[tor-talk] "Hidden Services" vs "Onion services"

[Katya Titov]

Paolo Cardullo:
> On 15/11/14 08:42, Katya Titov wrote:
>> I opened a lengthy discussion about this in January:
>> 
>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-January/thread.html#31863
>> 
>> No real outcome.
>> 
>> The name is what it is, and I think it's stuck.
> 
> Katia, thanks very much for pointing to the discussion, which is
> simply fascinating. I will read it more attentively.
> 
> Let me say that meanings are never fixed or 'stuck' and that the
> struggle to shift them is always open. So between cosmic space,
> night/day, hidden/open, there are plenty of shades and personalities
> coming out.
> 
> I think the use of 'dark' is not neutral and it hides a moral
> geography of the Net, which might appeal to some of the 'insiders'
> too. I also think that the anti-terrorism, anti-immigrants,
> anti-whatever symbols (all 'dark' of course) are serious attacks to
> Internet freedom too.

Thanks Paolo.

I agree with everything you said, but the big issue I see is that the
media is already using the term 'dark', and my impression is that once
they think they are on to a good thing they will stick with it. It's
hard to change these things. Think "hacker" -- the original term is
lost to the greater public.

I would be *very* happy to be proven wrong!

-- 
kat