[tor-relays] exit and skype

[Thomas Hand]

This is true. Some websites download lists of all relays and just mass
block the ips. Its usually webmasters who have no idea how tor works and
don't realise that a middle relay poses them no threat whatsoever. This is
why education is best. If someone is blocking your IP, just email them
explaining how tor works and try to convince them that your IP is no threat.
On Nov 10, 2013 8:27 AM, "Sebastian G. <bastik.tor>" <
bastik.tor at googlemail.com> wrote:

> 10.11.2013 07:56, gq:
> > Dave,
> >
> > Unless I am mistaken, your non-exit relay never connects to a web page.
> > Only exit relays do that, so it can't be your IP that is blocked but
> > whatever exit relay you may be connecting through.
>
> The original problem seemed to be that Skype rejects connection attempts
> from exits. In the mentioned case someone tried to make a call from one
> of the exits (the same machine with the same IP address) without using Tor.
>
> Unless I am getting the reply you replied to wrong, the same may happen
> when one runs a non-exit relay and tries to connect from the same
> machine to a service that blocks the Tor network, whenever the traffic
> comes form an exit or not. (One reason could be, not knowing that there
> is a difference, or just to be sure there's no trouble, or that's just
> the default [third-party]list they always use for blocking without
> carrying what's on the list)
>
> >
> > On 11/9/2013 11:15 PM, David Carlson wrote:
> >> On 11/9/2013 10:15 AM, Jon Gardner wrote:
> >>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Jan Hendrik den Besten
> >>> <tor at janhendrik.eu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Boy, now I am in trouble...
> >>>>
> >>>> I run an exit node from my home address for a few weeks now, but my gf
> >>>> starts complaining she cannot use Skype anymore to chat with her mum.
> >>>>
> >>>> I understand Microsoft blocks all tor exits from accessing Skype. Is
> >>>> there
> >>>> anything I can do except converting the exit into a relay?
> >>> As others mentioned, Jitsi is a great alternative, but to your
> >>> question: If you want a happy gf, you'll need Skype, and the only
> >>> sure fix is to convert to a non-exit. The Skype problems will
> >>> magically disappear after a few days. Using a VPN *might* work, but
> >>> Microsoft blocks access from many of those too.
> >>>
> >>> Complaining to Microsoft, especially if you're a paying Skype
> >>> customer, might not help, but it can't hurt.
> >>>
> >>> Jon
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Converting to a non-exit relay doesn't always help.  My non-exit IP
> >> address is blocked by several internet commerce websites, probably
> >> because it is still on the official Tor list.  Some webmasters do not
> >> make any distinction between exit node versus non-exit node.  All Tor
> >> relays are a threat to their website, as far as they are concerned.
> >> They are willing to lose the revenue from such unsavory customers as we
> >> must be.
> >>
> >> David
>
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