[tor-project] Amazon is killing domain fronting too

David Fifield david at bamsoftware.com
Wed May 2 03:55:07 UTC 2018

On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 03:40:44AM +0000, Yawning Angel wrote:
> I will emphasize (again, since I seem to recall doing so when Google
> originally stomped down on meek) that the collateral damage concept
> behind meek doesn't need to come from CDNs.
> Any entity that is willing to risk network operators going "it's
> unfortunate for the users, but too bad, example.com is getting blocked
> because it enables Tor" that has sufficient bandwidth can run a client
> facing endpoint.
> There isn't even particularly a need for the domain to be something
> clients contact extremely frequently (which is a property that made CDNs
> attractive in the first place), due to use cases involving using domain
> fronting as a signaling channel rather than a bulk transport mechanism.

That's a good point. Back in the day we were trying to get Wikimedia to
run https://en.wikipedia.org/meek or similar, but it never went

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