[tor-talk] How can the video play in TBB without plagins?

Joe Btfsplk joebtfsplk at gmx.com
Mon Mar 26 13:59:36 UTC 2012

On 3/25/2012 10:56 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:37:55 -0500
> Joe Btfsplk<joebtfsplk at gmx.com>  wrote:
>> Don't you have to opt in to the html5 videos (or technology), thus
>> meaning creating an acct on (youtube)?  Or has that changed?
> No, you do not have to login to youtube, nor even visit their
> youtube/html5 page to set the cookie. The current version of torbrowser
> enables html5 video on youtube by default. Tails uses a greasemonkey
> script to achieve the same goal.
> There are many videos which are flash-only, mostly they seem to be the
> videos with ads injected into the video stream. I have seen some html5
> videos with advertising overlays, but the video plays fine in TBB and
> Tails.
Thanks for all replies.  It doesn't change the (sort of) tongue in cheek 
comment about being a brilliant move on Google's part.  ESPECIALLY  in 
light of Google's new (non) privacy policy, where they can / will / 
intend to? track users across all their services.  In & of itself this 
isn't * solely * related to html5 content, but it's certainly a big draw 
to get users to set Google cookies.

My question to those more knowledgeable about these cookies that google 
sets, & their NEW privacy policy, is how it affects Tor users?  Among 
other issues, once Google sets a cookie, I don't believe there'd be any 
difference in Tor / non Tor users, how Google is able to track you 
across their different sites / domains.  The only diff is they'd not see 
your real IP address.

Since "traffic analysis" seems to be a huge issue for Tor / Tor users, 
how is being able to track Tor users across multiple sites not an 
issue?  Seems it'd be fairly easy to use this to identify individuals, 
if someone wanted to.  Unless using settings / addons to prevent it, 
they will have a lot of info about you 

Users really need to read the ENTIRE Google privacy policy.  If not 
taking steps to prevent (Google) from gaining details about your 
machine, etc., even if users delete a cookie once they leave youtube, 
etc., then go to another google site that requires cookies, couldn't 
they probably identify the same computer?  Many Tor users will forget to 
del cookies, since TBB default settings are to accept cookies.

The bigger issue is, today it's Google doing this, tomorrow... who knows?

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