ?
I'd say just take out advertised bandwidth *fraction*.
(The MyFamily lookup is also broken)
short commit log: - add new group by ContactInfo option: by_contact (-T, --by-contact) (quick 'n dirty)
- added new grouping -O, --by-os (all BSDs are merged into one
group)
added new grouping by tor version (-V, --by-version)
tell app.py about new options (by_version, by_os, by_contact)
expose -N option in html and fix a missing label tag
include network data in html output when using -N (uses nick
column)
expose by_version, by_os and by_contact options in HTML
if it is just one item, display the actual value for AS and CC
instead of saying (1)
What do you think about it?
I think it's awesome that you picked up Compass development *and* use it to find configuration problems of relay families and other problems. This is really great, thanks for doing this!
Regarding the tickets and code changes, you should know that Compass doesn't have an active maintainer right now. All I do is keep it running, but I can't work on enhancements nor review submitted patches.
I think you should fork Compass, maybe give it a new name, run it on a small VM somewhere, and become the maintainer for that. I'd be happy to add a link to https://onionoo.torproject.org/. I could also imagine adding a short text on https://compass.torproject.org/ that links to your service as the new Compass.
And just in case you were wondering, if you ever have a feature request for Onionoo, I'd be happy to discuss that. In contrast to some of its clients, Onionoo itself is actively maintained.
Thanks for caring about this!
All the best, Karsten
thanks, Nusenu
*) while playing with that I found 3 relays from JP that have a suspiciosly high adv bw: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/F528DED21EACD2E4E9301EC0AABD370EDCAD2C...
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/8901B1D2D4C0D3398C3F8363247B5AABF31369...
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/4EA0464A1B8D4231F176BA2FA1BCBF0A26F128...
reminded me of SKKU43: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-February/032094.html
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Hi Karsten,
thanks for your reply.
-T --by-contact (#6675) (Maybe we should truncate contacts and remove the undefined)
I didn't look at the ticket or code, but truncating contacts sounds like it could confuse users more than help them.
You can judge by having a look the example that actually truncates contactinfo here:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nusenu/misc-files/master/biggest_tor_relay...
I can tell, it doesn't look as "nice" without truncation ;)
Again, I didn't look at the code, but you might want to take into account that there's no check whether the platform string says "Tor 1.2.3.4-something". You should probably treat platform strings that don't stick to that schema as missing values.
Agreed. I also plan to have multiple group-by modes for version (and other properties) using a radio button selections:
Group by version [] none [] major version [] exact match
Heh, sounds like a hack that will confuse other contributors and the future you in 3 months from now. It's probably worth rewriting this now, as long as you at least know why it's a quick hack. It's going to take less time overall. :)
Agreed.
I think it's awesome that you picked up Compass development *and* use it to find configuration problems of relay families and other problems. This is really great, thanks for doing this!
Thanks for the kind lines.
Regarding the tickets and code changes, you should know that Compass doesn't have an active maintainer right now. All I do is keep it running, but I can't work on enhancements nor review submitted patches.
So I guess it doesn't make sense to add/modify on any compass tickets in trac(?).
I think you should fork Compass, maybe give it a new name, run it on a small VM somewhere, and become the maintainer for that.
Ok, I'll investigate the feasibility of self-hosting a fork.
thanks, Nusenu
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On 23/03/15 14:55, Nusenu wrote:
Hi Karsten,
thanks for your reply.
-T --by-contact (#6675) (Maybe we should truncate contacts and remove the undefined)
I didn't look at the ticket or code, but truncating contacts sounds like it could confuse users more than help them.
You can judge by having a look the example that actually truncates contactinfo here:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nusenu/misc-files/master/biggest_tor_relay...
I can tell, it doesn't look as "nice" without truncation ;)
Okay. I guess what I wanted to say was group by full contact lines, display truncated if needed. But I have no idea whether that would make a big difference in practice.
Again, I didn't look at the code, but you might want to take into account that there's no check whether the platform string says "Tor 1.2.3.4-something". You should probably treat platform strings that don't stick to that schema as missing values.
Agreed. I also plan to have multiple group-by modes for version (and other properties) using a radio button selections:
Group by version [] none [] major version [] exact match
Sounds good!
Heh, sounds like a hack that will confuse other contributors and the future you in 3 months from now. It's probably worth rewriting this now, as long as you at least know why it's a quick hack. It's going to take less time overall. :)
Agreed.
I think it's awesome that you picked up Compass development *and* use it to find configuration problems of relay families and other problems. This is really great, thanks for doing this!
Thanks for the kind lines.
Regarding the tickets and code changes, you should know that Compass doesn't have an active maintainer right now. All I do is keep it running, but I can't work on enhancements nor review submitted patches.
So I guess it doesn't make sense to add/modify on any compass tickets in trac(?).
Probably not. What you should do is go through the existing tickets and see which issues are still relevant for you. But it's probably easiest for you to use your own issue tracker.
I think you should fork Compass, maybe give it a new name, run it on a small VM somewhere, and become the maintainer for that.
Ok, I'll investigate the feasibility of self-hosting a fork.
If hosting is the issue, please contact me off-list, and I'll see if I can help with that somehow.
All the best, Karsten
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Karsten Loesing:
maybe give it a new name
Is 'aggregator' ok, or should there be no 'tor' in the word at all?
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On 23/03/15 16:33, Nusenu wrote:
Karsten Loesing:
maybe give it a new name
Is 'aggregator' ok, or should there be no 'tor' in the word at all?
I think "onion" is the new "tor" to build names around. Though I don't think "aggregator" would be problematic. Capitalized differently, as "aggregaTor" or "AggregaTor", it might be.
All the best, Karsten