[tor-talk] Is there a representative of the LizardSquad on this list?

s7r s7r at sky-ip.org
Sat Dec 27 02:49:20 UTC 2014

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If Thomas White, who runs exit relays for long time and actually keeps
them online by continuing to pay for the invoices out of his own money
looks dumb, maybe you can explain to this community what is the use of
your approx. 3500 relays who never even got the chance to touch a big
fraction of the traffic in the network since they were blacklisted
before they were properly measured by the Directory Authorities.

If it's not a sybil attack or an attempt to grow the directory data
with annoying and irrelevant data, what is it then?

Are you willing to sustain 3500 exit relays for long term?

There were others who tried to find vulnerabilities in Tor, but the
approach was more open and transparent with the development team,
since a good 'test' is always welcomed by everyone. Nobody tries to
hide or run away from such a test in this community.

On 12/27/2014 4:30 AM, lizards at riseup.net wrote:
> If you're going to be guessing you should probably point that out
> instead of presenting your guesses as facts. We are not trying to
> flood the dir with offline relays.
> The fact that you've been referring to this as a Sybil attempt
> since the beginning just makes you look dumb, there'd be no point
> in even attempting with so few /16s. Well they wouldn't really be
> able to pull off a successful Sybil if they tried. I mentioned this
> on my Twitter hours ago. A load of kids using Google Cloud to run a
> script to basically set up, get registered in the dir and then shut
> down & repeat. This floods the dir with entries of their relays
> even though most of them are now offline.
> They are just being a pain in the ass and inflating the dir size.
> Kids will be kids and their attempted attack is simply wasting our
> time. When they realised how little they knew of Tor and why they
> attack didn't work, we see this backtracking attitude of "Oh no, it
> wasn't an attack" bullshit :)
> T
> Virgil Griffith:
>>>> If yes, it'd be nice to know what your aims are in the Sybil 
>>>> attack. Because thus far it is unclear to me what your
>>>> motives or objectives are.
>>>> -V
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