[tor-talk] Measuring on-line anonymity

Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Wed Aug 15 00:28:50 UTC 2018

On 08/14/2018 04:48 PM, panoramix.druida wrote:
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> El 14 de agosto de 2018 8:17 PM, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> escribió:
>> On 08/13/2018 07:52 PM, panoramix.druida wrote:
>>> Hi, is there a way to measure the level of anonymity on a system?
>> Sure. There's some literature. Check out
>> https://www.freehaven.net/papers.html.
> Thanks, lots of good stuff!!!

Yeah, it's a _great_ resource.

>>> Ricochet is way better to protect anonymity. I don’t need a phone number, not even a name, I just use the onion service hostname. With Richochet I am anonymous all the time unless I identify myself.
>>> Email may not be as good as Signal for end to end encryption (even with pgp), but it can be way better for anonymity. For instance, this email account was created using Tor in Protonmail, and there are other mail providers that allow me to this. If I always use Protonmail with Tor, it is very hard for Protonmail to learn who am I and where I live, doing that with Signal is harder. However with Ricochet is way easier.
>> Well, there's a huge metadata issue with email. Using .onion webmail
>> mitigates much of it. But everyone needs to watch their OPSEC, to avoid
>> deanonymization.
>> And why do you say that deanonymization is way easier with Ricochet?
>> It's all via .onion instances. But I gather that Tor Project no longer
>> actively supports the work.
> What I meant is that is easier to stay anonyumouse on a system like Ricochet.

OK, got it.

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