Oi!
Starting this thread for a descriptive and nicer name than the global-south.
Potential names proposed during/around the Tor meeting: * notEUS * lava * LATAM
[]s, ~Vasilis
Hola,
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 07:25:00PM +0000, Vasilis wrote:
Oi!
Starting this thread for a descriptive and nicer name than the global-south.
Potential names proposed during/around the Tor meeting:
- notEUS
- lava
- LATAM
My two pesos:
* notfive (or not5, !5): however, this excludes australia.
* few relays area (fra): however, this excludes other non-technical aspects of the discussion.
* under (or tor-under): this stands for underrepresented areas, in terms of community, relays, user base, etc.
Abrazos.
ilv@torproject.org:
Hola,
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 07:25:00PM +0000, Vasilis wrote:
Oi!
Starting this thread for a descriptive and nicer name than the global-south.
Potential names proposed during/around the Tor meeting:
- notEUS
- lava
- LATAM
My two pesos:
notfive (or not5, !5): however, this excludes australia.
few relays area (fra): however, this excludes other non-technical aspects of the discussion.
under (or tor-under): this stands for underrepresented areas, in terms of community, relays, user base, etc.
Bumping this up! Any further ideas/proposals for a name?
Cheers, ~Vasilis
Hi Vasilis, hope you're fine!
I think Latam is great:
latam@lists.torproject.org
or maybe:
latinoamerica@lists.torproject.org
is just simple and clear, right?
Then if the other tor friends from other country want to propose other lists I'll be happy to help and make this reality.
bye
On 12/11/2017 09:39 AM, Vasilis wrote:
Bumping this up! Any further ideas/proposals for a name?
Vasilis dijo [Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 07:25:00PM +0000]:
Oi!
Starting this thread for a descriptive and nicer name than the global-south.
Potential names proposed during/around the Tor meeting:
- notEUS
- lava
- LATAM
Ummm... "Global South" has some bad things, yes, but it is clearly more descriptive and reaching than the other proposed ones. LATAM could work, if you restrict the scope of the group to Latin America (am unsure if it aligns with the general feeling)...
Note that, as a Mexican, "Global South" feels a bit inadequate, as we are clearly North-Hemispheric (although there is an undeniable North-South divide, not denying that). I would be happy in a "Global South" group. I would be happy in a LATAM group (is it an endorsement for the airline group by that name?) But we _are_ excluding Africa, Asia, Oceania...
Maybe if a better understanding of the group's _definition_ is found, a fitting name will emerge naturally out of it?
Gunnar Wolf:
Vasilis dijo [Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 07:25:00PM +0000]:
Oi!
Starting this thread for a descriptive and nicer name than the global-south.
Potential names proposed during/around the Tor meeting:
- notEUS
- lava
- LATAM
Ummm... "Global South" has some bad things, yes, but it is clearly more descriptive and reaching than the other proposed ones. LATAM could work, if you restrict the scope of the group to Latin America (am unsure if it aligns with the general feeling)...
Note that, as a Mexican, "Global South" feels a bit inadequate, as we are clearly North-Hemispheric (although there is an undeniable North-South divide, not denying that). I would be happy in a "Global South" group. I would be happy in a LATAM group (is it an endorsement for the airline group by that name?) But we _are_ excluding Africa, Asia, Oceania...
Maybe if a better understanding of the group's _definition_ is found, a fitting name will emerge naturally out of it?
Valid points Gunnar.
Maybe we delay the discussion on the name, and focus on something more concrete?
I only joined this list recently, but I think it's a good goal to focus on the Santiago, Chile event in December. In other words, let's focus on Latin America, as the consensus seems to say, then worry about the list name later?
The main person for the event is on this list... and maybe he could refocus on discussion.
g
George dijo [Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:05:00AM +0000]:
Valid points Gunnar.
Maybe we delay the discussion on the name, and focus on something more concrete?
I only joined this list recently, but I think it's a good goal to focus on the Santiago, Chile event in December. In other words, let's focus on Latin America, as the consensus seems to say, then worry about the list name later?
The main person for the event is on this list... and maybe he could refocus on discussion.
When is the event in Chile? I will be in Argentina between December 11 and January 10, and while I do have some appointments set sprinkled through the period, if it falls within those dates, I can try to scramble around to attend :-]
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14:15AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
George dijo [Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:05:00AM +0000]:
Valid points Gunnar.
Maybe we delay the discussion on the name, and focus on something more concrete?
I only joined this list recently, but I think it's a good goal to focus on the Santiago, Chile event in December. In other words, let's focus on Latin America, as the consensus seems to say, then worry about the list name later?
The main person for the event is on this list... and maybe he could refocus on discussion.
When is the event in Chile? I will be in Argentina between December 11 and January 10, and while I do have some appointments set sprinkled through the period, if it falls within those dates, I can try to scramble around to attend :-]
December 2 and 3. Maybe we could arrange something? I will contact you directly to see what options we have.
Abrazos, --i
ilv@torproject.org:
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14:15AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
George dijo [Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:05:00AM +0000]:
Valid points Gunnar.
Maybe we delay the discussion on the name, and focus on something more concrete?
I only joined this list recently, but I think it's a good goal to focus on the Santiago, Chile event in December. In other words, let's focus on Latin America, as the consensus seems to say, then worry about the list name later?
The main person for the event is on this list... and maybe he could refocus on discussion.
When is the event in Chile? I will be in Argentina between December 11 and January 10, and while I do have some appointments set sprinkled through the period, if it falls within those dates, I can try to scramble around to attend :-]
December 2 and 3. Maybe we could arrange something? I will contact you directly to see what options we have.
Cool, and it probably makes sense to do some of the planning here.
egycio: any .br people planning on going to that? Maybe ping the BSD list?
Other networks we could ping?
g
egycio: any .br people planning on going to that? Maybe ping the BSD list?
I know for sure 4 ppl from Brazil will go there. I will do my best for beeing there too
Lavits is more institutional in some way, but is talking about anti-sourveillance, spying and is something we should know
and Phack is growing fast, many people are partecipating to the Cryptorave, so it make completely sense to extend and improve the community. So I can tell you some CR-avers will be there :)
Other networks we could ping?
I don't know, does someone from US/EU will go in chile?
byez
ilv@torproject.org dijo [Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:39:09PM -0300]:
When is the event in Chile? I will be in Argentina between December 11 and January 10, and while I do have some appointments set sprinkled through the period, if it falls within those dates, I can try to scramble around to attend :-]
December 2 and 3. Maybe we could arrange something? I will contact you directly to see what options we have.
FWIW, I hope I can make it. Have talked a bit with ilv in private already. Hope to make it to Chile! :-]
global-south@lists.torproject.org