On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:26 AM, isis agora lovecruft <isis@torproject.org> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Tom Lowenthal transcribed 2.2K bytes:
>
> I intend to meet in the pixellated video realm that is Google
> Hangouts.

Hey everyone,

It seemed like I wasn't the only cause for delay, but since I contributed:
apologies!

It was really good to hear/see everyone, are there plans to be make this a
weekly occurrence? (Not that I *like* the NSA seeing me on camera when I've
just woken up, but I don't know of any open source, secure, video chat
services that actually work.)


Yes, one of the takeaways from the Berlin meeting is that we will do weekly (open) Google Hangout meetings.
If we come up with a better solution we can try to agree to use that instead :)


> 0910: Berlin takeaways: what's on your plate that isn't captured on Github?

There's a lot, and Tom is producing a document so I'd rather not replicate his efforts here. All of the major items for the 1.0 release should be captured, however.
 

We did a lot of ticket triage, and not much discussion of this, which is fair
because Jake had to take off early.

I thought ticket triage was probably rather uninteresting to the majority of people on the call, but we did knock out 20+ tickets in less than 30 minutes. Woo! If you think a ticket was closed in error you can always comment and re-open the ticket.
 

I'm still a bit confused. I was under the very strong impression that someone
(honestly couldn't figure out who) *really* didn't want me to work on OONI, so
I started preparing other things to work on. From the way things were
discussed in the call, it seemed that it is expected that I *will* be working
on OONI -- which just makes me more confused.

I believe that anyone should be welcome to contribute to any Tor project. The confusion (from my perspective) is regarding expectations of availability, latency, and coordination between people working on the project. Arturo and I observed that Jake and your contributions were somewhat sparse and asked Tom to talk to you both so that we could figure out what your intent was and what our expectations should be. My observation was that both you and Jake have several other projects that you are actively involved in and were consuming more time and energy than anticipated.

I thought I'd done something so horribly wrong that no one even wanted to tell
me what I did. (Enter sneaky paranoia spiral.) It's not productive, nor
healthy, for me to be burning cycles trying to figure out whether my help is
wanted. If anyone hates my guts, please, please just say it and save my time.
Or, if I am being way too paranoid, and I've totally interpreted this the
wrong way, feel free to say that too.

No one (here) hates you Isis. I think the big problem was that the task of coordinating 4 part-time developers in mostly different parts of the world failed without a champion, and there were frustrations with communications latency and reachability that made people grumpy and less enthusiastic working with each other.


tl;dr: You all should say whatever you want to me, whenever. It will be way
less annoying than trying to figure out who thinks what and why.

Not to end on a negative note, it really was good to talk to everyone.

> That's all for now. I'll see all your gorgeous smiling faces on Monday.

+1 if you wear a *pirate* eye patch :)


Thanks for organising and facilitating, Tom!

- --
 ♥Ⓐ isis agora lovecruft
_________________________________________________________
GPG: 4096R/A3ADB67A2CDB8B35
Current Keys: https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/isis.txt
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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=QyPX
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
_______________________________________________
ooni-dev mailing list
ooni-dev@lists.torproject.org
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ooni-dev