[tor-relays] exit and skype

Sebastian G. <bastik.tor> bastik.tor at googlemail.com
Sun Nov 10 08:27:41 UTC 2013

10.11.2013 07:56, gq:
> Dave,
> Unless I am mistaken, your non-exit relay never connects to a web page.
> Only exit relays do that, so it can't be your IP that is blocked but
> whatever exit relay you may be connecting through.

The original problem seemed to be that Skype rejects connection attempts
from exits. In the mentioned case someone tried to make a call from one
of the exits (the same machine with the same IP address) without using Tor.

Unless I am getting the reply you replied to wrong, the same may happen
when one runs a non-exit relay and tries to connect from the same
machine to a service that blocks the Tor network, whenever the traffic
comes form an exit or not. (One reason could be, not knowing that there
is a difference, or just to be sure there's no trouble, or that's just
the default [third-party]list they always use for blocking without
carrying what's on the list)

> On 11/9/2013 11:15 PM, David Carlson wrote:
>> On 11/9/2013 10:15 AM, Jon Gardner wrote:
>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Jan Hendrik den Besten
>>> <tor at janhendrik.eu> wrote:
>>>> Boy, now I am in trouble...
>>>> I run an exit node from my home address for a few weeks now, but my gf
>>>> starts complaining she cannot use Skype anymore to chat with her mum.
>>>> I understand Microsoft blocks all tor exits from accessing Skype. Is
>>>> there
>>>> anything I can do except converting the exit into a relay?
>>> As others mentioned, Jitsi is a great alternative, but to your
>>> question: If you want a happy gf, you'll need Skype, and the only
>>> sure fix is to convert to a non-exit. The Skype problems will
>>> magically disappear after a few days. Using a VPN *might* work, but
>>> Microsoft blocks access from many of those too.
>>> Complaining to Microsoft, especially if you're a paying Skype
>>> customer, might not help, but it can't hurt.
>>> Jon
>> Converting to a non-exit relay doesn't always help.  My non-exit IP
>> address is blocked by several internet commerce websites, probably
>> because it is still on the official Tor list.  Some webmasters do not
>> make any distinction between exit node versus non-exit node.  All Tor
>> relays are a threat to their website, as far as they are concerned.
>> They are willing to lose the revenue from such unsavory customers as we
>> must be.
>> David

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