Team Meeting: 2003-06-17 0900 PDT [be in #ooni 10 mins early]
Hello hello hello fantastic Ooni folks. Get ready for a precociously productive meeting on Monday. # Time This Monday is our first team meeting since the Berlin intensive face-to-face. It's at 9am on the West coast, 10am in the mountains, noon on the East coast, 5pm in the UK, and 6pm in Europe central. If you're planning on coming and I haven't listed your time zone, let me know to include it in future reminders. The meeting is open to all who wish to observe or listen productively. # Venue I intend to meet in the pixellated video realm that is Google Hangouts. My gmail address is flamsmark@gmail.com, and you're totally welcome (and encouraged) to try getting in touch with me and testing your video capabilities before the call. If Hangouts will *not* work for you on Monday, reply to this email, and I'll promulgate an alternative meeting venue, likely Uberconference. I anticipate that there may be a few technical hiccups with this new and uncharted technology, so please be in #ooni on OFTC *ten minutes* before we start so that we can set up before the meeting and start on time. # Schedule My proposed tentative schedule for this meeting goes a little like this. I invite you to help me wrangle it by email, but not right before we start on Monday. 0900: Check in: how's everyone doing? 0910: Berlin takeaways: what's on your plate that isn't captured on Github? 0940: Triage upstream: collaboratively move items from Trac to Github. 1010: Week in profile: what things are you planning to get done this week? 1025: Parting thoughts. 1030: Adjourn. # Tasks In order to have a useful and productive session, here are some things that everyone should do before 9am on Monday: 1. Decompress. Travel is tough; come out of the weekend refreshed. 2. Read the agenda. Reply if you have suggestions. 3. Prepare your Hangouts. Make sure we can actually connect on Monday. 4. Review the Ooni tickets on Trac. They're all listed at <http://j.mp/153kpDN>. * * * * * That's all for now. I'll see all your gorgeous smiling faces on Monday. -Tom
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Tom Lowenthal transcribed 2.2K bytes:
I intend to meet in the pixellated video realm that is Google Hangouts.
Hey everyone, It seemed like I wasn't the only cause for delay, but since I contributed: apologies! It was really good to hear/see everyone, are there plans to be make this a weekly occurrence? (Not that I *like* the NSA seeing me on camera when I've just woken up, but I don't know of any open source, secure, video chat services that actually work.)
0910: Berlin takeaways: what's on your plate that isn't captured on Github?
We did a lot of ticket triage, and not much discussion of this, which is fair because Jake had to take off early. I'm still a bit confused. I was under the very strong impression that someone (honestly couldn't figure out who) *really* didn't want me to work on OONI, so I started preparing other things to work on. From the way things were discussed in the call, it seemed that it is expected that I *will* be working on OONI -- which just makes me more confused. I thought I'd done something so horribly wrong that no one even wanted to tell me what I did. (Enter sneaky paranoia spiral.) It's not productive, nor healthy, for me to be burning cycles trying to figure out whether my help is wanted. If anyone hates my guts, please, please just say it and save my time. Or, if I am being way too paranoid, and I've totally interpreted this the wrong way, feel free to say that too. tl;dr: You all should say whatever you want to me, whenever. It will be way less annoying than trying to figure out who thinks what and why. Not to end on a negative note, it really was good to talk to everyone.
That's all for now. I'll see all your gorgeous smiling faces on Monday.
