[tor-relays] Your opinion about tor-node.org

Martin Gebhardt martin at gebhardt.im
Tue Mar 1 23:57:26 UTC 2022


Hello all,

I don't know who of you is familiar with this, I just came across it a 
few weeks ago. It's about tor-node.org.

It is probably a person who collects funds for the operation of Tor 
infrastructure. Nothing wrong with that and I applaud that.

What you might find objectionable, but I don't, are the sponsors.They 
are marketplaces that make their money from drug dealing and other 
illegal sales.  I don't mind that, anything is better than buying your 
addictive substance from windy guys at the train station.

But what bothers me is the transparency. I also believe that using Tor 
is an act of anonymity. But running Tor infrastructure is an act of 
transparency. I am very interested in knowing who is working on our 
project.

Unfortunately, the operator can't come forward here either, because then 
his anonymity towards the marketplace scene would be over.


On the one hand, the operator justifiably wants to remain anonymous. 
Just to protect his sponsors. On the other hand, however, this leads to 
the fact that he can not reveal himself as an relay owner within the 
operators.

The operator can also not disclose to his sponsors what happens with 
their money. Because then the sponsors would know which relays are 
operated and then it is over with the anonymity.

Without wanting to imply it, I think that this can also simply be a 
fraud against the sponsors. I wouldn't care about that either. But I do 
not think that this is the case and assume that relays are operated.

What do you think about it? For me, it's a breach of the principle of 
transparency, which I'm sure most of you here agree with.

I would like to emphasize that I welcome every supporter of the network 
and I am glad about every single relay. But do we as a community welcome 
this kind of relay operators? Feel free to express your opinion.

--
Martin
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