On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Sukhbir Singh azadi@riseup.net wrote:
Hi Greg,
Hi all,
First of all, great work on Tor Messenger - it's awesome to see Tor
pushing
to be more accessible to non-technical folks.
I decided to take some notes when installing + using for the first time, hopefully this will be helpful.
While there are some minor issues, I'd like to stress that this is a
great
first step and considering this is the first general public release it's
a
very good design. ///////
Thanks for the feedback. We know we can do a lot better with the UI/UX, so any feedback is appreciated.
I'm on an OSX machine, so the first thing I see after clicking on the
icon
is a message that Tor can't be opened because it's from an unidentified developer. This would raise an eyebrow at least for most users. (And lessens the effectiveness of the warning if we are going to train users
to
ignore it)
This is a concern and the Tor Browser team is in the process of getting the certificate to sign Tor Browser. Once they have that, we will coordinate with them to sign Tor Messenger releases. We are tracking this in #6540 and #17452.
https://bugs.torproject.org/6540 https://bugs.torproject.org/17452I right click and select "open" and there is a longish pause (>10s) which could frustrate new users, then the wizard appears.
That's unexpected. Did you only experience this the first time you ran Tor Messenger or on subsequent runs also?
That was on the first run. Now it's more like 5 seconds max, then the loading screen. (Which BTW, is much improved over the old vidalia + FF style bundle the TBB used to use :) )
I don't chat often - I usually text my friends, and I don't want to use
FB
chat since it's tied to my real name. I remember that Twitter now has no
DM
limit. But it's not on the main list. I don't have any data to support
this
intuition, but I suspect that after XMPP, Twitter would be a popular protocol.
We currently do not support DMs (Instantbird doesn't) and that is one of the (top) things in our to-do list.
https://bugs.torproject.org/13312I click once on "show all protocols" and click continue. There's only a
few
additional, Twitter being one of them. Not sure why this list wasn't present from the beginning.
The protocol list was more of an arbitrary decision, so the first screen lists the top four protocols we think most users would care about, and then follow up with two more (Twitter and Odnoklassniki). Thinking about it now, I think it's a good idea to display only one screen since we are doing the same thing. I have reopened #13323 to discuss this.
https://bugs.torproject.org/13323I get options for a local alias and "tracked keywords". I have no clue
what
the latter is, but it sounds like the concept of a taboo in Harry Potter, so for a laugh I put in "Voldermort".
Yes, this has been pointed to us. We will work on the UI to add hints in cases where the terminology may not seen apparent.
Now I'm authorizing Instabird. Fairly straightforward.
Now I'm receiving a texted 2f code from twitter and entering it.
Now I'm in, and I can see my Twitter timeline, which is interesting. I
was
expecting just a buddy list to send DMs, not timeline access. I post a tweet to my timeline, then want to send my boss a test DM. But I follow
1500 people, and have to scroll a lot to find him.
I locate his name and double click, but nothing happens.
At this point, I suspect a less security minded user might abandon the
app.
(I end up digging around a bit to find the functionality I need)
We discussed this and it was recommended that we should probably disable Twitter until we can support DMs. (Because once we do support DMs, we support OTR over DMs, which will be a nice thing to have.) Let's see, it's up for discussion on how we can make the Twitter experience a bit more pleasant.
I'm not sure if you need to disable it. In general I'm more of a fan of hiding functionality such that only an expert will seek it out. (Normal users are afraid to break things, if you make it hard to find and give a scary warning, they'll back off)
For example, Mozilla hides some of the more dangerous settings in about:config and gives a scary warning if you venture in there.
Thanks.
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