The Snowflake broker is currently hosted on Greenhost's subsidized eclips.is platform. Their funding has ended, and they are moving to a partial user-pays model. For the next year Greenhost will self-fund up to 50 EUR per month per user. I am not sure whether we fit under that threshold.
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 14:43:05 +0000 From: Greenhost support@greenhost.nl To: david@bamsoftware.com Subject: [eclips.is] The future of eclips.is
Hello david@bamsoftware.com,
Hope you’re doing well! We’re happy to inform you that all VPSs have been successfully migrated from our Miami data center to Amsterdam. Please take a moment to check that your VPS is functioning as expected, and let us know if you encounter any issues.
As mentioned earlier this year, funding support from the Open Technology Fund (OTF) will conclude on October 31st, 2024 (today). However, Greenhost is committed to ensuring continued service and will fully support eclips.is through December 31st, 2024.
Starting January 1st, 2025, Greenhost will migrate eclips.is to a hybrid model. We will provide every account with a free tier of up to EUR 50 per month. Based on usage data, this will cover about 90% of current accounts. As a result, for the majority of accounts/users, nothing will change. For accounts using more resources, the portion above EUR 50 per month will be charged, with a discount of 25% applied.
This model will be in place until at least October 31st, 2025. During the year, we will assess this model and determine if it is sustainable long-term.
With this approach, Greenhost has found a good balance between continuing to fully support grassroots and small organizations, and providing heavy users with an affordable service.
This sponsorship represents approximately €120,000 per year, and Greenhost is proud to be able to provide this service to the community without funding. However, we are dedicated to exploring extra funding options to further support the community and broaden our user base.
For users who can fully cover their service costs, we encourage you to purchase directly through the Greenhost website. Direct purchases strengthen our ability to support the community in the long term. Thank you for being part of this journey!
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In the web configurator interface, the cost of a VPS at the current specs used by the Snowflake broker (20 GiB disk, 32 GiB RAM, 8 CPU cores) is 185.80 EUR.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 09:59:13AM -0600, David Fifield wrote:
The Snowflake broker is currently hosted on Greenhost's subsidized eclips.is platform. Their funding has ended, and they are moving to a partial user-pays model. For the next year Greenhost will self-fund up to 50 EUR per month per user. I am not sure whether we fit under that threshold.
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 14:43:05 +0000 From: Greenhost support@greenhost.nl To: david@bamsoftware.com Subject: [eclips.is] The future of eclips.is
Hello david@bamsoftware.com,
Hope you’re doing well! We’re happy to inform you that all VPSs have been successfully migrated from our Miami data center to Amsterdam. Please take a moment to check that your VPS is functioning as expected, and let us know if you encounter any issues.
As mentioned earlier this year, funding support from the Open Technology Fund (OTF) will conclude on October 31st, 2024 (today). However, Greenhost is committed to ensuring continued service and will fully support eclips.is through December 31st, 2024.
Starting January 1st, 2025, Greenhost will migrate eclips.is to a hybrid model. We will provide every account with a free tier of up to EUR 50 per month. Based on usage data, this will cover about 90% of current accounts. As a result, for the majority of accounts/users, nothing will change. For accounts using more resources, the portion above EUR 50 per month will be charged, with a discount of 25% applied.
This model will be in place until at least October 31st, 2025. During the year, we will assess this model and determine if it is sustainable long-term.
With this approach, Greenhost has found a good balance between continuing to fully support grassroots and small organizations, and providing heavy users with an affordable service.
This sponsorship represents approximately €120,000 per year, and Greenhost is proud to be able to provide this service to the community without funding. However, we are dedicated to exploring extra funding options to further support the community and broaden our user base.
For users who can fully cover their service costs, we encourage you to purchase directly through the Greenhost website. Direct purchases strengthen our ability to support the community in the long term. Thank you for being part of this journey!
The Greenhost Team
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Quoting David Fifield (2024-11-12 21:01:31)
In the web configurator interface, the cost of a VPS at the current specs used by the Snowflake broker (20 GiB disk, 32 GiB RAM, 8 CPU cores) is 185.80 EUR.
mmm, it looks like they might start charging us next year.
One option we could consider is running it in TPA infrastructure. I checked with them and they could provide that size of machine but will want to know more of the traffic we produce.
But the question will be more if we want to do that. As a policy TPO doesn't run relays or bridges, but we do run the bridge distribution (rdsys). The snowflake broker is more similar to rdsys than to a bridge as it only distributes proxies, but it sees all user connections while rdsys only sees bridge requests when users need to change them. I'm not sure we want to move more services that people depend on into TPO.
Another difference with TPA is that we'll not get root on the server, but a user to run our services with systemd. TPA takes care of server upgrades and we maintain the service updated and running.
We could find money to pay for the service either in elips.is or somewhere else and maintain it separated from TPO.
Let's talk about this during our next thursday meeting.
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