Thanks for organising and facilitating, Tom! - -- ♥Ⓐ isis agora lovecruft _________________________________________________________ GPG: 4096R/A3ADB67A2CDB8B35 Current Keys: https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/isis.txt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJuBAEBCgBYBQJRv+95BYMB4TOASxSAAAAAABoAKGlzaXNAcGF0dGVybnNpbnRo ZXZvaWQubmV0MEE2QTU4QTE0QjU5NDZBQkRFMThFMjA3QTNBREI2N0EyQ0RCOEIz NQAKCRCjrbZ6LNuLNYQQD/9GSttu711ZGoFGb50CVSWJgRqA4mMbMydZlBTLoZiv qVcSraU18Ad7dEwcINiV15BXZH4b3vIWvttsVUTen9ocdujxkzHiL++9BkN4KxRP 1XduOFSNpmpV4DFxR46Wa0t5GpVZN39QO8FqsNTb5oJXGEoCekclsO2kIYHH+WtC 0NP4CSv8g6EsjFxFRBrmMACdfbsDfrnX3t6tI89hpEbiL/kgUOaXDwEfRw1v4L/q a96kjfIApa+HssV7f6GLlFw0e9T/OIqNnWS24/oS+pRaYGyb648NuTbntnDTgdBk qAmr2wz1OxFDyTsO0JmWjRSgsseh9xF8CIP+kc2T54KLbsMbeX95AfI1QT1x4xqf EfBKVin6eLmHFYLSrh5SQmFNsU2/jnQ49iGiCJi+zk9TIwXIR7vT+4cZoW/f9zCX 5JEg2BLLmU+o9+hNU6ScHwh+IOT7g5CD1fUCTbmd0PmqrC3b/M64g78ucRd+DBn9 y5JOvI+HNxowFuPdUwdsix366hCePuJTA5RJ5W7N8p/spfyi+Pxpcql1jjNnRSSI tZzuoS+FG0ST1AJO4fdhN0VJcD9N29cbtyhYbSc7OGB8VUeBi4x81aGE+Ld2akcg 98jDiP8Eh2hgpJqSdDW9WaUaMf9YDSjtTUuXTNG0sv50v9YXCx4EeydykXNeg8Wk Fw== =QyPX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:26 AM, isis agora lovecruft <isis@torproject.org>wrote:
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Tom Lowenthal transcribed 2.2K bytes:
I intend to meet in the pixellated video realm that is Google Hangouts.
Hey everyone,
It seemed like I wasn't the only cause for delay, but since I contributed: apologies!
It was really good to hear/see everyone, are there plans to be make this a weekly occurrence? (Not that I *like* the NSA seeing me on camera when I've just woken up, but I don't know of any open source, secure, video chat services that actually work.)
Yes, one of the takeaways from the Berlin meeting is that we will do weekly (open) Google Hangout meetings. If we come up with a better solution we can try to agree to use that instead :)
0910: Berlin takeaways: what's on your plate that isn't captured on Github?
There's a lot, and Tom is producing a document so I'd rather not replicate his efforts here. All of the major items for the 1.0 release should be captured, however.
We did a lot of ticket triage, and not much discussion of this, which is fair because Jake had to take off early.
I thought ticket triage was probably rather uninteresting to the majority of people on the call, but we did knock out 20+ tickets in less than 30 minutes. Woo! If you think a ticket was closed in error you can always comment and re-open the ticket.
I'm still a bit confused. I was under the very strong impression that someone (honestly couldn't figure out who) *really* didn't want me to work on OONI, so I started preparing other things to work on. From the way things were discussed in the call, it seemed that it is expected that I *will* be working on OONI -- which just makes me more confused.
I believe that anyone should be welcome to contribute to any Tor project. The confusion (from my perspective) is regarding expectations of availability, latency, and coordination between people working on the project. Arturo and I observed that Jake and your contributions were somewhat sparse and asked Tom to talk to you both so that we could figure out what your intent was and what our expectations should be. My observation was that both you and Jake have several other projects that you are actively involved in and were consuming more time and energy than anticipated. I thought I'd done something so horribly wrong that no one even wanted to
tell me what I did. (Enter sneaky paranoia spiral.) It's not productive, nor healthy, for me to be burning cycles trying to figure out whether my help is wanted. If anyone hates my guts, please, please just say it and save my time. Or, if I am being way too paranoid, and I've totally interpreted this the wrong way, feel free to say that too.
No one (here) hates you Isis. I think the big problem was that the task of coordinating 4 part-time developers in mostly different parts of the world failed without a champion, and there were frustrations with communications latency and reachability that made people grumpy and less enthusiastic working with each other.
tl;dr: You all should say whatever you want to me, whenever. It will be way less annoying than trying to figure out who thinks what and why.
Not to end on a negative note, it really was good to talk to everyone.
That's all for now. I'll see all your gorgeous smiling faces on Monday.
+1 if you wear a *pirate* eye patch :)
Thanks for organising and facilitating, Tom!
- -- ♥Ⓐ isis agora lovecruft _________________________________________________________ GPG: 4096R/A3ADB67A2CDB8B35 Current Keys: https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/isis.txt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Tom Lowenthal