Re: [tor-relays] Well, what exactly are you trying to contribute with your efforts?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:49 PM Seby <seby2kt14@gmail.com> wrote:
Here we go again... This dude just won't stop harassing us with masked advertising, commercial offers and monetary asks. Every time even the most boring thing needs to be publicly shouted on these mail lists, every time he does something extraordinary, something quite unusual that none of you mortals could ever do like running a middle relay on a small virtual machine, or a 500KB/s bridge.
Actually, it's not masked advertising for commercial offers. It's nonprofit solicitation to assist other users that are interested in expanding Tor's FreeBSD Resiliency. There's quite a few people that would like to help but aren't comfortable making the plunge on their own. Increasing the number of FreeBSD machines ensures we don't have a single point of failure as the number of Linux machines presently on Tor greatly outweighs the number of FreeBSD machines on Tor. This was previously discussed, but I'm sure you weren't paying attention, but that's where the project started from and it was always a nonprofit project to begin with. In addition, we're now assisting with AS divestment as well, to try to get people off of highly populated ASes so those don't form single points of failure. Which is another goal of the Project, from what I have been told. I understand you may not get that, so I'll explain it as simply as possible - too many middle relays and exits are getting service from the same service providers. We are trying to help provide another Tor friendly service provider to the table (which runs separately from this since that's a commercial operation). When we had are stuff fully online, we occupied all 15 top spots of the highest bandwidth exits in Canada. Right now my highest performing exit in the US is in the Top 10 but I've been scaling that exit down as I'm not sure if I'm keeping my personal items online anymore at this point. Finally, the GreyPony project has been there to make it be able for an enduser be able to easily setup and get going on their first new relay with dedicated support, sometimes people want that extra hand. Before you trash a project before you should learn about it, but all you've been doing is trashing things. Maybe you should try contributing to something and ignoring things you disagree with or asking questions if you don't understand it, instead of just resorting to talking trash about a project. I just makes it look like you have plenty of free time to mock others because you aren't helping others, but that's my take on things. -- Conrad Rockenhaus https://www.rockenhaus.com Cell: (254) 292-3350 Fax: (254) 875-0459
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 4:58 AM I <beatthebastards@inbox.com> wrote:
It is a bit expensive if there's no profit.
That was the before, prior to my complete change to a 501(c)(3), now it's changed to a completely donation driven way of doing things. In order for people to get a clear idea of what they should donate what I'm doing is posting the invoices and a "total donated" hour glass type thing, just to keep things simple accounting wise and transparent, the way they should be. As people sign up I might establish tiers, but for now, it's just going to be completely open with the accounting and everything. -- Conrad Rockenhaus https://www.rockenhaus.com Cell: (254) 292-3350 Fax: (254) 875-0459
Conrad, why did you suddenly go underground and not be reachable anymore? Greypony IT was offline and you were just gone. I was a paying customer and my two servers were suddenly offline. now you come back and promise paradise again. No, i go my own way. Guys like you are not trustworthy. Olaf Am 28.04.19 um 10:34 schrieb Conrad Rockenhaus:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:49 PM Seby <seby2kt14@gmail.com> wrote:
Here we go again... This dude just won't stop harassing us with masked advertising, commercial offers and monetary asks. Every time even the most boring thing needs to be publicly shouted on these mail lists, every time he does something extraordinary, something quite unusual that none of you mortals could ever do like running a middle relay on a small virtual machine, or a 500KB/s bridge.
Actually, it's not masked advertising for commercial offers. It's nonprofit solicitation to assist other users that are interested in expanding Tor's FreeBSD Resiliency. There's quite a few people that would like to help but aren't comfortable making the plunge on their own. Increasing the number of FreeBSD machines ensures we don't have a single point of failure as the number of Linux machines presently on Tor greatly outweighs the number of FreeBSD machines on Tor.
This was previously discussed, but I'm sure you weren't paying attention, but that's where the project started from and it was always a nonprofit project to begin with.
In addition, we're now assisting with AS divestment as well, to try to get people off of highly populated ASes so those don't form single points of failure. Which is another goal of the Project, from what I have been told. I understand you may not get that, so I'll explain it as simply as possible - too many middle relays and exits are getting service from the same service providers. We are trying to help provide another Tor friendly service provider to the table (which runs separately from this since that's a commercial operation).
When we had are stuff fully online, we occupied all 15 top spots of the highest bandwidth exits in Canada. Right now my highest performing exit in the US is in the Top 10 but I've been scaling that exit down as I'm not sure if I'm keeping my personal items online anymore at this point.
Finally, the GreyPony project has been there to make it be able for an enduser be able to easily setup and get going on their first new relay with dedicated support, sometimes people want that extra hand.
Before you trash a project before you should learn about it, but all you've been doing is trashing things. Maybe you should try contributing to something and ignoring things you disagree with or asking questions if you don't understand it, instead of just resorting to talking trash about a project. I just makes it look like you have plenty of free time to mock others because you aren't helping others, but that's my take on things.
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 6:05 AM Olaf Grimm <jeep665@posteo.de> wrote:
Conrad, why did you suddenly go underground and not be reachable anymore? Greypony IT was offline and you were just gone. I was a paying customer and my two servers were suddenly offline.
now you come back and promise paradise again. No, i go my own way. Guys like you are not trustworthy.
Olaf
Am 28.04.19 um 10:34 schrieb Conrad Rockenhaus:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:49 PM Seby <seby2kt14@gmail.com> wrote:
Here we go again... This dude just won't stop harassing us with masked advertising, commercial offers and monetary asks. Every time even the most boring thing needs to be publicly shouted on these mail lists, every time he does something extraordinary, something quite unusual that none of you mortals could ever do like running a middle relay on a small virtual machine, or a 500KB/s bridge.
Actually, it's not masked advertising for commercial offers. It's nonprofit solicitation to assist other users that are interested in expanding Tor's FreeBSD Resiliency. There's quite a few people that would like to help but aren't comfortable making the plunge on their own. Increasing the number of FreeBSD machines ensures we don't have a single point of failure as the number of Linux machines presently on Tor greatly outweighs the number of FreeBSD machines on Tor.
This was previously discussed, but I'm sure you weren't paying attention, but that's where the project started from and it was always a nonprofit project to begin with.
In addition, we're now assisting with AS divestment as well, to try to get people off of highly populated ASes so those don't form single points of failure. Which is another goal of the Project, from what I have been told. I understand you may not get that, so I'll explain it as simply as possible - too many middle relays and exits are getting service from the same service providers. We are trying to help provide another Tor friendly service provider to the table (which runs separately from this since that's a commercial operation).
When we had are stuff fully online, we occupied all 15 top spots of the highest bandwidth exits in Canada. Right now my highest performing exit in the US is in the Top 10 but I've been scaling that exit down as I'm not sure if I'm keeping my personal items online anymore at this point.
Finally, the GreyPony project has been there to make it be able for an enduser be able to easily setup and get going on their first new relay with dedicated support, sometimes people want that extra hand.
Before you trash a project before you should learn about it, but all you've been doing is trashing things. Maybe you should try contributing to something and ignoring things you disagree with or asking questions if you don't understand it, instead of just resorting to talking trash about a project. I just makes it look like you have plenty of free time to mock others because you aren't helping others, but that's my take on things.
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