[tor-relays] GoodBadISPs revamp?

jason at icetor.is jason at icetor.is
Mon Oct 13 01:25:42 UTC 2014

Perhaps instead of enumerating ISP's one by one the best way to figure
this out could be to partner with someone like the EFF. When the EFF had
the Tor Relay challenge it seemed very successful, perhaps there could
be a "Tor ISP Exit challenge" where the goal is to get as many
independant ISP organizations to commit to running 1 High speed Exit for
6-12 months ?
Obviously much harder to co-ordinate but might be the best way to
convince many ISP's all at once that running an exit is a feasible
option for their customers (plus good press).

On 10/13/2014 01:20 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 02:09:50AM +0100, Thomas White wrote:
>> Anyone with access to create a new page on the list and we can add
>> subsections to a new page containing the dated responses from each
>> company on their policy towards Tor hosting.
>> On 13/10/2014 01:56, subkeys at riseup.net wrote:
>>> should the community start a revamp project (or start a whole new
>>> list)? i'd be willing to donate my time to help get this started if
>>> need be.
> Sounds great, please do!
> Also, while we're on the topic of good interactions with ISPs, let me
> reiterate something I said back in November:
> """
> I worry about the "slash and burn agriculture" approach to running Tor
> relays, where you set up an exit relay, and if anybody gets angry you move
> on to another ISP. That approach is really appealing since it's simple,
> but it assumes the Internet is infinite. If in fact we're destroying
> land without regard to sustainability, and we run out of land...
> Today's interactions with ISPs influence Tor's future viability.
> """
> from
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-November/003240.html
> Thanks!
> --Roger
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