[ooni-dev] One of these people should be invited to the OONI meeting

Virgil Griffith i at virgil.gr
Sat Sep 12 11:59:44 UTC 2015

oh this is interesting, and news to me. i suspect there is much here i need
to learn.

however, if we reframe OONI's mission as "we're interested in certain kinds
of network outages", then OONI's goals become a strict superset of Atlas's

it seems we could at least get them on board for putting Atlas
probes/anchors next to major Tor relays. then if anything goes amiss not
only do we register it as a "censorship event", RIPE registers it as a
"network/connectivity degradation". And that latter point can only help


On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 19:20 <balooni at espiv.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> i at virgil.gr wrote:
> > http://atlas.ripe.net/
> >
> > The idea of putting their probes (or even anchors) next to Tor relays
> > and/or OONI probes seems an immensely good idea because doing this
> > will yoke the interests of generic network infrastructure people with
> > those of Tor and OONI.
> >
> > I'd be happy to bring them to the Tor meeting in Berlin, but they
> > seem a better fit for the OONI meeting in Italy.  So I'm inclined to
> > have you invite them.  Their community contacts are:
> > becha at ripe.net
> > mcb at ripe.net
> IIRC Ripe atlas would not like to be associated with
> neither Tor nor OONI. At some point they have explicitly mentioned
> that they would not like to be involved in any "conflict of interests"
> by their parent organization Ripe.
> I will be more than happy to find out that this is not the case anymore?
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