Good morning tierce, I suspect that the sites you're unable to access are using https://www.dan.me.uk/dnsbl or another blocklist provider that naively blocks middle relays and/or entry relays instead of/in addition to exit relays. If you don't want to or can't pay for third-party hosting to move your middle relay outside your network, one solution would be to contact your ISP and move from your single IP address to a block of five IP addresses, with one IP address dedicated to your middle relay and the other IP addresses dedicated to your browsing and other traffic needs. Make your day great, Isaac Grover, President/vCIO Aileron I.T. – “ Because #ProactiveIsBetter ” O: 715-377-0440, F:715-690-1029, W: www.aileronit.com  -----Original Message----- From: tor@computhings.be Hello, I'm located in Belgium. I keep two small middle relays (no exit, not even guard)… https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/89B4597169A9DBB171F0B4629C73C... https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/07E3A0DC6AD4A5F07D1AF942626EB... If I browse the web using a common browser using the basic services of the ISPs (no torbrowser, no tor network) and at least since may 2023, I've observed that some websites (banks, federal services,…) simply don't respond when I want to open their webpages. If I use another IP from the same locations (using vpn, ssh proxy, whatever), those same websites simply respond and works without issue. If I switch back to the local ISP IP, those are unreachable, and so on. If I contact those ISPs or the banks IT services, for them there are no problem. For me, it's clear that hosting simple middle relays puts my ISPs IPs to some black lists handled by who knows who. If hosting basic middle relays is blocking common web services, it will be hard / nearly impossible for me to encourage family, friends or customers to host a basic middle relays. Maybe there is no need for more and more middle relays, I don't know. Does someone encounter the same kind of annoyances ? regards, tierce ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list -- tor-relays@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to tor-relays-leave@lists.torproject.org ------------------------------ End of tor-relays Digest, Vol 167, Issue 13 *******************************************